Witcher 2 Studio Approaching Consoles With "Caution"

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Witcher 2 Studio Approaching Consoles With "Caution"

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CD Projekt says The Witcher 2 is "doable" on consoles thanks to the multi-platform technology at use in the new game engine, but the studio is taking a cautious approach because it's never actually made a console game before.

There's been a lot of talk about bringing The Witcher 2 to consoles. A console version of the original game, entitled Rise of the White Wolf, was in the works but ground to a halt in April 2009. The lack of a comparably deep, gritty RPG setting has kept interest in a console version of the sequel running high but while CD Projekt has said in the past that it could happen, there are also a good number of reasons why it might not.

Technologically, the new engine is quite capable of running with the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, according to senior producer Tomasz Gop. "We're doing everything we can to make sure one day The Witcher 2 will be released on the current generation of consoles," he told Eurogamer. "We already have performed a lot of tests. We're doing a reality check every half a year or so. We take a level from the game and we try to put it inside our engine, because it's console capable on Xbox 360 and PS3."

Gop said that if a console version of the game is made, it would be out within "a matter of months" of the PC release. But the focus right now is solely on the PC and he "strongly encouraged" gamers to opt for that version, even if they own a console. He also cited "time, people and money" as the big limitations on the development of console versions of the game, along with the fact that CD Projekt doesn't want to rush headlong into unfamiliar territory.

"We have not released any console games yet," he added. "That's why we're approaching this topic with even more caution."

Despite the hesitation, CD Projekt CEO Marcin Iwinski echoed Gop's remark that a lot of gamers don't play on PCs anymore. "We know how many players, especially in the U.K. as well as in the U.S., play on Xbox 360," he said. "We are pretty good at maths."

The Witcher 2 is slated for release on May 17, 2011.

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So they're approaching this logically?

Good. If they do make a console version, hopefully it'll be a great port instead of a crappy port.

Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

I do hope that means that all the quick-time events I've seen so far in the demos are intended for the console version.
I hate quick-time events, they are mock-gameplay.

"Despite the hesitation, CD Projekt CEO Marcin Iwinski echoed Gop's remark that a lot of gamers don't play on PCs anymore."

I assuming he's mainly talking about Western Europe and the States, because from my understanding the platform is huge in Eastern Europe as well as South Korea (although I'm not sure how much other than Starcraft gets through).

It's obvious that they're making a console version. While their main, "honor" target is PC, they surely count on the revenue from console version.

"We are pretty good at maths."

This made me laugh for some reason
OT:I really don't think that the Witcher will be that successful on the consoles.

Woodsey:
"Despite the hesitation, CD Projekt CEO Marcin Iwinski echoed Gop's remark that a lot of gamers don't play on PCs anymore."

I assuming he's mainly talking about Western Europe and the States, because from my understanding the platform is huge in Eastern Europe as well as South Korea (although I'm not sure how much other than Starcraft gets through).

It's more like the US, UK and Australia. In some western European countries, like France and Germany, the PC is still very much a relevant platform. It goes without saying that the PC is an important platform in Eastern Europe and South Korea (in Korea, console gaming is an exception rather than the norm).

YES! YES!

Developers are collectively waking up. This console cycle needs to end.

I actually applaud CD Projekt for this approach. It shows that they really are dedicated to bringing out a game that works really well and that people will be happy with, instead of succumbing to the mad pressure to get it out on console to make more money without caring about making sure the game is as good on console as it is on PC. Too many developers and publishers nowadays just care about the money, and not the games, so it's refreshing to see a developer already known for good games keeping their priorities straight in this modern age of gaming.

The Witcher is one of many games I would love to play, though I can't buy it now because my CD drive has broken on my laptop (I really should get it fixed but the last time I sent my laptop away for repairs, for a damaged keyboard, it cost over £60 and took more than two weeks to fix, and I don't want to be without my laptop or money for so long again if it's not important). Either way, I'm certainly looking forward to the release of The Witcher 2 (and hopefully by then my laptop will be fixed and I'll have actually played the first game :P).

I'm impressed by their attitude, obviously they want the additional sales that a console port would bring but they're not willing to abandon quality, as many other developers would, to do it.

I hope they dont push the release date of the PC version back just to get a console version out.

Irridium:
So they're approaching this logically?

Good. If they do make a console version, hopefully it'll be a great port instead of a crappy port.

Better a crappy port than no port at all though right?

My only question is whether or not we will have needed to have played the first one to understand the story in this one?

I can't see the Witcher 2's combat system be doable using a console controller. It will end up feeling restricted, just like it did in Dragon Age: Origins. Still, as long as they can pull it off without sacrificing the quality of the PC release then by all means, go for it. Just don't expect a game mainly known to PC gamers to succeed on the consoles without Activision's whole marketing department backing you up.

Will turn out like the Elder Scrolls.

Morrowind was ported (badly) to the XBOX, still according to Bethesda it sold more on XBOX than on PC and so Oblivion was designed for the 360 and then ported to the PC (with the console menu's intact).

So, Witcher 2 may be the Morrowind and Witcher 3 may be designed from the ground up for consoles.

I'm glad they're using their brains and not their wallets.

TBH I see it pretty hard to make the game work in a console controller, but IF they kinda figure it out, then it's gonna give Fable and many other console RPGs a run for their money.

THIS is a true RPG and I can't wait for it to release (I simply love the release date, one day before my B-Day).

Trivun:
The Witcher is one of many games I would love to play, though I can't buy it now because my CD drive has broken on my laptop (I really should get it fixed but the last time I sent my laptop away for repairs, for a damaged keyboard, it cost over £60 and took more than two weeks to fix, and I don't want to be without my laptop or money for so long again if it's not important). Either way, I'm certainly looking forward to the release of The Witcher 2 (and hopefully by then my laptop will be fixed and I'll have actually played the first game :P).

If that's your only concern, you can buy the game from Steam and download it directly to your drive, unless you're afraid/against digital distribution.

BreakfastMan:
Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

Trivun:

The Witcher is one of many games I would love to play, though I can't buy it now because my CD drive has broken on my laptop (I really should get it fixed but the last time I sent my laptop away for repairs, for a damaged keyboard, it cost over £60 and took more than two weeks to fix, and I don't want to be without my laptop or money for so long again if it's not important). Either way, I'm certainly looking forward to the release of The Witcher 2 (and hopefully by then my laptop will be fixed and I'll have actually played the first game :P).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/20900

I love these guys. GOG, fixing and upgrading the first Witcher (For free), not sacrificing quality for profit... They're just awesome.

Garak73:
Will turn out like the Elder Scrolls.

Morrowind was ported (badly) to the XBOX, still according to Bethesda it sold more on XBOX than on PC and so Oblivion was designed for the 360 and then ported to the PC (with the console menu's intact).

So, Witcher 2 may be the Morrowind and Witcher 3 may be designed from the ground up for consoles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

Stubee:

Irridium:
So they're approaching this logically?

Good. If they do make a console version, hopefully it'll be a great port instead of a crappy port.

Better a crappy port than no port at all though right?

My only question is whether or not we will have needed to have played the first one to understand the story in this one?

I thought a bad port would be better then no port. Then I tried GTA IV and Saint's Row 2 on the PC.

My god they were just abysmal.

And from what I understand, no you won't need to know the story of the first. There's most likely going to be a few references, but I doubt it'll be anything major.

I am glad they are doing it carefully. I will wait for the console release, my current rig won't pull this game off on a high setting.

Lets hope it goes well!

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Take two

The way the witcher is if they don't release the first why bother with the second. To me it seems like releasing ch 1 in only one language and ch 2 in many. Most will shrug it off not having played the first. More so with story driven games like the witcher.

Sneaklemming:

BreakfastMan:
Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

I cannot speak for other console players, but for me it is simply too expensive to upgrade my computer (yes I know it can only take 200-300 US dollars, but that is 200-300$ I do not have! Not to mention I could use that same money to buy more games for my consoles) and the P.C. is an inconvenient platform for me to play games on (the only computer that can really play any games is the family computer and considering this is the Witcher we are talking about... yeah).

BreakfastMan:

Sneaklemming:

BreakfastMan:
Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

I cannot speak for other console players, but for me it is simply too expensive to upgrade my computer (yes I know it can only take 200-300 US dollars, but that is 200-300$ I do not have! Not to mention I could use that same money to buy more games for my consoles) and the P.C. is an inconvenient platform for me to play games on (the only computer that can really play any games is the family computer and considering this is the Witcher we are talking about... yeah).

I agree, I only have a notebook and a laptop, which means I only really game old rpg's like Daggerfall or similarly non-high end PC games like Minecraft or Runescape, everything remotely approaching modern standards will be bought for my 360. If The Witcher comes to the consoles I will buy it instantly.

First Witcher wasn't even advertized much and it sold over 2 million copies on PC. I'm sure The Witcher 2 will be even more successful and even without a console version. But if they want to make a console version later on so what? As long as they don't make it at t he same time because that would mean ruining either PC or console version.

Sneaklemming:

BreakfastMan:
Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

One thing that really annoys me about the console market is that since the hardware is locked in for multi-year cycles, it really stifles how hard developers are willing to push hardware when they are targeting multi-platform releases.

Does anyone else remember back when it felt like developers were constantly trying to rape your visual cortex every year with better and better graphics? Sure this facilitated a lot of video card upgrades on my part, but there was a definite feeling that the games were getting more and more immerse and better. To me, it just seems that most things look the same, which is odd considering we've got like 6 core CPUS's and 2 GB video cards and all this other flash stuff floating around for next to nothing these days.

Maybe it's just nostalgia on my part, but a lot of the games I've played recently just feel like developers are recycling the same models, physics and textures from the last 3 years...

I truly hope this succeeds on the console platform. They're really hurting for some hack-n-slash, hardcore RPG action with a mature tone.

Was hoping for Rise of the White Wolf to come, but if this can get off the ground first... whatever works and works well, I say.

Sneaklemming:

BreakfastMan:
Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

Because PCs are expensive to upgrade/ I had to spend $100 on a video card to play The Witcher, still had to run it on medium settings. I'm not spending hundreds of dollars every couple of years to play 3-4 games. Until PC developers realize that not everyone has a gaming rig set up, PC will continue to the platform that gets no major attention aside form Steam and major releases.

Jake Martinez:

Sneaklemming:

BreakfastMan:
Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

One thing that really annoys me about the console market is that since the hardware is locked in for multi-year cycles, it really stifles how hard developers are willing to push hardware when they are targeting multi-platform releases.

Does anyone else remember back when it felt like developers were constantly trying to rape your visual cortex every year with better and better graphics? Sure this facilitated a lot of video card upgrades on my part, but there was a definite feeling that the games were getting more and more immerse and better. To me, it just seems that most things look the same, which is odd considering we've got like 6 core CPUS's and 2 GB video cards and all this other flash stuff floating around for next to nothing these days.

Maybe it's just nostalgia on my part, but a lot of the games I've played recently just feel like developers are recycling the same models, physics and textures from the last 3 years...

Its not nostalgia.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/11/25/crytek-say-%E2%80%9Cpc-is-easily-a-generation-ahead-being-held-back-by-consoles/

The only positive I feel, is that it's given people a chance to catch up. (Hardware wise)

AzrealMaximillion:

Sneaklemming:

BreakfastMan:
Yes! Please bring Witcher 2 to consoles! And resurrect Rise of the White Wolf while you are at it!

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

Because PCs are expensive to upgrade/ I had to spend $100 on a video card to play The Witcher, still had to run it on medium settings. I'm not spending hundreds of dollars every couple of years to play 3-4 games. Until PC developers realize that not everyone has a gaming rig set up, PC will continue to the platform that gets no major attention aside form Steam and major releases.

You make it sound like it's a desolate desert and famine of games on PC. We get all the homegrown stuff, mods and indie games (usually for free) - we any decent game that a console gets (aside from the exclusive stuff - which is only because of marketing). So I don't know what you mean by "major release". We don't get "generic japaneese 3rd person action adventure 4" ...but really? Isn't it better to have the shovelware filtered out for you? Generally speak most of the "major releases" have their best version on PC (see Fallout 3/New Vegas) and thats before the mod community get's their hands all dirty =D

edit: I should add as a disclaimer - we don't have any Wii games on PC. Maybe thats what you were referring to...

Sneaklemming:

AzrealMaximillion:

Sneaklemming:

Why don't the console people just buy it for PC... It's not like you don't have one - and the chances are if you do have one, and bought it in the last half-decade you'll be able to play witcher 1... maybe witcher 2... depends how optimised it is really.

Remember folks... you can usually drag down the graphics to sub-xbox levels on a PC if you have an old one.

Because PCs are expensive to upgrade/ I had to spend $100 on a video card to play The Witcher, still had to run it on medium settings. I'm not spending hundreds of dollars every couple of years to play 3-4 games. Until PC developers realize that not everyone has a gaming rig set up, PC will continue to the platform that gets no major attention aside form Steam and major releases.

You make it sound like it's a desolate desert and famine of games on PC. We get all the homegrown stuff, mods and indie games (usually for free) - we any decent game that a console gets (aside from the exclusive stuff - which is only because of marketing). So I don't know what you mean by "major release". We don't get "generic japaneese 3rd person action adventure 4" ...but really? Isn't it better to have the shovelware filtered out for you? Generally speak most of the "major releases" have their best version on PC (see Fallout 3/New Vegas) and thats before the mod community get's their hands all dirty =D

edit: I should add as a disclaimer - we don't have any Wii games on PC. Maybe thats what you were referring to...

I obviously know that there is no famine of PC games, but I don't find it worth my money to upgrade my PC every two years because a game it coming for it. PC can have all the free mods in the world, but if I have to spend more then the game it worth just to run it, it's not worth it to me. And what I mean by major release is something that actually gets attention, like Crysis 2, or S.T.A.L.K.E.R.2. Yes PC players get the best version of New Vegas, but right now, it's still one of the buggiest games out there. PC also got the worst versions of GTA 4 and Streer Fighter 4, so not all ports are great.

AzrealMaximillion:

Sneaklemming:

AzrealMaximillion:
Because PCs are expensive to upgrade/ I had to spend $100 on a video card to play The Witcher, still had to run it on medium settings. I'm not spending hundreds of dollars every couple of years to play 3-4 games. Until PC developers realize that not everyone has a gaming rig set up, PC will continue to the platform that gets no major attention aside form Steam and major releases.

You make it sound like it's a desolate desert and famine of games on PC. We get all the homegrown stuff, mods and indie games (usually for free) - we any decent game that a console gets (aside from the exclusive stuff - which is only because of marketing). So I don't know what you mean by "major release". We don't get "generic japaneese 3rd person action adventure 4" ...but really? Isn't it better to have the shovelware filtered out for you? Generally speak most of the "major releases" have their best version on PC (see Fallout 3/New Vegas) and thats before the mod community get's their hands all dirty =D

edit: I should add as a disclaimer - we don't have any Wii games on PC. Maybe thats what you were referring to...

I obviously know that there is no famine of PC games, but I don't find it worth my money to upgrade my PC every two years because a game it coming for it. PC can have all the free mods in the world, but if I have to spend more then the game it worth just to run it, it's not worth it to me. And what I mean by major release is something that actually gets attention, like Crysis 2, or S.T.A.L.K.E.R.2. Yes PC players get the best version of New Vegas, but right now, it's still one of the buggiest games out there. PC also got the worst versions of GTA 4 and Streer Fighter 4, so not all ports are great.

The pace has slowed alot nowadays (in terms of upgrading) I'm on a 4 year old laptop and I'm only just about hitting games that I have graphics issues with.

I'm not sure about GTA4, but yeh street fighter isn't great on PC unless you have a controller. The keyboard is not suited to fighting or driving games.

I want The Witcher 2 so bad it hurts!

Apparently The Witcher 2 is a lot more action orientated IE: The combat isn't shit. So it may also work better on the consoles.

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