Sony Forming Anti-Piracy Legal Superteam

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Sony Forming Anti-Piracy Legal Superteam

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It would appear that Sony sees a lot more trips to court over piracy and hacking in its future, and is hiring staff accordingly.

Sony has no shortage of lawyers, but it's clearly decided that it needs a few more. Two job listings from SCEA show that Sony is looking for people to join a new, dedicated anti-piracy legal team.

The first listing is for a Senior Corporate Counsel for Anti-Piracy and Brand Protection. The main duties of the role include putting together a corporate anti-piracy plan for Sony, liaising with anti-piracy groups and trade bodies, and overseeing piracy lawsuits. The second listing is for a Senior Paralegal for Anti-Piracy and Brand Protection, whose job is to provide support for the Senior Counsel, liaise with other lawyers, and help with training for law enforcement personnel.

Both posts require a deep level of knowledge of copyright and trademark law and litigation, as well as at least ten years of experience working with copyright law, and at least three dealing specifically with anti-piracy and brand protection. There are also some investigative elements required, such as knowing how to track down the owners and administrators of websites.

What's clear is that Sony isn't expecting its complaint against hacker George Hotz to be the last time it heads to court over piracy issues. Quite the opposite in fact, if it has decided that it needs to hire people specifically to oversee and co-ordinate the cases.

Source: IGN

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Mentioning George Hotz is gonna turn this into a HUGE debate again about what he's doing.

Interesting to see SONY gunning up for piracy though. We'll just have to see how this works

The armies of Mordor gather.

Any one remember the talk about how piracy was WAAAAY down at the cost of identity theft? Well. Sony has flipped its lid. I like the fact they want less piracy but they are going nuts with all of this.

Man, Sony's ass is bleeding hard. Still under the impression that every pirated copy equals a lost sale?

Ok, I'm not as phased about this as some others are. I can understand that they want to protect their property, it is their property after all. That said, they are taking this a bit far. I mean, a legal team specifically for piracy issues..? A little bit ridiculous, if you ask me. Then again, the reporters are hyping this a little bit too much. That is to say, like Microsoft or Nintendo doesn't have something like this already? Microsoft especially.

Well of course they will. The thing is, Geohot didn't pirate anything. He didn't steal software and his CFW doesn't allow for pirated games. He only made you able to install packages onto the system, which will in the future be used for homebrew.

He won the suit against Apple, resulting in it not being illegal to jailbreak your iPhone, I think there is a reasonable chance that he may win this one as well. If for no other reason than his work is not directly used for any kind of cheating or pirating. You can give pipe wrenches to everyone, it's not your job to go around making sure they don't beat anyone to death with them. There is such a thing as personal responsibility. Now, if they want to take the backup manager people and sue them, I think the I would have to side with Sony.

Lol, they won't learn will they? what they're fighting is unstoppable and they're wasting money they could be putting into better games that people want to buy.

Isn't this cute. Sony thinks if they just sue enough people piracy will magically go away. I guess whatever floats their boat. If they want to keep throwing money at something they can't hope to defeat who am I to say they shouldn't.

poiumty:
Man, Sony's ass is bleeding hard. Still under the impression that every pirated copy equals a lost sale?

Even if one in ten (or a hundred) pirated copies are the only real lost sales that still adds up to... fuck knows but it's probably a lot. Why wouldn't they try to get their hands on that money?

Way to go Sony. I don't want people being able to pirate the great games that the system has, the companies/development teams deserve their money for their beautiful pieces of interactive multimedia!

Vaccine:
Lol, they won't learn will they? what they're fighting is unstoppable and they're wasting money they could be putting into better games that people want to buy.

I think you, sir, must not have a PS3. It has plenty of better games than any other platform.

Xanthious:
Isn't this cute. Sony thinks if they just sue enough people piracy will magically go away. I guess whatever floats their boat. If they want to keep throwing money at something they can't hope to defeat who am I to say they shouldn't.

They might not kill off piracy, but they'll at least not have it on their system. They already got away with it for a very long time now, and people are just around NOW starting to break into it?

I think it sounds worth it to them.

I dont see how this could help Sony or polish their image. Not a big fan of self mutilation.

StoryMode:
Way to go Sony. I don't want people being able to pirate the great games that the system has, the companies/development teams deserve their money for their beautiful pieces of interactive multimedia!

Vaccine:
Lol, they won't learn will they? what they're fighting is unstoppable and they're wasting money they could be putting into better games that people want to buy.

I think you, sir, must not have a PS3. It has plenty of better games than any other platform.

I have a PS3, I barely touch it.
Also have a Wii, barely touch it.

My PSP and my PC get the most love.

Vaccine:

StoryMode:
Way to go Sony. I don't want people being able to pirate the great games that the system has, the companies/development teams deserve their money for their beautiful pieces of interactive multimedia!

Vaccine:
Lol, they won't learn will they? what they're fighting is unstoppable and they're wasting money they could be putting into better games that people want to buy.

I think you, sir, must not have a PS3. It has plenty of better games than any other platform.

I have a PS3, I barely touch it.
Also have a Wii, barely touch it.

My PSP and my PC get the most love.

My pc gets alot love too

I've always respected how harsh sony is on piracy. This seems like they're gonna start actively going after them, which I'm all for. The pirates already have the PC, can't they be happy about that??

They can't get anymore pathetic than this. Sony is really raging too much.

manythings:
Even if one in ten (or a hundred) pirated copies are the only real lost sales that still adds up to... fuck knows but it's probably a lot. Why wouldn't they try to get their hands on that money?

Let's see. If 6 pirated one dollar songs are worth 1.5 million dollars, then a full length pirated game should be roughly.... eighty bajillion million dollars!

Seriously, I always wanted to know how they calculate the exorbitant charges for pirated goods.

RT-shotgun-support:
The armies of Mordor gather.

Any one remember the talk about how piracy was WAAAAY down at the cost of identity theft? Well. Sony has flipped its lid. I like the fact they want less piracy but they are going nuts with all of this.

Critical Miss called it

I have nothing else really to say.

PS3 owners had the right to do several things that Sony removed later on, and what George hotz did would let those customers be able to use those removed features.

But he also allowed people to turn and use the key to make pirating games more easy.

Neither are in the right, and I think it would be best said:

"...and nothing of value was lost that day."

I´m all for stopping piracy...but i dont think this is a war that Sony´s going to win. They´ll do a lot of damage to themselves in this process.

DeadlyYellow:

manythings:
Even if one in ten (or a hundred) pirated copies are the only real lost sales that still adds up to... fuck knows but it's probably a lot. Why wouldn't they try to get their hands on that money?

Let's see. If 6 pirated one dollar songs are worth 1.5 million dollars, then a full length pirated game should be roughly.... eighty bajillion million dollars!

Seriously, I always wanted to know how they calculate the exorbitant charges for pirated goods.

Good work there, using a shitty analogy to pretend have point. It's fox-newsian in it's irrelevance.

My point, kneejerk, was there IS money being lost and companies (this is the insane part) want to make maximum profits for their products so they endeavour to STOP people who might even tangentially reduce their profits.

marcogodinho:
I´m all for stopping piracy...but i dont think this is a war that Sony´s going to win. They´ll do a lot of damage to themselves in this process.

But if that is what it takes for them to realise they need a better approach, on the whole I would call it a pay off in the consumers favour.

I keep wondering why people claim that Sony sued GeoHot for piracy or hacking XD They sued him for putting the security key on the internet, which was not in his right to do.

I hope they find good lawyers to fill those positions.

Kalezian:

RT-shotgun-support:
The armies of Mordor gather.

Any one remember the talk about how piracy was WAAAAY down at the cost of identity theft? Well. Sony has flipped its lid. I like the fact they want less piracy but they are going nuts with all of this.

Critical Miss called it

I have nothing else really to say.

PS3 owners had the right to do several things that Sony removed later on, and what George hotz did would let those customers be able to use those removed features.

But he also allowed people to turn and use the key to make pirating games more easy.

Neither are in the right, and I think it would be best said:

"...and nothing of value was lost that day."

Ok i missed that comic but that was nice. I never doubted Hotz because i understand what sony is doing. Hotz is not accountable for what others do with his work.

StoryMode:
They might not kill off piracy, but they'll at least not have it on their system. They already got away with it for a very long time now, and people are just around NOW starting to break into it?

I think it sounds worth it to them.

Oh but they will have it on their systems. You see had they of just left the Other OS option there and left well enough alone there may very well not be piracy on the PS3 still. However, Sony went and poked the gorilla in the monkey cage and they just keep poking it. Now people will find ways to pirate games on Sony systems simply out of spite.

Now maybe they think their lawyers will protect them from this. They won't. Sure they might sue, and win against, a few people here and there but what happens when the person releasing the hack is out of Russia, or China or some other god forsaken country where their legal team is impotent to do a damn thing about it?

The fact of the matter is the pirates are best left alone or at the very least dealt with quietly and not out in the open. Sony seems hell bent on taking them head on though right out in front of god and everyone and most likely it will be to their financial determent. The end result will be a perpetual game of one upsmanship that Sony can never hope to win

Sony and Geohot are locking horns. Sony is reinforcing its control arm with the mantra of anti-piracy. Meanwhile, Anonymous is on an rampage. The FBI is on a manhunt for the biggest most unknown form of cyber vigilantism in the 21st century. There's some heavy stuff going down right now. Why do I get the feeling that what happens in the coming months is going to mold the make-up of the internet in near future?

They may as well put that money into a hole and burn it for all the good it'll do.

RT-shotgun-support:

Ok i missed that comic but that was nice. I never doubted Hotz because i understand what sony is doing. Hotz is not accountable for what others do with his work.

actually, because he released the key, he could still be held accountable since there is no way he didnt know people could use it to pirate games.

I want to say it would fall under Criminal Negligence, but I am not a lawyer or pretend to be.

I know he was trying to do some good, though through dubious means, but he should of tried to make it so that the key couldn't be used for piracy, though to be honest, I don't know how that could of been possible.

I think its safe to say regardless of who wins in court, it will be the gamers who will lose.

Kalezian:

RT-shotgun-support:

Ok i missed that comic but that was nice. I never doubted Hotz because i understand what sony is doing. Hotz is not accountable for what others do with his work.

actually, because he released the key, he could still be held accountable since there is no way he didnt know people could use it to pirate games.

I want to say it would fall under Criminal Negligence, but I am not a lawyer or pretend to be.

I know he was trying to do some good, though through dubious means, but he should of tried to make it so that the key couldn't be used for piracy, though to be honest, I don't know how that could of been possible.

I think its safe to say regardless of who wins in court, it will be the gamers who will lose.

Criminal negligence could be possible. Either way i know the end will make Sony look bad because of how they deal with it. win or lose it won't be pretty just as you said.

manythings:
I can't take a joke. The internet is serious business, so please stop wasting the time I spend browsing internet forums.

There, I fixed it for you.

I think GeoHotz is going to need to resume the donation.

Firia:
Sony and Geohot are locking horns. Sony is reinforcing its control arm with the mantra of anti-piracy. Meanwhile, Autonomous is on an rampage. The FBI is on a manhunt for the biggest most unknown form of cyber vigilantism in the 21st century. There's some heavy stuff going down right now. Why do I get the feeling that what happens in the coming months is going to mold the make-up of the internet in near future?

Did you mean Anonymous?

esperandote:
I think GeoHotz is going to need to resume the donation.

Firia:
Sony and Geohot are locking horns. Sony is reinforcing its control arm with the mantra of anti-piracy. Meanwhile, Autonomous is on an rampage. The FBI is on a manhunt for the biggest most unknown form of cyber vigilantism in the 21st century. There's some heavy stuff going down right now. Why do I get the feeling that what happens in the coming months is going to mold the make-up of the internet in near future?

Did you mean Anonymous?

damn auto correction. :P Yes. That's who I meant.

manythings:

poiumty:
Man, Sony's ass is bleeding hard. Still under the impression that every pirated copy equals a lost sale?

Even if one in ten (or a hundred) pirated copies are the only real lost sales that still adds up to... fuck knows but it's probably a lot. Why wouldn't they try to get their hands on that money?

There's also other factors, like piracy contributing to publicity and so on.

But the real reason is that there's a risk involved. You're investing in this huge team with no knowledge of whether they'll do anything useful in the future or not.

this kinda worries me. i'm not sure why though, I don't pirate and i don't own a PS3.

Watch this and learn Sony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI

Downloaded pirate games do not lose you money, if you stopped piracy, you'll get $0, because those pirates wouldn't have bought your stuff anyways. Infact, Sony should start sueing GameFly and other rental services for actually allowing people to *gasp*, play games without buying them!

The saddest part is this crusade againsta piracy is likely costing a Fortune for Sony. The very fortune they're trying to avoid losing. Not to mention piracy can't be stopped, only circumvented

I am perfectly fine with punishing piracy.

BUT MAKE DAMN SURE THE PUNSIHMENT FITS THE CRIME!

Suing someone for 1000$ over piracy. Justifiable.

Suing someone for 10000$ over piracy. Only in extreme cases.

Suing someone for 100000$ over piracy? Inexcusable.

Don´t ruin people´s life for a relatively minor crime. Please Sony.

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