FBI Raids Texas Company in Hunt for Anonymous

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FBI Raids Texas Company in Hunt for Anonymous

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The search spanned the Atlantic, but federal agents are zeroing in on what they think might be the Anonymous members that attacked PayPal.

The FBI has raided a Texan hosting company and seized equipment believed to have been used in the distributed denial of service attacks that targeted supposed "enemies" of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, which included the likes of PayPal and MasterCard.

It was actually PayPal that set the wheels in motion, as investigators working for the company supplied the FBI with eight IP addresses that had hosted an IRC chat of Anonymous members. Agents operating out of the Bureau's San Francisco office then began to trace at least two of the IPs, with help from law enforcement organizations in Europe.

The first IP was traced back to a company called Host Europe, which is based in Germany. The German Federal Criminal Police investigated further and discovered that the server in question belonged to a man in France, but that it had been compromised by a third party. The IP of this third party put the ball back in the FBI's court, as it originated from a dedicated server hosting company based in Dallas, Texas. Agents copied the contents of two hard drives from inside the server on December 16th, but the Bureau not revealed what - if anything - it has discovered.

The second IP that PayPal handed over was traced to a server held by a Californian hosting company. It's not known at this time if the FBI has also seized data from this second site, but it seems a reasonably safe assumption that it did.

Source: The Smoking Gun via Game Politics

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I'd say Anonymous is about to learn that none of them are truly untraceable.

I'm always in favour of the authorities showing that they have a good handle on modern crime but can't really get behind them on this one.

The Paypal DDoS attacks were made in retaliation for the American government putting unlawful pressure on PayPal and other financial institutions and for those organisations bowing to the government pressure.

While two wrongs don't make a right are we really expecting a third wrong, arresting the leaders of the cyber attack, to make the whole sordid affair better?

So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

This sounds like a cool detective novel. One I'd actually read. I'd find the resourcefulness of everyday people such as the anonymous to be interesting.

Man, it's like Anonymous thought they were invincible and untraceable or something.

I look forward to the Feebies bringing out the gigantic novelty vats of liquid nitrogen.

And besides, to everyone saying justified etc, they still attacked and brought down PayPal, the FBI website... These things aren't legal! In fact they come pretty close to constituting cyber-terrorism.

This is a real '7 proxies' moment. I doubt they'll catch anyone though.

Ldude893:
So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

would you rather anonymous grow out of control and get so sucked up in its own power that it will eventually take over our governments? (i really think that if one controls the internet, they can control the world)
well hell no, this should teach those little cunts a lesson.
don't
fuck
with the government.

Azaraxzealot:

Ldude893:
So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

would you rather anonymous grow out of control and get so sucked up in its own power that it will eventually take over our governments? (i really think that if one controls the internet, they can control the world)
well hell no, this should teach those little cunts a lesson.
don't
fuck
with the government.

They're fighting for us in this case. What has happened to Assange is total bullshit. Those rape charges are fake, the case against him in slanted heavily, and when anyone opposes, they get attacked.

So much for equal stance on crime. /b/ puts up child porn 5 years ago, no one bats an eye. They help a man fight an unlawful case against him, they get rolled.

Clearly anonymous only has one option, take down the FBI.

As interesting as that would be I'm with Serve, I doubt they'll catch anyone and probably end up throwing blame at some random farm owner who doesn't even own a computer or something ridiculous like that.

*grabs popcorn*

If the net is closing on Anonymous of all groups, this is going to go from a light poop rain to a full s***storm very quickly.

Sevre:
This is a real '7 proxies' moment. I doubt they'll catch anyone though.

What would be awesome is if behind the 7 proxies there was some 70 year old grandma's unlocked Wi-Fi connection and she got vanned. Just sayin'.

Ldude893:
So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

YEAH! the crusade against freedom...where people in the government can just go ahead and sell secrets.
Whistle blowing you say? you mean the Person that sold the documents felt that a wrong was being commited and just had to get it out there? oh you mean that person didn't they just wanted to make a quick buck by selling the files they had copied onto a usb stick?

So many people are in support of Wikileaks yet I don't see those same people giving up all their secrets, The freedom of information is a silly idea some things in the world must be secret, I certainly as I said don't see the wikileaks folks posting all their secrets but thats the nature of people that support such causes they are all raring when it comes to other people but when their own secrets are in the open then its no longer freedom of information.

Whoever wins... Lolage will take place

Sad thing is, once the FBI find the people who did it, they'll just turn around and hire them to work for them as well paid "consultants" to help stop other hackers.

While I don't usually support Anonymous, I find it hard to get behind the FBI on this. I support Assange and Wikileaks, simply for what he/it stands for. Anonymous sortof stands for the same thing, but usually makes things alot worse. What they did to PayPal and the rest of them may not have been the best thing to do, but the reason for doing these things is honourable. Assange may have the 'might' of the US government after him, and I respect him for standing up to the bureaucratic, politically motivated bullshit.

Governments should always to held accountable. They have the responsibility to 'govern' and protect those under their care. Assange showed up arguably the most powerful government in the world, and I support him for that.

The f*ck ever. I am long past my little 4chan phase, but the guys at PayPal are a bunch of spineless cowards.

Actual:
I'm always in favour of the authorities showing that they have a good handle on modern crime but can't really get behind them on this one.

The Paypal DDoS attacks were made in retaliation for the American government putting unlawful pressure on PayPal and other financial institutions and for those organisations bowing to the government pressure.

While two wrongs don't make a right are we really expecting a third wrong, arresting the leaders of the cyber attack, to make the whole sordid affair better?

Exactly my sentiments, good sir. I have a high opinion of Assange for his work in journalistic freedom and was pretty pissed that the American government would pressure PayPal and Mastercard like that and was even more pissed at people calling for his execution.

Sevre:
This is a real '7 proxies' moment. I doubt they'll catch anyone though.

What concerns me is that the FBI will catch "those hackers", whether they are real hackers, or even people who own a computer.

Azaraxzealot:

Ldude893:
So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

would you rather anonymous grow out of control and get so sucked up in its own power that it will eventually take over our governments? (i really think that if one controls the internet, they can control the world)
well hell no, this should teach those little cunts a lesson.
don't
fuck
with the government.

Yeah, don't do anything while they slowly take away freedom. Learn your place like a good little citizen.

Remember, the government is a group of people that are chosen to help organize the people who live in the country. They're supposed to work for you, not the other way around.

Besides, Anonymous members are mostly decent people in real life. Sure they are little cunts, but all their actions are actually a relief to me. It means the internet still has a bit of freedom left.

I don't support Anonymous or what they did. I also don't support WikiLeaks. I am all in favor for the government telling us the truth and keeping us informed, but some things are meant to be a secret for our safety.

Everyone knows Russia is basically run by Vladmir Putin though. Don't know why people are still surprised by that.

Well, there are the smart members of Anonymous and then there are the foolish ones. Plus, it;s not like eradicating (and I'm using that as a heavy term) those small pockets can eliminate the rest of the user base.

There's always going to be another way or another set of people who will carry on.

Burst6:

Azaraxzealot:

Ldude893:
So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

would you rather anonymous grow out of control and get so sucked up in its own power that it will eventually take over our governments? (i really think that if one controls the internet, they can control the world)
well hell no, this should teach those little cunts a lesson.
don't
fuck
with the government.

Yeah, don't do anything while they slowly take away freedom. Learn your place like a good little citizen.

Remember, the government is a group of people that are chosen to help organize the people who live in the country. They're supposed to work for you, not the other way around.

Besides, Anonymous members are mostly decent people in real life. Sure they are little cunts, but all their actions are actually a relief to me. It means the internet still has a bit of freedom left.

"dont fuck with the government" should be common sense to anyone who knows what life is really like. protesting and petitioning isn't fucking with the government, but actually taking hostile action against them is something NO ONE should do, unless you're asking to disappear... for a looooooong time.

besides that, all these little cunts are doing are fighting to keep are their child pornography and guro hentai involving 5 year old girls getting tentacle-raped.

other than that, i dont think they could give a damn about our "freedom"

Kuala BangoDango:
Sad thing is, once the FBI find the people who did it, they'll just turn around and hire them to work for them as well paid "consultants" to help stop other hackers.

That's capitalism for you.

Would be lol worthy if in the back tracing they end up in a FBI datacenter.

WilliamRLBaker:

So many people are in support of Wikileaks yet I don't see those same people giving up all their secrets, The freedom of information is a silly idea some things in the world must be secret, I certainly as I said don't see the wikileaks folks posting all their secrets but thats the nature of people that support such causes they are all raring when it comes to other people but when their own secrets are in the open then its no longer freedom of information.

Some secrets SHOULD be told, For example, the fact they lied about the civilian deathcount in the middle east. While some stuff shouldn't have been leaked (e.g. the critical infastructure list)

To be entirely honest I do not agree with their actions on behalf of Wikileaks. I agree with a lot of what Anonymous has done, but I do think that Wikileaks went too far. In that case I think they were endangering more people than they were helping, not to mention sort of shooting themselves in the foot because the people benefitting from the information released by things like Wikileaks are far more opposed to the freedom Anonymous claims to defend than the groups they are outing. Whether my opinion on this will change remains to be seem, but I do not think it will.

Otherwise, until they actually manage to both arrest and successfully convict someone I'm not all that impressed here. All we're seeing is Law Enforcement running around, flexing some muscle, to show that they are concerned about Anonymous which has been becoming increasingly famous due to it's attacks. They have to be seen doing something, but whether this is going to be a giant show or see results remains to be seen.

Truthfully, I half expect that this is going to backfire on the FBI and international law enforcement community if these kinds of actions don't yield substantial results, failure is going to make them look powerless, and honestly I don't think they are actually going to catch someone here.

I think Anonymous should return to operating on a somewhat smaller scale personally. Going after media and internet censorship policies is one thing, even if they attack goverments. Getting involved in information involving goverment secrets, diplomatic files, espionage, and similar things like Wikileaks was involved in is an entirely differant matter, especially in today's climate.

Burst6:
Yeah, don't do anything while they slowly take away freedom. Learn your place like a good little citizen.

Remember, the government is a group of people that are chosen to help organize the people who live in the country. They're supposed to work for you, not the other way around.

Besides, Anonymous members are mostly decent people in real life. Sure they are little cunts, but all their actions are actually a relief to me. It means the internet still has a bit of freedom left.

Quoted for utter retardation blowing my mind a little. Dude, Anonymous are a bunch of dicks. They go on a bunch of little power trips ever month or so thinking they're untouchable and attack and ruin whoever they feel like for shits and giggles. If they were doing it with guns instead of internet attacks they'd probably be considered the greatest threat on the entire planet. The FBI has every right to chase those little fuckmunches down, freedom has nothing to do with it. Freedom stops being an issue when you're fucking around with other people's freedoms while you're at it.

For every act of charity Anonymous does they screw over a dozens random people because they think it's hilarious. As far as I'm concerned their real life actions are a facade, because these are the stunts they pull when they have the power to.

Anonymous needs to die a wretched, smouldering death if any real freedom's ever going to be found in this wasteland we call an internet.

I pretty much called this.

Anonymous has been pulling DOS attacks as pranks for a long time, but the point where they decided to dabble in attacking commerce sites in the name of political activism, they pretty much crossed the line into being full-fledged "cyber-terrorists" - literally, not just throwing around terrorism as a word to scare people into being right-wing.

Although the FBI isn't going to wipe out anonymous by taking down a few servers in Texas any easier than they could wipe out software piracy by taking down a few servers anywhere. Anonymous isn't just 3 guys having a good time. It's an offshoot of 4Chan, which is a significant part of today's online youth culture.

njsykora:
*grabs popcorn*

If the net is closing on Anonymous of all groups, this is going to go from a light poop rain to a full s***storm very quickly.

Care to share some popcorn?

I can't wait to see the backlash for this. I need to get an Anon jersey or something to support my team

Azaraxzealot:

"dont fuck with the government" should be common sense to anyone who knows what life is really like. protesting and petitioning isn't fucking with the government, but actually taking hostile action against them is something NO ONE should do, unless you're asking to disappear... for a looooooong time.

besides that, all these little cunts are doing are fighting to keep are their child pornography and guro hentai involving 5 year old girls getting tentacle-raped.

other than that, i dont think they could give a damn about our "freedom"

Don't fuck with the people should be the real common sense. If the people don't like the government, they have every right to fight against injustice.

Also: guru hentai about five year olds being raped by tentacles? You think that these people are risking their lives for something free off the internet?

Azaraxzealot:

Ldude893:
So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

would you rather anonymous grow out of control and get so sucked up in its own power that it will eventually take over our governments? (i really think that if one controls the internet, they can control the world)
well hell no, this should teach those little cunts a lesson.
don't
fuck
with the government.

I really don't think they can DDOS the white house, do you?

I expect this will end the same way it always does.

FBI finds a few scapegoats and proudly proclaims "JUSTICE IS SERVED!" with a patriotic floating american flag behind them...

...and more DDoS attacks occur soon afterwards...big victory, eh?

So some suckers forgot to proxy. Sucks to be them now.

Azaraxzealot:

Ldude893:
So much for the anonymity of "Anonymous".

Three cheers for the FBI and their bureaucratic crusade against freedom.

would you rather anonymous grow out of control and get so sucked up in its own power that it will eventually take over our governments? (i really think that if one controls the internet, they can control the world)
well hell no, this should teach those little cunts a lesson.
don't
fuck
with the government.

eesh... imagine a world under Anon's power... we'd all be forced to crack racist jokes every 3 seconds and probably lynch minorities.

i personally don't see why the FBI just launches it's own DDoS attack on /b/, considering it's their main HQ.

Consequences will never be the same! Anonymous Dun Goofed!

Anonymous is like a hydra, each individual involved in a single head, cut one off and over 9000 will replace it. Amirite guys?

Only a matter of time until those angry teens are put in jail! And anonymous will end forever!

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