CD Projekt Plans to Make Witcher 2 Pirates Sorry

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CD Projekt Plans to Make Witcher 2 Pirates Sorry

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The studio behind Witcher 2 might have a relaxed policy on DRM, but that doesn't mean it's going easy on pirates.

CD Projekt revealed a ton of details on the future release of Witcher 2 last week, including the fact that it'll be released on the company's Good Old Games service with no DRM. However, CD Projekt wants those piratey types among us to know that this doesn't mean it should immediately be put up on a torrent website so that people can download it for free. If pirates decide to take such an action, the company might come banging on their doors.

CD Projekt recently told Eurogamer that the studio's anti-DRM stance doesn't mean it's pro-piracy. In fact, CD Projekt is planning to take Witcher 2 pirates down a few notches by preparing legal action for any it can catch. "Of course we're not happy when people are pirating our games, so we are signing with legal firms and torrent sneaking companies," CD Projekt co-founder Marcin Iwiński said. This means that CD Projekt plans to monitor illegal torrent downloads of Witcher 2 and fine those connected to it.

"In quite a few big countries, when people are downloading it illegally they can expect a letter from a legal firm saying, 'Hey, you downloaded it illegally and right now you have to pay a fine,'" Iwiński added. Thankfully, he understands that catching pirates in the act, even when their IP addresses are snatched from a torrent connection, isn't easy.

CD Projekt isn't going to go overboard here, but it wants to reasonably make the attempt to deter as many pirates as it can. "I'm sure you've heard about stories in the US when recording companies were chasing people," he continued. "We don't want to be so harsh, but there is a chance that this might happen to some people if they download illegally. There will be an initiative."

Iwiński said that he believes "it is important that games companies use robust evidence gathering and legal processes to avoid encountering some of the bad PR which has resulted from litigation against innocent consumers elsewhere." In his view, "the whole point of these measures is that they should have a nil effect on legitimate games purchases but a strong negative effect on illegal downloads."

I think CD Projekt has the right state of mind here. Recklessly suing alleged pirates whom potentially could be innocent, like other industries have done in the past, only creates bad publicity and arguably increases the desire that many people might have to engage in piracy. Making sure that pirates are caught red handed, and sending out a letter or perhaps a fine, still works to deter illegal downloads, while nobody can argue that a company is overstepping their bounds by doing so. Also saying "hey, we're watching" doesn't hurt either. Piracy has existed since we drove boats everywhere, and will continue to exist in its modern forms, but it's still worthwhile to make the effort to ensure that people know piracy is illegal, and that somebody could be watching.

Source: Eurogamer

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<cue nonsensical Big Brother silliness>

Plenty of companies say they are watching. But they rarely do anything.

Hopefully CD Projekt Red follows through. It would be hilarious.

I actually hope we see an army of baliffs leaving the headquarters of these guys. Because its going to fuel my schadenfreude to see them huckled off to jail while I do other less-than-legal things and remain unapprehended.

Honestly, this is the best way to go when dealing with piracy. DRM just annoys people who buy the game, and pirates get to play it offline anyway.

Hmm. No DRM, but a legal team of kneebreakers on standby to unleash on any pirate they track down. I like this strategy. Shame they can't be real kneebreakers. That'd be awesome.

They lied about the TWEE DRM, have they given any indication whatsoever that they won't do that again?

Well done CD Projekt i will now buy The Witcher 2, a game i am not interested in, just because you actually cares for the costumers.

If their plan works and they catch someone, I approve.
Scaring the shit out of people is definitely an effective teaching tool.

It would be funny if the fine costs the exact price of the game, plus tax.

Irridium:
Plenty of companies say they are watching. But they rarely do anything.

Hopefully CD Projekt Red follows through. It would be hilarious.

Sometimes other companies have followed through. One of my friends was tracked down by Crytek for pirating Crysis (we're in Canada, so they couldn't fine him, but he got in MAJOR TROUBLE with his parents).

CD Projekt are awesome. No DRM and legal action against pirates are way better than anything others have tried.

They said that they would have DRM for The Witcher: Enhanced Edition. They did not.
They said they would have a console version for The Witcher. They did not.
You can talk the talk but if you don't prove yourself you'll just look stupid.

Sue 'em all. They all likely deserve it, anyway.

The higher the dog bark the less it´s bite.

When does everyone accept the only way forth is cheap digital distribution.

Asehujiko:
They lied about the TWEE DRM, have they given any indication whatsoever that they won't do that again?

For the umpteeth time, they haven't promised no DRM in the retail versions of the game, only the GOG version.

Wait, a AAA title, PC exclusive sequel to a PC exclusive, and it has not DRM but guys on standby waiting to bust some pirate ass? I like it. Wish more companies would take this approach. If nothing else, it gives us a reason to laugh at the pirates together as developer and loyal consumer.

Well, since it's my country's awesome company, I have not pirated a game from them and played for more than an hour or so. Just because it was awesome and worth money, even games they brought from giants like Blizzard or Interplay.

Witcher, the first edition box, is proudly shining on my shelf.

Excellent. Hang 'em.

feather240:
It would be funny if the fine costs the exact price of the game, plus tax.

No the fine must be, game price+ tax+ 10% of total income that the game has made this far+ 50,000 of your local money and all this times two.
/Sarcasm

Yeah, but I agree. If you get fined for piracy it should be game price+ your local ticket fee.
So... In Finland If I would be caught by this system (assuming Fine is game price + local ticket fee), I would get fine ~50euros + 32euros = 82 euros, which sounds decent compared to twentythousandmillionhundredtwentysictymilliontwo euros.

Won't prevent piracy in the slightest, but I've got to give props where they're due. Keep on truckin', CD Projekt.

The first Witcher was awesome, and I have high hopes for this one. I'm definitely buying - once the price in stores comes down a little... I'm such a Scrooge. :'(

I like that. The paying customer gets his game with no bullshit, and the thief gets to pay a fine that is hopefully a lot more than the price of the game if the get caught. I just hope they catch a lot of them and follow up on these threats.

SinisterGehe:

feather240:
It would be funny if the fine costs the exact price of the game, plus tax.

No the fine must be, game price+ tax+ 10% of total income that the game has made this far+ 50,000 of your local money and all this times two.
/Sarcasm

Yeah, but I agree. If you get fined for piracy it should be game price+ your local ticket fee.
So... In Finland If I would be caught by this system (assuming Fine is game price + local ticket fee), I would get fine ~50euros + 32euros = 82 euros, which sounds decent compared to twentythousandmillionhundredtwentysictymilliontwo euros.

No it shouldn't be the cost of the game, but it shouldn't be something insane that no one can pay either. It should be something like three times the cost of the game. If it's just the cost of the game there is really no deterrent for them not to try again, but if they have to pay more, maybe next time they will think "Maybe I should just buy this game for the regular price and not risk paying three times as much if they catch me."

The Witcher 2 deserves success, so I am fully behind them here.

They really think this'll help prevent or stop piracy, or deter people from pirating the game?

Dumber than a bag o' bricks...

I wonder what happens if you have a legal copy at home, but you just went on and played the downloaded torrent for whatever reason.

Irridium:
Plenty of companies say they are watching. But they rarely do anything.

Hopefully CD Projekt Red follows through. It would be hilarious.

Let's pray they don't... for their own sake.

lacktheknack:

Irridium:
Plenty of companies say they are watching. But they rarely do anything.

Hopefully CD Projekt Red follows through. It would be hilarious.

Sometimes other companies have followed through. One of my friends was tracked down by Crytek for pirating Crysis (we're in Canada, so they couldn't fine him, but he got in MAJOR TROUBLE with his parents).

See, hilarious!

Gindil:

Irridium:
Plenty of companies say they are watching. But they rarely do anything.

Hopefully CD Projekt Red follows through. It would be hilarious.

Let's pray they don't... for their own sake.

They're not going to blindly sue thousands of people though. They said they would watch and try to catch the pirates in the act of downloading.

I'm guessing the game is at least 10gb. And I don't care what kind of connection you have, downloading that much, and maybe more, takes a long-ass time. Meaning you'll be exposed longer.

Again we'll see how well it works when they actually try it, but it won't be as bad as the story you linked to.

Danish rage:
The higher the dog bark the less it´s bite.

When does everyone accept the only way forth is cheap digital distribution.

When it becomes true.

Sadly, making a less pricey product doesn't decrease piracy significantly.

Zachary Amaranth:

Danish rage:
The higher the dog bark the less it´s bite.

When does everyone accept the only way forth is cheap digital distribution.

When it becomes true.

Sadly, making a less pricey product doesn't decrease piracy significantly.

well then, fell free to suggest ANYthing?

you say the idea wont work, but what does then? you seem to have some answers ?

Cool idea. but who's ready for the most downloaded game ever?

Danish rage:

well then, fell free to suggest ANYthing?

you say the idea wont work, but what does then? you seem to have some answers ?

Or, you know, I was just pointing out a logical fallacy.

I don't have to have a solution to know that your idea is ridiculous, in the same way I don't have to know how to perform neurosurgery to understand shoving lit firecrackers up someone's nose isn't a proper way to handle a tumour.

So...Are we done with the attempted false dichotomy here, or...?

mannaroth:
Cool idea. but who's ready for the most downloaded game ever?

Starcraft 2?

Zachary Amaranth:

mannaroth:
Cool idea. but who's ready for the most downloaded game ever?

Starcraft 2?

that is most downloaded via Torrents, not nessacery most download of all time, but probably is.

What are the chances you get caught...
1 in 10000000?
seriously...
tracking one guy is hard enough.

May someone please explain to me what DRM is so that I can truly appreciate this article.

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