Rumor: Zack Snyder's Next Movies Have Some Big Problems

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Rumor: Zack Snyder's Next Movies Have Some Big Problems

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Superman's script is apparently a mess, and Sucker Punch is reportedly a "disaster." If rumors are true, Zack Snyder's movies are in trouble.

The rumor mill is working overtime in Hollywood today, and the current topic is Zack Snyder. Following Vulture's news that Guy Ritchie has been asked to direct Xerxes, the sequel to 300, people are wondering why Mr. Snyder isn't working on the film. Current theories claim that studio executives don't want Snyder to take on any new projects because his next two movies are experiencing some huge problems.

First up is the new Superman movie that Snyder is working on. According to New York Magazine, the movie has folks at Warner Bros. extremely nervous because of problems with the script and an increasingly-scary deadline:

Warner Bros. needs Snyder to bear down on Superman stat: Insiders say the closely-guarded script for Superman [written by David Goyer and Christopher Nolan] suffers from major third-act problems, and the studio faces a ticking clock on that franchise, legally speaking; if a Superman film isn't in production by 2013, Warner Bros. loses the rights to the entire Superman franchise and would have to re-license it from its original creators - the estates of Detective Comics writers Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster - at great if not prohibitive expense.

This isn't the first time that rumors of problems with the Superman script have surfaced. io9 reports that Darren Aronofsky wasn't given the project because Warner Bros. was afraid he'd spend too much time trying to fix the screenplay and miss the aforementioned deadline.

However, the soon-to-be-released Sucker Punch sounds like it's got some more immediate problems. Warner Bros. recently conducted a test screening of the film and the consensus was that the movie is "a CG disaster."

According to one studio insider who spoke to New York Magazine, "It was bad; like, really bad. They're [WB] really not happy with it over there."

Personally, I'm not sure I believe reports about the Superman script being as problematic as people are making it out to be, simply because of Nolan and Goyer's prior track record. That said, I have a much easier time believing Sucker Punch isn't very good; while the movie certainly looks like it contains some gorgeous action sets, I still don't understand the actual plot, despite all the Web videos that have been released over the past few months.

Also, it should be noted that neither Watchmen nor Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole were stunning critical or commercial successes. From the sound of things, it doesn't seem like Snyder's films will be much better in the near future.

Source: io9

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I don't believe Sucker Punch will be good, despite me wanting it to be. I also am 50/50 split on whether or not they'll fuck up Superman [again].

Sucker Punch always seemed kinda... stupid to me. And this is coming from a guy who's favourite movies are Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky and Scott Pilgrim vs the World.

I still don't understand the actual plot

Women are taken to a mental institute and abused (likely prostituted) making their lives hell. In order to escape they travel into their minds to over obstacles and demons to find a way out of their prison. Now, how this will all work out remains a mystery, but seemed like interesting concept that would allow for scenes that turned heads with trailers.

it is superman, the scripts are usually a mess. I want to see a movie with bizarro at some point. NO MORE LUTHER!!!
or better yet, make it a crossover, you got green lantern coming out, do like Marvel is doing and get a bunch of DC heroes in one movie.

The plot doesn't seem that complex. Crazy girls imagining they are in alternate worlds trying to free themselves. Although the CGI definitely looks like it could slip up.
As for superman, far too early to have real problems methinks.

Drakmeire:
it is superman, the scripts are usually a mess. I want to see a movie with bizarro at some point. NO MORE LUTHER!!!
or better yet, make it a crossover, you got green lantern coming out, do like Marvel is doing and get a bunch of DC heroes in one movie.

really
bizarro?
i mean if you had said solomon grundy or lobo (which would be epic) i would understand, but bizarro actually hurts to READ i can't imagine how annoying he would be onscreen.

But yes Luther needs to stop. Maybe bring in braniac, or Zod xD

I'll believe this blasphemy when I see it!!!!

I am pretty sure the Superman rumor is nothing more than a rumor. The 2013 production start deadline gives them A LOT of time to work on the script. If the third act is the only part needing adjustments, they should be fine. Chris Nolan has this covered!

As for Snyder´s other project...i´m optimistic. The trailer looks good, the concept is cool and i usually like to take these "advance screening spy reports" with a grain of salt. It could fail miserably, but at least Snyder is taking risks, boldly mixing different sub-genres.

Eri:
I don't believe Sucker Punch will be good, despite me wanting it to be. I also am 50/50 split on whether or not they'll fuck up Superman [again].

50-50 is pretty good odds for Superman. I'm almost counting on it to be screwed up.

Sucker Punch got my attention, but I have no idea if it'll be good.

Don't get me wrong, I like Snyder's movies. 300 was good and Watchmen, for every gut-punch it gave Alan Moore, was really good. I hope they get that stuff worked out.

marcogodinho:
I am pretty sure the Superman rumor is nothing more than a rumor. The 2013 production start deadline gives them A LOT of time to work on the script. If the third act is the only part needing adjustments, they should be fine. Chris Nolan has this covered!

As for Snyder´s other project...i´m optimistic. The trailer looks good, the concept is cool and i usually like to take these "advance screening spy reports" with a grain of salt. It could fail miserably, but at least Snyder is taking risks, boldly mixing different sub-genres.

Agreed. Snyder has a pretty good track record (I loved Watchmen, I'm a huge fan of the Dawn of the Dead remake as well as the original, and 300 was stupid fun at the time) so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Besides, if Nolan and his writing partner are having issues with the script for Superman (I doubt it, but let's roll with it), how is it Snyder's problem.

Besides, it's still in the early stages of production, any potential problems can be dealt with easily.

I couldn't care less about Superman, but I'm very dissapointed to hear about Sucker Punch. I'm pretty excited for it, and this is worrying me :(

I suspect that when they say that the third act of the Superman won't be "good", they mean it won't be safe or easily marketable. That is, it might be too challenging for regular audiences. As in; it might not be good for the people financing the movie.

From what I've seen of Suckerpunch, mostly just trailers, it does look a bit confusing.
The trailers highlighted gorgeous action scenes and set pieces though. Have the trailers been doctored, or do they contain the only good looking parts of the movie?

Klumpfot:
I suspect that when they say that the third act of the Superman won't be "good", they mean it won't be safe or easily marketable. That is, it might be too challenging for regular audiences. As in; it might not be good for the people financing the movie.

This was my thinking as soon as I read it.

Also, I've never considered Zack Snyder any sort of "visionary" despite what his trailers want you to think. From what I gather Sucker Punch looks like it'll be a great time at the cinema, so I'll probably see it just for that. This new Superman can't be worse than 3 or 4. I predict this will be a film that is ruined thanks to studio ordered changes and a lot of missed potential in the final version.

The 300 prequel is extremely unnecessary. Why even bother?

Yeah...

I have no expectation of this movie being good, but the concept and trailers make it too good to pass up. Like Your Highness.

Maybe... maybe Nolan is trying to sabotage Snyder? Like, they wrote a script with a totally cocked-up third act on purpose, leaving Snyder holding the ball... And when he falls out of favor with the studios, Nolan will be the only huge-budget high-concept game in town.

Y'know the more I think about the Superman script, the more I think it had to have been David Goyer with assistance from Christopher Nolan. Know what the last script upon which David Goyer had his name? The Unborn. "The Jewish Exorcist." And I don't know if you saw it, but it was an absolute fucking MESS.

Sucker Punch(at least from the trailer) looked like a big CGI masturbation piece with little room for anything substantial.

Then again, I thought the same thing when I saw the trailer for Shyamalan's Avatar The Last Airbender; only to have the movie pull a bait-and-switch on us.
Well, at least it's keeping in line with established tropes: Movies that prominently feature a dragon at one point seem to falter or fail entirely (with only two exceptions coming to my mind). I'm not sure why though...

Gahars:
Agreed. Snyder has a pretty good track record (I loved Watchmen, I'm a huge fan of the Dawn of the Dead remake as well as the original, and 300 was stupid fun at the time) so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

The Dawn of the Dead remake was one of the few remakes that i enjoyed ever since remake-mania recently hit Hollywood. I also liked Watchmen, it´s a nice interpretation of Alan Moore´s work.300 was a more visceral, adrenaline inducing experience where style is valued over substance...and i enjoyed the hell out of it. That fun factor in 300 seems to be explored in sucker punch,since Snyder is mixing up robots, dragons, hot chicks and samurais. My expectations are driven towards a fun popcorn movie with loads of action. If Snyder is able to mix an intricate story with the asylum angle, even better!

The most interesting part of sucker punch as I can see in the trailer is a Samurai with a mini gun. Since that was in the trailer, I don't need to watch it now.

I'm still not sure whether I like Snyder's films, I tried to rewatch both 300 and Watchmen recently, and just found them to be quite boring. That said the first time I really remember enjoying them both (even after reading Watchmen over 3 times the month before the movie came out).

Superman: The short time frame is a bitch. It probably would be in WB's interest to start negotiations with the estate very soon if they can't get the script finalized within six months.

I have a feeling that the third act problem is related to Superman just being too invulnerable without Kryptonite, which makes putting the character in a pitch extremely difficult.

Suckerpunch: I have a feeling this will be one of those nitch-movies that Snyder is really good at; not necessarily a massive hit, but definitely something that a proper movie-buff will remember down the road as at least a small footnote. After all, 300 was just really (and I mean really) good looking guys, some memorable fight scenes and dialog, all plastered around a comic-book art style and a very thin plot.

I'll admit I'm going to see Sucker Punch whether it gets critically panned or not, simply because the visuals look gorgeous.

I can't say I've ever been particularly sold on the whole Superman thing even as a concept, so the film is even less interesting for me. I hope they pull it up though, because I actually rather like Zack Snyder, and Christopher Nolan is pretty good too.

Sucker Punch looked quite fun from a trailer (watching a bluray), so that sounds like a shame if it's a right mess. I would bet that 3D has something to do with this reported fiasco because CGI by itself has advanced to spectacular degrees until the outbreak of this latest trend that not everyone can pull off. Try telling that to Hollywood though without getting laughed out of the big wigs' board meeting.

As for Superman, I think it's karma for too many super hero/comic book movies pushed out in the recent years all at once. A good super hero/comic book movie once in a while is refreshing, but trying to replicate one's success again and again vying for movie franchise material is getting absurd. I may not be a big super hero/comic book fan, but I think that those who are could agree with "quality over quantity" and respect to the source material. Again, try telling Hollywood that without fits of laughter interrupting any flow of common sense. Superman at least has a good backing of talented leaders for the project, so I would not be surprised if it is pulled off well, especially compared to others in the rising genre.

You know what I thought when I saw the 'sucker punch' trailer? I thought "I bet that movie would be good if you were on drugs..."

That is never a good sign.

I'll be brutally honest? I have never thought too much of Snyder's work. Even in 300, I was sitting there thinking to myself that the story was carrying it in spite of the direction, not because of.

Sucker punch always looked dire.

And I wasn't even aware they'd started filming another Superman.

But the Watchmen however, is the best superhero movie out. Second to none.

"It was bad; like, really bad. They're [WB] really not happy with it over there."

Is this "hollywood insider" who talked to NewYork insider a 14 year old girl?

The studios who gave Snyder MILLIONS to make a movie about talking/fighting owls and fund his own script that reads like and anime fanboy's wet dream have no room to complain when he delivers in kind. Whats wrong with the new Superman script? Not enough grousing or romantic entanglement. That wont fare well with the 18-24yr old female demographic? Maybe he's actually adding a violent physical confrontation in the 3rd act....ohh Superman is too heroic and iconic for that....lets have him cry for his illegitimate child instead!!!! Oh no! WB will have to compensate the family of his creators (one of whom was working at a post office when the Reeves flic came out). F that

Watchmen wasn't a critical success? Thats one of my all time favorite films. Anyway I honestly hope these rumors are bullshit. I'm a huge fan of Zack Snyder's work and had high hopes for Sucker Punch.

So much hate and doom and dread in this world. "So like this one guy we don't know said a movie we haven't seen was bad. Like really bad." If I ever direct/write/produce movies I want to be uncredited. The internet is like high school. If your films are liked, you're mildly accepted, but not too much, because no one wants to be a fanboy. If your films aren't liked by the cool kids or they don't get enough advertising or fifty other things that are not in your control, you're a pathetic loser who can't do anything, even though you're a millionaire. It's not worth it. Start your own company and make movies anonymously.

I hate to say it, because I don't personally dislike Zack Snyder, but I hope his new projects do end up failing and he ends up working in a different industry. Perhaps he can put his talents to better use making the biggest-budget epic cgi gay porno ever.

Let's be entirely fair here after all: take 300. When every single man on the screen in a cast of like 20 dudes has bigger and more prominent tits than any woman in the film, something gay is going on. Oh, and blue penis in Watchmen? Yeah. That happened. Again, I don't dislike him, but I think he would fit much better in the gay porn directing scene than directing big budget blockbusters.

Sucker Punch always seemed like a great trailer- but nothing more.

As for Snyder himself, I really dont think hes a very creative director, or a very good one- 300 was good, but when you look at the graphic novel, you begin to realize that the movie's cinematography is practically shot-for-shot from the comic. I've heard some say that "that's what makes it a great adaptation" but I just can't see Snyder coming out and doing something original or creative, or at least not doing it very well.

Isn't this the guy that wants Superman to fight a giant spider?

I really want Sucker-Punch to be good but it won't be.

hmmmm, I think Snyder is a completely competent director, but I don't see him as great. 300 was good (even if it was laced with homophobia and racism), but Watchmen was merely so-so due to Snyder's over-admiration for it (and let's face it, that book was best LEFT as a comic). I don't see Sucker Punch being anything more than pretty and swiftly forgotten; Superman I HOPE he does well as we need more DC films. My guess is that Nolan is merely helping Goyer with the screenplay. Anyway, I hope they work something out with Superman

WHAT?! A JACK SNYDER FILM MERELY LOOKS NICE AND IS ACTUALLY POORLY WRITTEN?! NOOOOOO!!![/massive sarcasm]

Big surprise, Sucker Punch is going to suck. How many people actually held out hope for that movie?

I was surprised to hear about another Superman movie and a 300 sequel just there, but i don't believe any of them will be worth watching.

Two things I must say:

1. Suckerpunch will be awesome if you want a good time and eye candy...like most, if not all of Snyder's films.

and

2. Superman is a nightmare to write/create for. He is a horribly dull and boring character. The people in charge of him need to realize this. Perhaps they should focus on the Flash. While the immediate problems are obvious on a movie for him, at least he is lulzy enough...

ALSO: A 300 sequel!? WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY DO THIS!?

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