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Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List

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Conservative columnist and anti-feminist writer Phyllis Schlafly has a few zingers for New Year's Resolutions including instituting a ban on violent videogames.

I'm sure that many of you have resolved to be a better person in 2011, whether through a formalized list of Resolutions or merely choosing to eat a salad over that burger that's calling your name to offset the excess of the Holidays. *cough* *raises hand* But some people have more lofty goals than weight loss for 2011. Phyllis Schlafly, author of Feminist Fantasies arguing against the Feminist movement, decided to write a post on Townhall.com that outlines her resolutions for what the newly-elected Republican state senators in the US should make a priority in 2011. To be honest, most of Schlafly's resolutions are pretty boring governance issues like election fraud and taxes, but then you get about mid-way through the page and see this gem:

Videogames: "There shall be no sale, rental or arcade-playing of extremely violent videogames by children without parental consent." Explanation: Videogames are increasingly graphic and harmful.

There are a number of things wrong with this statement, which takes some things for granted while simultaneously presenting a very outdated impression of the videogame industry. First off, who plays games in an arcade anymore? It's like Schlafly is stuck in the 1993 Mortal Kombat controversy. The actual content of the resolution is something that I generally agree with - there are a bunch of games that I wouldn't want my child to play - but I don't think that legislating it is a good idea as it will lead to abuse.

The tone of Schlafly's "explanation" is the real problem here, though. It disturbs me that an intelligent person such as Schlafly clearly takes the fact that videogames are inherently harmful as a matter of fact. Well, we do not hold these truths to be self-evident. There is no actual evidence that videogames are harmful in any way or that they encourage negative or violent behavior. The recent Supreme Court arguments prove that not even the State of California could come up with compelling evidence that significantly swayed the opinions of the highest court in the land.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Reading the rest of Schlafly's resolutions leaves me equally stupefied. You think it's that important that Good Friday become a State Holiday? Or that it's worth writing a law against companies who "discriminate against the Boy Scouts"? Really?

Source: Townhall.com

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Now, I'm a Conservative myself in many ways, but these people like her are all nuts and undereducated in this subject matter. I can't wait until the gaming generation takes over political offices.

Again, the parents need to do their fucking job.

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These kids didn't go out and buy the games themselves. They MIGHT have bought the headset with the $50 allowance their spoiled little brat ass gets every week, but they didn't buy the game himself.

/rant

Edit: Sorry. I've been playing a lot of Black Ops lately. And working at Gamestop lets me overhear these spoiled brats and their stupid, oblivious parents.

Onyx Oblivion:

These kids didn't go out and buy the games themselves. They MIGHT have bought the headset with the $50 allowance their spoiled little brat ass gets every week, but they didn't buy the game himself.

Headset but not the game..?

What the hell are you talking about, lol

Alright, I'm going to nip this in the bud here: ONE CRAZY BITCH DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF CONSERVATISM. STOP DOING THAT ESCAPIST.

I just came from Teamliquid where evidently all Texans are crazy because we don't like a fairly abusive new statute the EPA is trying to cram down our throats, I've had enough of political misrepresentation and ignorance today.

a law against companies who "discriminate against the Boy Scouts"

It doesn't explain what is meant by "discriminate against the Boy Scouts", so I'm quite confused.

Regardless, I'm not really pleased by a theist organization like the Boy Scouts (at the top, at least) getting special protections from the government.

Okay... So she's a Conservative Anti-Feminist.

The fuck is she doing in politics?

Found that weird, since from her stance it seems she'd like to see women in the kitchen rather than doing anything else other than cooking or taking care of kids.

(Sorry if I offend anyone, just pointing out something I found odd)

deth2munkies:
Alright, I'm going to nip this in the bud here: ONE CRAZY BITCH DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF CONSERVATISM. STOP DOING THAT ESCAPIST.

I just came from Teamliquid where evidently all Texans are crazy because we don't like a fairly abusive new statute the EPA is trying to cram down our throats, I've had enough of political misrepresentation and ignorance today.

When someone is a politician it is standard practice to mention their party alignment when introducing them. You'll notice that nowhere does it mention conservatives as a whole (except to say that she, A SINGLE PERSON, thinks they should do X Y & Z), the title is using Conservative's pertaining to a SINGLE CONSERVATIVE I'm sure. You're projecting.

I don't see a problem, you already can't sell M rated "violent" videogames to kids without parents buying it for them.

danpascooch:

Onyx Oblivion:

These kids didn't go out and buy the games themselves. They MIGHT have bought the headset with the $50 allowance their spoiled little brat ass gets every week, but they didn't buy the game himself.

Headset but not the game..?

What the hell are you talking about, lol

I've been playing a lot of Black Ops lately, sorry.

Oh you Conservatives... fuck the poor, amirite?

Good to see there's still some of us who haven't left the 20th century ._.

Greg Tito:
First off, who plays games in an arcade anymore?

... *slowly raises hand, looking around the room with uncertainty*

There's banning violent games as a whole and making stronger measures to ensure that kids don't get their hands on AO games. I can't say what she's intending to fight for, so wont make any rash judgments on her part. I'm sure she's got more interesting and better things to do in the meantime.

I don't know how to really feel. I don't believe in what they are saying, but they do have point in wanting to relugate the ease of access to violent games for young kids but we already have that, the ESRB ( I think thats the name) but at the same time I don't understand when a twenty-something year old, says that if the law about games passes that it will effect him/her, because it won't he/she is old enough to buy violent games. As from what I heared the law apply to young kids. Anyway if someone could explain how it effect all gamers, I would like to know in all serious-ness. And finally it does come down to the parents or if by change a ten year old save up enough money to buy splatterhouse then it is up to store employees to realize the problem

Must be honest here, thought it was David Cameron's lot and started to panic. Should have guessed it was America what with the recent attempt at law change.

OT: Good luck doing that purely without parents help. Utimately your just hindering the stores efforts, not the kids who get mum and dad to buy the game for them.

deth2munkies:
Alright, I'm going to nip this in the bud here: ONE CRAZY BITCH DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF CONSERVATISM. STOP DOING THAT ESCAPIST.

I just came from Teamliquid where evidently all Texans are crazy because we don't like a fairly abusive new statute the EPA is trying to cram down our throats, I've had enough of political misrepresentation and ignorance today.

The power of the liberal media of today has made it so that any one who is even remotely conservative is villainous.

I'm actually considering switching to Fox News just to see the other side of these stories.

danpascooch:

deth2munkies:
Alright, I'm going to nip this in the bud here: ONE CRAZY BITCH DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF CONSERVATISM. STOP DOING THAT ESCAPIST.

I just came from Teamliquid where evidently all Texans are crazy because we don't like a fairly abusive new statute the EPA is trying to cram down our throats, I've had enough of political misrepresentation and ignorance today.

When someone is a politician it is standard practice to mention their party alignment when introducing them. You'll notice that nowhere does it mention conservatives as a whole (except to say that she, A SINGLE PERSON, thinks they should do X Y & Z), the title is using Conservative's pertaining to a SINGLE CONSERVATIVE I'm sure. You're projecting.

I'm well aware of what it ACTUALLY says, but don't tell me you read it, read my post, then went back and re-read the thread title. It's completely misleading in its current wording as evidenced by a good number of posts in this thread ALREADY.

wait there are companies that discriminate against the boy Scouts?! o.O really?!

man what has this world come to.

deth2munkies:

danpascooch:

deth2munkies:
Alright, I'm going to nip this in the bud here: ONE CRAZY BITCH DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF CONSERVATISM. STOP DOING THAT ESCAPIST.

I just came from Teamliquid where evidently all Texans are crazy because we don't like a fairly abusive new statute the EPA is trying to cram down our throats, I've had enough of political misrepresentation and ignorance today.

When someone is a politician it is standard practice to mention their party alignment when introducing them. You'll notice that nowhere does it mention conservatives as a whole (except to say that she, A SINGLE PERSON, thinks they should do X Y & Z), the title is using Conservative's pertaining to a SINGLE CONSERVATIVE I'm sure. You're projecting.

I'm well aware of what it ACTUALLY says, but don't tell me you read it, read my post, then went back and re-read the thread title. It's completely misleading in its current wording as evidenced by a good number of posts in this thread ALREADY.

Greg Tito:
Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List

Yeah, fix that title, Greg.

Schlafly? That pokemon's adorable! Oh, wait...

On a serious note, please remember that there are people on both sides of the aisle who want to ban violent videogames--this is not a purely conservative or purely liberal thing. The fact Rush Limbaugh is actually against the censorship of games says volumes.

So she's saying the parents don't pay attention to a game's rating, so let's make it a law the parent's wont pay attention to. lolwut? Ahh... the elderly with their arthritis and dementia. Bless her conservative little heart.

Tim Latshaw:
Schlafly? That pokemon's adorable! Oh, wait...

On a serious note, please remember that there are people on both sides of the aisle who want to ban violent videogames--this not a purely conservative or purely liberal thing. The fact Rush Limbaugh is actually against the censorship of games says volumes.

After I heard that, I actually started listening to his show for a bit. He's not all that bad, really...

I mean, he's got his own kind of bias, but who doesn't?

At least he's not as bad as fucking Rachel Maddow.

Demand small and limited government.

Demand Government ban gay marriage, abortion, and the sale of violent games to minors.

Quaidis:

Greg Tito:
First off, who plays games in an arcade anymore?

... *slowly raises hand, looking around the room with uncertainty*

There's banning violent games as a whole and making stronger measures to ensure that gets don't get their hands on AO games

I find the best way to stop kids from getting their hands on Adult games tends to be... to have the damn parent's take some responsibility and stop blaming everyone else for why their children aren't turning out right when they're raising themselves.

Gawd. This is rediculous. You need proof that you're of legal age to purchase these games. That's all that's needed. That should be good enough, no one's at fault except the damn parent who buys this game for their kid, even after the clerk tells him/her that it's a M rated game.

Why should game companies and games in general have to pay for the ignorance and lazyness of bad parent's? The game companies did what they needed to do, this is just so irritating. Ugh! Honestly... it just sickens me to see people have to be punished because some moron doesn't know how to raise a kid, so they have to make everyone pay for it.

-End Rant here-

Fronzel:

a law against companies who "discriminate against the Boy Scouts"

It doesn't explain what is meant by "discriminate against the Boy Scouts", so I'm quite confused.

Regardless, I'm not really pleased by a theist organization like the Boy Scouts (at the top, at least) getting special protections from the government.

The thing about the Boy scouts of America is they are (and yes I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory but trust me this is legit) run by the Mormon church, since the 80's, hence the sudden changes to enforce religious practice, exclude non-christians and homosexuals. The Boy Scouts also have a fairly comprehensive programme to make their members "upstanding, right-thinking citizens" (RE: Conservatives who will donate to them).

The Boy Scouts are discriminated against by groups and companies who think a Tax-exempt organisation (run with a fuck load of public funds) that is actively, and very publicly, discriminatory is bullshit.

deth2munkies:
Alright, I'm going to nip this in the bud here: ONE CRAZY BITCH DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF CONSERVATISM. STOP DOING THAT ESCAPIST.

I just came from Teamliquid where evidently all Texans are crazy because we don't like a fairly abusive new statute the EPA is trying to cram down our throats, I've had enough of political misrepresentation and ignorance today.

When you can prove that none of the pollution you generate in Texas makes it across the border into neighbouring states or countries, you can opt out of the EPA program.

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Onyx Oblivion:

Tim Latshaw:
Schlafly? That pokemon's adorable! Oh, wait...

On a serious note, please remember that there are people on both sides of the aisle who want to ban violent videogames--this not a purely conservative or purely liberal thing. The fact Rush Limbaugh is actually against the censorship of games says volumes.

After I heard that, I actually started listening to his show for a bit. He's not all that bad, really...

I mean, he's got his own kind of bias, but who doesn't?

At least he's not as bad as fucking Rachel Maddow.

He's a hideous excuse for a human being who only supports the rights of those who are rich, white, christian, straight, and agree with him. He's a "libertarian" when asked, until you ask him about the rights of muslims, atheists, or homosexuals.

zHellas:
Okay... So she's a Conservative Anti-Feminist.

The fuck is she doing in politics?

Found that weird, since from her stance it seems she'd like to see women in the kitchen rather than doing anything else other than cooking or taking care of kids.

(Sorry if I offend anyone, just pointing out something I found odd)

Her anti-feminism is actually mostly directed at the movement, not actual feminine empowerment. Women deserve to be equal, not better, more or less... A viewpoint not shared by the vocal majority of the feminist movement.

On topic: This stuff never works out. People have been trying to ban violent media since speech. (Picture if you will primitive man using their first speech to tell stories of hunts, and one prude sitting in the corner telling them they shouldn't do that because their brother died in a hunt, and no context makes violence okay!) Censorship will often win out in western culture just because old society is scared to death that it may become obsolete. Things will probably get worse before they get better.

EDIT: nevermind

Nocta-Aeterna:
A female anti-feminist in politics?

Unless I know even less than I thought about feminism, I can safely say my brain just broke....

YOUR brain is fine.

Her brain is fucked up.

Onyx Oblivion:

deth2munkies:

danpascooch:

When someone is a politician it is standard practice to mention their party alignment when introducing them. You'll notice that nowhere does it mention conservatives as a whole (except to say that she, A SINGLE PERSON, thinks they should do X Y & Z), the title is using Conservative's pertaining to a SINGLE CONSERVATIVE I'm sure. You're projecting.

I'm well aware of what it ACTUALLY says, but don't tell me you read it, read my post, then went back and re-read the thread title. It's completely misleading in its current wording as evidenced by a good number of posts in this thread ALREADY.

Greg Tito:
Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List

Yeah, fix that title, Greg.

It doesn't say "Tops the conservative party's to do list", it says "Tops Conservative's to do list". The apostrophy in "Conservative's" indicates possession of an individual which is not the same as "Conservatives". If you plan on complaining about language use learn some first.

Onyx Oblivion:

Nocta-Aeterna:
A female anti-feminist in politics?

Unless I know even less than I thought about feminism, I can safely say my brain just broke....

YOUR brain is fine.

Her brain is fucked up.

A lot about feminism is bullshit, the same with any movement. An awful lot of feminist agendas (In the more retarded, self-obsessed groups) are about putting women first not seeking equality between men and women.

RvLeshrac:

deth2munkies:
Alright, I'm going to nip this in the bud here: ONE CRAZY BITCH DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF CONSERVATISM. STOP DOING THAT ESCAPIST.

I just came from Teamliquid where evidently all Texans are crazy because we don't like a fairly abusive new statute the EPA is trying to cram down our throats, I've had enough of political misrepresentation and ignorance today.

When you can prove that none of the pollution you generate in Texas makes it across the border into neighbouring states or countries, you can opt out of the EPA program.

Agree or disagree with it, calling all of Texas "childish", "crazy", and "insane" are not names that can be levied over a legal issue like this one. That kind of generalization and ignorance is what's wrong with a bunch of people and general discourse at low (random assholes on forum boards) and high (Fox News/editorials) forms of political thought.

Companies discriminate against the boyscouts... Huh?

Aren't the really far out there Conservatives pretty much in the same group as Christians? I honestly don't see the difference between the two groups or most radical parties for that matter, they're all about the "let me tell you how you can live your life" sort of ideal.

No offense to anyone, I respect your right to an opinion and everything, but I find it hard to respect any view where you think (actually thinking I don't have an issue with, but enforcing said thought through various means) someone else should be prohibited from doing something that isn't directly harmful to someone else and after growing up with a number of different people, I haven't seen one person who was incited to violence by gaming who wasn't otherwise violent due to a number of far more contributing factors like family abuse (which afaik the often patriarchally-leaning Conservatives aren't necessarily against) and such.

manythings:

It doesn't say "Tops the conservative parties to do list", it says "Tops Conservative's to do list". The apostrophy in "Conservative's" indicates possession of an individual which is not the same as "Conservatives". If you plan on complaining about language use learn some first.

I noticed that right away.

Some of the others in the topic have not, however.

I agree that parents really need to realize that games sometimes say Rated M for Mature, 17+ violent, etc. for a good reason. I buy games all the time and I am always having to show ID, and a few times my mother was with me, and the employee will say, Ma'am this is a M-rated game, it has violence, death, and nude people. So, unless you have a uncaring employee or parent, underage kids don't get the game

Videogames: "There shall be no sale, rental or arcade-playing of extremely violent videogames by children without parental consent." Explanation: Videogames are increasingly graphic and harmful.

What's wrong with that? Violent games can't be sold to children without parental consent in England and it works fine, stop making a fuss >.<

Dexiro:

Videogames: "There shall be no sale, rental or arcade-playing of extremely violent videogames by children without parental consent." Explanation: Videogames are increasingly graphic and harmful.

What's wrong with that? Violent games can't be sold to children without parental consent in England and it works fine, stop making a fuss >.<

Learn the basics of the American justice system before commenting in such a manner mate. Had tons of these posts during the Schwarzenegger vs EMA debate as well, really, research a bit before you post.

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