Bavaria Rejects Dead Space 2 Rating

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Bavaria Rejects Dead Space 2 Rating

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The German state of Bavaria has rejected the USK rating of R18+ for Dead Space 2 on the PSP, meaning the game must be examined for the sixth time before it can be cleared for sale in the country.

Germany is notoriously strict with videogame ratings. Games like Call of Duty: Black Ops and Diablo 3 both had to be censored to accommodate the country's game rating agency, Crytek has threatened to pull out of the country more than once and Ubisoft didn't even bother releasing the 2010 edition of Aliens vs. Predator in the country. The latest game to fall afoul of those regulations is Dead Space 2, specifically the PSP version, which has had its USK rating vetoed by the Bavarian government.

The translated report on the German site PC Games is a bit tough to put together but it appears that the Bavarian Ministry of Social Services gave Dead Space 2 on the PSP the thumbs down, overriding the ruling of the USK. No specific reason for the rejection was given, although the report notes that a previous test version of the game was turned down because players could injure each other with friendly fire in the multiplayer mode; the German version of the game will apparently have friendly fire removed.

EA is none too happy with the decision, pointing out that the game has already been tested five separate times by the USK and calling on the government to end the process and accept the verdict of experts. The publisher has also put up a petition calling on gamers to express their opinions and support the release of the game.

Dead Space 2 is slated for release on January 25 for the PC, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PSP.

via: GamePolitics

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Seriously? If I was them, I'd just tell Germany to screw off and stop releasing violent games there.

This is what people like Micheal Atkinson DREAM about.

We need to put a f*cking stop to this crap.

Asuka Soryu:
Seriously? If I was them, I'd just tell Germany to screw off and stop releasing violent games there.

Or stop selling to them altogether...

You Bavarians and your old Bavarian ways I have never heard of until I googled it 3 minutes ago.

Realy? I mean come on, get that stick out of your ass. Maybe I could understand the console versions, but the portable version? Really?

On another note, what the hell? When did they announce a PSP version? That threw me off the most when I opened this article. I don't think i should have any high expectations for it, doesn't look like the kind of game that could survive the potable transition.

Well there are some kills in Dead Space that are actually pretty nasty... but certainly not worth a ban.

And I doubt even more that you could actually see the kills on a PSP... or that they could even render stuff like that. And I had no idea there would be a PSP version...

This is actually one of the more reasonable cases of censorship.
Even games like Team Fortress 2 or Counter Strike Source are censored in Germany. I even had to import Goldeneye 64 (yes, an N64 game!), because it was never released in Germany.

It's madness. We are allowed to drive 250km/h on the motorway, prostitution is legal, drinking age is 16, but adults are not allowed to play video games.

I'd have told them to bugger off after the second denial. It's high time to just stop selling games there. If the fans want it, they'll import it.

People who are saying that they should stop releasing (violent) games in Germany should consider that Germany has a population of over 80 million. That is a huge market. That would be like cutting off over a quarter of the United States.

I don't really understand how the German/Bavarian government can reject a game that has already been given an 18+ rating. Above 18, everybody should be able to decide whether they want to play it for themselves. And what do they expect to gain from examining it yet again? Is there an even higher rating? And what is so offensive about friendly fire anyway?

Andy Chalk:
Bavaria Rejects Dead Space 2 Rating

was turned down because players could injure each other with friendly fire in the multiplayer mode; the German version of the game will apparently have friendly fire removed.

Wait, is that a rule for every game in Germany?

Friendly fire? That is what caused this? What kind of idiots run the Bavarian government?

Behold, the Grinch.

Huh, and people say America is close-minded and idiotic. *shakes head*

Friendly fire? Seriously? What the shit!?

AroLombardi:

Asuka Soryu:
Seriously? If I was them, I'd just tell Germany to screw off and stop releasing violent games there.

Or stop selling to them altogether...

I was going to say that.

They're in arms about friendly fire being on. So shooting alien infected babies is fine, but shooting what looks like a robot isn't? Ratings boards confuse me...

Jordi:
I don't really understand how the German/Bavarian government can reject a game that has already been given an 18+ rating. Above 18, everybody should be able to decide whether they want to play it for themselves. And what do they expect to gain from examining it yet again? Is there an even higher rating? And what is so offensive about friendly fire anyway?

I'm not sure, it may be the difference between a suggestion and law, or between rating and ban or something.

And I'm guessing the problem with friendly fire is the liberal dismemberment that comes with Dead Space + actual human characters rather than necromorphs.

Wait a sec, Germany is up in arms about a violent game, .......well at least it's not Austrailia

matrix3509:
Huh, and people say America is close-minded and idiotic. *shakes head*

It's a human thing, countries matter not. To try and point out that a country itself is close-minded is an act of close-mindedness.

Not that you were doing that, but I think 'those types' of people forget we are, kinda all, only human.

They think R18+ is too light because of Friendly Fire? They must hate Left 4 Dead and other multiplayer shooters.
Frankly I would say don't bother selling any more games in Germany but that country does have a strong gamer base. Maybe it is about time those German gamers got off their butts and told Bavaria where they could stick their prudishness after folding it down into very sharp corners.

Yeah, my country is kinda full of shit when it comes to that.
Tax money well spent.
I don't even know who is to be "protected" by this.
It just pisses everyone off and the retarded offspring plays manhunt and watches hardcore porn anyway.

Also don't even try to make sense of this and why friendly fire is a factor. There is none to be found.
It is completely based on subjectivity aka utterly arbitrary.

That's the kind of (abuse of) power that gives California wet dreams.

The handheld version? -finger in collar- better now show them the console version apparently being 18 in Germany still isn't old enough to play big kid games

Haha, rating boards and game ratings I understand. That makes sense, just so the consumer knows what they are buying for themselves or their kids. But to have an 18+ rating, and then deny the game for gore, friendly fire, whatever the exact reason, that is going too far. That is what America has to look forward to if people don't start nipping censorship in the bud.

mjc0961:
That's the kind of (abuse of) power that gives California wet dreams.

California and most of the federal government I presume.

9_6:
Yeah, my country is kinda full of shit when it comes to that.
Tax money well spent.
I don't even know who is to be "protected" by this.
It just pisses everyone off and the retarded offspring plays manhunt and watches hardcore porn anyway.

Also don't even try to make sense of this and why friendly fire is a factor. There is none to be found.
It is completely based on subjectivity aka utterly arbitrary.

I find that most censorship is completely arbitrary. This is what happens when people are allowed to tell other people what to do. It's never enough that the non-interested parties simply abstain from seeing or using the offending items, they have to block others for it as well.

One question though, this can't stop people from buying like an American version of the game can it?

Rainboq:
This is what people like Micheal Atkinson DREAM about.

We need to put a f*cking stop to this crap.

I'm sure he's got a big grin on his face while reading this article while laying on a lawn chair somewhere. Cocky even when his time has come to an end.

Baresark:
One question though, this can't stop people from buying like an American version of the game can it?

Nope but there are still region locks and shit on consoles you have to pay more money for.
Steam gifting ftw.

Andy Chalk:
previous test version of the game was turned down because players could injure each other with friendly fire in the multiplayer mode; the German version of the game will apparently have friendly fire removed.

Wow. I feel sorry for people stuck in countries with backwards systems like these. An idea though, we could get all the most controversial developers together to make a game so horrifically shocking that it kills the oversensitive old bastards making these ridiculous decisions.

Censorship is retarded. Call it that and move on.

Two things:

1. Do not make the mistake of equating Bavaria with the rest of Germany.
They are REALLY different from any other state (for example, being ruled single-handedly by ONE monolithic conservative party for DECADES).
Every German I talked to so far reacted with vicious facepalming to this news.

2. It´s a publicity stunt.
The political party the minister who ordered this belongs to, has a lot of problems right now and is trying to stir up publicity and get attention.
The USK itself has actually calmed down significantly in recent years (having given the game a adults only rating and leaving in all the delicious, delicious dismemberment).

Edit: Forgot something.
The Bavarian government hasn´t "overruled" the USK. They can´t do that.
All they did was force the USK to take another look at the game. Taking Bavarian concerns into account.
This will do jack shit to the actual release, except delay it a bit.
And.... if you need help decoding German in the future, you can give me a call whenever you want. Then you won´t have to rely on the monstrosity that is google-translation...

I think the Bavarian Ministry of Social Services are trying to tell us the game's a rental at best. How very financially responsible of you Bavaria, thanks!

Asuka Soryu:
Seriously? If I was them, I'd just tell Germany to screw off and stop releasing violent games there.

Yeah great idea pull of the the richest and largest market in Europe. Its always a good idea to ignore 100 million potential customers.

One thing is wrong in the article. Diablo 3 does not need to be censored. The last version they tested was just fine with 16+ and no censorship at all. And it's likely that'll be the same for the release version though that isn't set in stone of course.

Edit: And yeah the consorship going on is pretty ridiculous.
Hell there was The Dark Knight on TV some weeks ago. And in order to shorten it they also censored the "violent" (roflmao) parts which happened to be some of the most important. For example the "why so serious son" stuff got heavily cut x.x

TheAmazingHobo:
Two things:

1. Do not make the mistake of equating Bavaria with the rest of Germany.
They are REALLY different from any other state (for example, being ruled single-handedly by ONE monolithic conservative party for DECADES).
Every German I talked to so far reacted with vicious facepalming to this news.

2. It´s a publicity stunt.
The political party the minister who ordered this belongs to, has a lot of problems right now and is trying to stir up publicity and get attention.
The USK itself has actually calmed down significantly in recent years (having given the game a adults only rating and leaving in all the delicious, delicious dismemberment).

Edit: Forgot something.
The Bavarian government hasn´t "overruled" the USK. They can´t do that.
All they did was force the USK to take another look at the game. Taking Bavarian concerns into account.
This will do jack shit to the actual release, except delay it a bit.
And.... if you need help decoding German in the future, you can give me a call whenever you want. Then you won´t have to rely on the monstrosity that is google-translation...

Quoted for 110% of truth. Thank you, my dear countryman.

Seriously, guys, get your facts straight before you start railing against our country as a whole and demanding that we be excluded from the sale of certain games.
As for the delay this will most likely cause... meh. Unfortunate, yes, but not a deal-breaker.

teqrevisited:

Andy Chalk:
previous test version of the game was turned down because players could injure each other with friendly fire in the multiplayer mode; the German version of the game will apparently have friendly fire removed.

Wow. I feel sorry for people stuck in countries with backwards systems like these. An idea though, we could get all the most controversial developers together to make a game so horrifically shocking that it kills the oversensitive old bastards making these ridiculous decisions.

What you have to understand, is that friendly fire was not taken out at random, there are hundreds of games where it was left in. It was taken out because it made it possible to dismember human beings (which is why the single player is no problem, seeing how you only dismember zombie-alien-monster.....stuff), something the USK takes umbrage with.

And it wouldn´t call it "backwards", it is just a certain way of handling games that contain violence. All in all, Germany has a much more progressive view of video games, if you contrast it with America or the UK. For example, from my experience, the notion of games as children toys is much less common over here.
And it is precisely because the German rating system is really strict, that whenever a nut-job wants to ban games, this is the typical reaction of the public:

/point
/laugh
/dance

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