Medal of Honor Gets Head Shot on PS3 Piracy

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People seem to forget that most hackers enjoy taking on every new challenge companies give them.
It's a safe bet that there are quite a few hackers who don't even care about the console/games they're cracking but do it just for fun.
The real pirates are just the dipshits who copy everything someone tells them to do on a forum.

OT: Quite the useless move, because pirates don't tend to play legally acquired games, so this is probably easily fixed by just cracking the game itself.

Coincidently a mate of mine offered to jailbreak my ps3 yesterday. Probably a good thing I turned him down by the looks of his article.

isn't the whole point of the jailbreaking your PS3 the ability to not have to pay for the new games because you're just pirating them.......
You can't force them to put the update on if their using a cracked copy of the game.

Now MP might be a different situation what with needing the latest patch to play online, but i still don't see how this idea is going to force anything.

so theres no usb use anymore?

i gotta just stick with it if i cant put my games data in a usb drive to prevent losing save data?

Loonerinoes:

*salutes as the eagles cry and the jet fighters zoom overhead, then pukes*

We'll see how long this lasts. It'd be nice if people did their own private rundowns on time/monetary costs that went into this piece of anti-piracy and then compare it to how long it took for it to get cracked. But I expect the standard round of self-fellatio of 'fighting the good fight' and 'proudly standing against the vile pirates' rather than an actual analysis of how reducing piracy (as opposed to 'fighting' it) in other ways might take place.

You're implying that "fighting the good fight" by using things like what Sony has done here and trying to reduce it in other ways (such as releasing a full game on Steam for 2-3 days completely free of charge and giving players the option to buy after the time is up) are mutually exclusive.

The simple fact of the matter is that piracy will always exist and it is a developer/manufacturers right and obligation to do everything in their power to stop it. Be it with DRM, reduced pricing, trial programs, or other methods.

That's all I was saying.

Sgt. Sykes:
So what about people who don't have their consoles online?

They're pirates because the only reason to not have PSN is to avoid anti piracy measures.

Just like a jailbreaked iPhone is obviously used for pirating instead of using any of the 2000 or so freeware apps that Apple hates on account of "free" not being an amount you can take a 35% cut from.

Honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if Jailbreak 2.0 has a way to disable this demand. So, as everyone else pointed out, it's a losing battle.

I've been waiting for a "Poison Pill" firmware update.
I'm surprised this didn't come up sooner.

It may be a losing battle, but hell, you gotta try and do something. Otherwise, why bother being in business? Besides, this is as good a reaction as any.

Sephychu:

KoreyGM:

Keava:
I see a funny trend in this whole Sony vs Piracy ongoing war. Whenever hacker's find a way into the console, Sony disables that feature in next firmware update, so each time it's not hacker's that suffer since all they get is a new challenge, but legitimate user's that loose functionality.
What if someone figures a way to jailbreak PS3 through the cable that connect's it to display ? Will they disable ability to plug to TV too?

I haven't noticed a lose of a single feature.

I quite like being able to move my save files from one PS3 to another. It means that when I play Metal Gear Solid at my mate's, I can take the save home on a USB stick, not lose any of the gameplay time spent on it. Now, no USB functionality. Hoo-bloody-ray.

Hackers will get around this in mere weeks, but we won't get our functionality back.
Hack proof software DOES NOT EXIST.

EDIT: My guitar Hero controllers use USB. How will they stop these being locked out? If there's a way, the hackers can start there. This is absurd. Either the hackers get a free way in or they're rendering popular third party hardware unusable.

Um my usb devices work just fine. Yep just plugged it in and started up a movie.

hmm makes sense to me. the last couple of times i bought a new for it i had to update to play. (note my PS3 is gathering dust atm).

Well hope they let you patch that patch manually for the 5 ppl that dont have their PS3 connected to the interweb. OR better yet, just put the patch into the disc :P

KoreyGM:

Sephychu:

KoreyGM:

Keava:
I see a funny trend in this whole Sony vs Piracy ongoing war. Whenever hacker's find a way into the console, Sony disables that feature in next firmware update, so each time it's not hacker's that suffer since all they get is a new challenge, but legitimate user's that loose functionality.
What if someone figures a way to jailbreak PS3 through the cable that connect's it to display ? Will they disable ability to plug to TV too?

I haven't noticed a lose of a single feature.

I quite like being able to move my save files from one PS3 to another. It means that when I play Metal Gear Solid at my mate's, I can take the save home on a USB stick, not lose any of the gameplay time spent on it. Now, no USB functionality. Hoo-bloody-ray.

Hackers will get around this in mere weeks, but we won't get our functionality back.
Hack proof software DOES NOT EXIST.

EDIT: My guitar Hero controllers use USB. How will they stop these being locked out? If there's a way, the hackers can start there. This is absurd. Either the hackers get a free way in or they're rendering popular third party hardware unusable.

Um my usb devices work just fine. Yep just plugged it in and started up a movie.

Baffled, I am. Why say that they're going to block USB then not do so?

Sephychu:

Baffled, I am. Why say that they're going to block USB then not do so?

They are not disabling USB entirely. You can still use official, Sony stamped gadgets and storage devices, however if you are unlucky sod that uses a third-party controller pad, or a converter to use PS2 pads then apparently you can't do so any longer.

Darkstar370:
Great! Another fun challenge for hackers.

Sony is fighting a losing war.

Their also getting lots of good publicity, decent amounts of gamer support (just look at the other comments), and are delaying piracy to some degree.

I don't know how much it costs them to make these updates, but its probably not much when you consider the benefits.

RaikuFA:
so theres no usb use anymore?

i gotta just stick with it if i cant put my games data in a usb drive to prevent losing save data?

think charging your controller. Done through USB right?

And it will take about 3 days for the next 'jailbreak' to overcome this patch...

But blocking the usb port... I hope that is a joke.

I'm kinda surprised that Sony don't just release a firmware upgrade that sniffs out a jailbroken PS3 and reports the PSN accounts associated with that machine. Don't diasble the machine, just rat out the users' IPs etc. Legal wranglings ensue.

Sephychu:

KoreyGM:

Sephychu:

KoreyGM:

Keava:
I see a funny trend in this whole Sony vs Piracy ongoing war. Whenever hacker's find a way into the console, Sony disables that feature in next firmware update, so each time it's not hacker's that suffer since all they get is a new challenge, but legitimate user's that loose functionality.
What if someone figures a way to jailbreak PS3 through the cable that connect's it to display ? Will they disable ability to plug to TV too?

I haven't noticed a lose of a single feature.

I quite like being able to move my save files from one PS3 to another. It means that when I play Metal Gear Solid at my mate's, I can take the save home on a USB stick, not lose any of the gameplay time spent on it. Now, no USB functionality. Hoo-bloody-ray.

Hackers will get around this in mere weeks, but we won't get our functionality back.
Hack proof software DOES NOT EXIST.

EDIT: My guitar Hero controllers use USB. How will they stop these being locked out? If there's a way, the hackers can start there. This is absurd. Either the hackers get a free way in or they're rendering popular third party hardware unusable.

Um my usb devices work just fine. Yep just plugged it in and started up a movie.

Baffled, I am. Why say that they're going to block USB then not do so?

As far as I know they never said they were, what I know they did is change the boot order to stop usb devices from loading pirated content.

An interesting way. I don't think offline players woudl be affected by this since most likely you'd need the latest firmware update to play online. If this was required regardless of whether you're online or not, that would be bullshit.

Also, where are people getting the idea that USB functionality is gone? It's working fine for me. It may block certain devices, which I think the main article should clarify on.

Overall, so long as regular, legitimate customers aren't royally fucked by Sony, whatever they can do to make prevent pirates is good on my book.

Pyode:

Darkstar370:
Great! Another fun challenge for hackers.

Sony is fighting a losing war.

Better to fight a loosing war than to bend over and let yourself get fucked.

I am totally going to use that sometime in a story or something, that's an epic quote. Swear, it sounds familiar...

okay for all those people going "Losing War" Let me actually explain how this works because you sound like someone rammed a six inch nail into your skull.

See, Hackers haven't cracked anything beyond the initial cracking, they can only hack a very specific firmware update and all updates after that have been blocked with no way for them to break it. So Sony already created an impass that prevents them from ever going online, using PSN, or updating firmware. Okay? that still hasn't been cracked because they removed the exploit.

Now try to wrap your heads around this because I know it can be difficult to think, but if games contain a firmware update on there disc/image and they say "To play this you must update" then how is that going to be cracked?

the game does not function without the appropriate Firmware, this isn't DRM levels "Just find the code to say "Oh yeah totally validated" this is "If your PS3 does not have this firmware, this game wont play" that is a lot tougher to crack.

And most importantly what you have failed to wrap your pretty little heads around is that this is NOT DRM, this is not malicious software being installed upon your console/computer that slows it down/monitors it constantly. A lot of games already have firmware updates pre-packaged because they need that firmware to run, It's simply becoming mandatory to include that firmware in all games.

Now take your same 3 arguments, go out to the store, buy a PS3 slim and use that one for all your legitimate gaming needs, and keep the other PS3 for all your totally not illegal homebrew.

I mean that is what your campaigning for right? the right to homebrew? surely your not having a bitch fest because the ability to pirate video games is being taken away?

Bobzer77:

smeghead25:

Dana22:
And so, consoles became PCs.

At least we don't have Windows.

At least we don't have XBL or PSN.

Let the flamewar begin.

Touche.

No I agree. XBL can go screw itself if it thinks I'm gonna shell out to play games online. And PSN is overpriced with not much content. I plan to give MOH a go on PSN but I know it won't hold me for long. I only play online through Steam, occasionally.

SpaceMedarotterX:
Snip

The PSP scene would like to have a word with you. You see, since time immemorial, PSP games have had this "feature," and basically, the update is contained in the disc. All you have to do is patch the game data to re-enable playability. The only time this doesn't work is when the game requires functionality not available for the update, but Sony hasn't actually added anything with their "updates" for a long time now. Also, this is DRM. However, it manages to avoid being utterly disgusting and offensive, so I could see how that could throw you.

However, this is hardly a smart move. Like the PSP, this will be cracked. All it does is split the PS3 user base. Instead of three groups ("color-in-the-lines" average consumer who only uses the console for what Sony allows; Homebrew advocates and hackers trying to see how far they can push the system; and finally pirates), Sony has lumped the second in with the third. If you want to have your homebrew, and play new games, now you must pirate them. That just seems dumb in my eyes. And who are you going to catch with this? Not savvy pirates (which most ps3 hackers are, because the scene is still in its infancy), hell, not even casual pirates, because you're moronically announcing this to the world. And who cares? From what I hear, MoH is a pretty mediocre game anyway.

Lacsapix:
well this is good new but Sony should really make some other updates like voice chat....

Why would they waste time making paying customers happy that they could be spending making non-paying customers unhappy?

KoreyGM:

Sephychu:

KoreyGM:

Sephychu:

KoreyGM:

Keava:
I see a funny trend in this whole Sony vs Piracy ongoing war. Whenever hacker's find a way into the console, Sony disables that feature in next firmware update, so each time it's not hacker's that suffer since all they get is a new challenge, but legitimate user's that loose functionality.
What if someone figures a way to jailbreak PS3 through the cable that connect's it to display ? Will they disable ability to plug to TV too?

I haven't noticed a lose of a single feature.

I quite like being able to move my save files from one PS3 to another. It means that when I play Metal Gear Solid at my mate's, I can take the save home on a USB stick, not lose any of the gameplay time spent on it. Now, no USB functionality. Hoo-bloody-ray.

Hackers will get around this in mere weeks, but we won't get our functionality back.
Hack proof software DOES NOT EXIST.

EDIT: My guitar Hero controllers use USB. How will they stop these being locked out? If there's a way, the hackers can start there. This is absurd. Either the hackers get a free way in or they're rendering popular third party hardware unusable.

Um my usb devices work just fine. Yep just plugged it in and started up a movie.

Baffled, I am. Why say that they're going to block USB then not do so?

As far as I know they never said they were, what I know they did is change the boot order to stop usb devices from loading pirated content.

Fair enough. Nice though that is, isn't the loophole that some peripherals use easily exploitable?

As long as it COMES with the firmware on the disc, I'm all for it. For those that don't have internet.

PSP had this too and it failed miserably. By the time the game came out, you could go off and upgrade your PSP to the new jailbroken firmware.

Pyode:

Darkstar370:
Great! Another fun challenge for hackers.

Sony is fighting a losing war.

Better to fight a loosing war than to bend over and let yourself get fucked.

Gee, where have I heard that logic before? Oh, right...

Shame nobody was going to play Medal Of Honour anyway.

People still play Medal of Honor?

Err. I mean, "Yay for piracy combat."

Zeekar:

Gee, where have I heard that logic before? Oh, right...

Nice job forcefully inserting your political view about Bush into a completely unrelated topic. We weren't talking about Bush here, we were talking about a company protecting themselves against a crime. Not only are they completely within their rights to do so, but are arguably obligated to do so.

P.S. You do realize this thread is from October right?

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