LG Suit Forces Seizure of Thousands of PS3s

LG Suit Forces Seizure of Thousands of PS3s

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After European courts approved a 10 day injunction against importing new PS3s into Europe, tens of thousands of the consoles were seized in the Netherlands by customs officials.

Due to litigation by LG Electronics claiming that Sony Blu-Ray players, including those built into the PS3, infringe on 4 of its patents, no PS3s will be imported into the European continent for at least 10 days, maybe more. The first batch of impounded PS3s are being held until the injunction expires, and with only about 2 weeks worth of stockpiled consoles left on the continent, things are looking dire for Sony.

The trouble started when Sony began making claims that several of LG's smartphones infringed on Sony patents, and called for their sale to be banned in the US. LG counter-sued in the US, and began asking the International Trade Commission to ban the sales of PS3s and other Sony products in the US. It then went to European courts to ask the same thing, and after a preliminary hearing, the court ordered an injunction against the import of any more Sony Blu-Ray players, PS3 included.

For Sony, which imports about 100,000 consoles into Europe a week, this news is disastrous. The company may attempt to appeal the ruling in European courts, but LG also has the option to try and get the 10 day injunction extended, and could even try to have all the impounded consoles destroyed, though that is rather unlikely.

Both Sony and LG have refused to comment on the matter.

Source: The Guardian via MCV

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Ouch, very nasty of LG. That shall keep the European PS3 fanboys at bay for at least 2 weeks :D

Sony started it...LG continued it...I love both of these companies (I own a lot of their products) but damn...patent trolls.

This isn't good for Sony. It's a good thing I like my Xbox a whole lot better. I was planning on getting an NGP, but if business keeps going bad for Sony, I may not.

Then again, with portables it's usually wiser to wait a year or two for the new model with all the features it should have had on it in the first place.

Its kinda funny to see Sony on the wrong end of a lawsuit.

oh for god's sake this is just childish. Both companies are making money hand over fist, why on earth are they squabbling over f'ing patents?

I can't help but wonder if GeoHot is enjoying this news considering that Sony did the same thing to a bunch of his stuff.

KeyMaster45:
oh for god's sake this is just childish. Both companies are making money hand over fist, why on earth are they squabbling over f'ing patents?

that is the entire point of making money, is to spend it on frivolous things such as lawsuits.

also, INB4 EUROPE IS NOTHING BUT XBOTS!

but yea, silly lawsuits by silly companies over silly things.

Seriously. Banning PS3's? LG is gonna have a lot of cocktails thrown through their windows.

Think LG just called Sony's bluff

KeyMaster45:
oh for god's sake this is just childish. Both companies are making money hand over fist, why on earth are they squabbling over f'ing patents?

Not sure about LG, but not so much for Sony last I checked. 437,000,000 loss last year, 1,002,000,000 loss the year before.

Sony has not turned a profit in years, the PS3 is bleeding them dry. Also with them losing more TV market share every year as well, they need to smarten the hell up and stop that mentality of "it's Sony...they will buy it".

I'm still an Xbox guy, but they need to smarten up

uto

Cousin_IT:
Think LG just called Sony's bluff

And they won too for now. Love it, Sony deserved it.

We need Sony more than LG. Seriously, everything LG does Samsung handily one ups. So if you call yourself a gamer, start stuffing LG's corporate letter box with threats to boycott their products. Fight for your games.

Also, iirc, a couple of years ago, some stupid Californian company happened to purchase a patent from Pioneer, I believe, and then took Sony to court over patent infringement over the bluray. The patent, of course, was extremely vague. Literally, the patent's description was for an optical, double-sided, disc-based storage medium. As in CDs, MDs, DVDs, HD-DVDs, blurays and probably the UMD as well. The second they got their hands on it, they went straight for Sony. Pretty sure those trash poachers lost the case.

Man, that bluray has proved itself ridiculous amounts of legal trouble.

Illyasviel:
We need Sony more than LG. Seriously, everything LG does Samsung handily one ups. So if you call yourself a gamer, start stuffing LG's corporate letter box with threats to boycott their products. Fight for your games.

Also, iirc, a couple of years ago, some stupid Californian company happened to purchase a patent from Pioneer, I believe, and then took Sony to court over patent infringement over the bluray. The patent, of course, was extremely vague. Literally, the patent's description was for an optical, double-sided, disc-based storage medium. As in CDs, MDs, DVDs, HD-DVDs, blurays and probably the UMD as well. The second they got their hands on it, they went straight for Sony. Pretty sure those trash poachers lost the case.

Man, that bluray has proved itself ridiculous amounts of legal trouble.

It's the next thing so everyone wants a piece of that pie. Funny fact; the reason BluRay has won out? The pornography industy picked it.

manythings:
It's the next thing so everyone wants a piece of that pie. Funny fact; the reason BluRay has won out? The pornography industy picked it.

The pornography industry initially, very adamantly, supported HD-DVD.

That said, the pornography industry's last second change of allegiance was definitely the nail in the coffin.

But that's besides the point.

If you call yourself a gamer, even if you don't identify with the Playstation brand, tell LG to keep their noses out. This three way fight we got going between Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony? Its very, very good, and we, the consumers, benefit the most from it. We kinda need Sony. LG, on the other hand, is just little Samsung.

Sony had it coming...

but this could negatively affect the 360 and Wii in the long run too if LG wins it out...potentially

manythings:

Illyasviel:
We need Sony more than LG. Seriously, everything LG does Samsung handily one ups. So if you call yourself a gamer, start stuffing LG's corporate letter box with threats to boycott their products. Fight for your games.

Also, iirc, a couple of years ago, some stupid Californian company happened to purchase a patent from Pioneer, I believe, and then took Sony to court over patent infringement over the bluray. The patent, of course, was extremely vague. Literally, the patent's description was for an optical, double-sided, disc-based storage medium. As in CDs, MDs, DVDs, HD-DVDs, blurays and probably the UMD as well. The second they got their hands on it, they went straight for Sony. Pretty sure those trash poachers lost the case.

Man, that bluray has proved itself ridiculous amounts of legal trouble.

It's the next thing so everyone wants a piece of that pie. Funny fact; the reason BluRay has won out? The pornography industy picked it.

The staple of tech is decided by porn. God bless the porn industry.

Oh, LG I would be very, very, VERY paranoid right now if I were you. Not of Sony, because they can't "do" anything, but of the tens of thousands of gamers you have just ticked off--whether they have a PS3 or not. I give it two days before their websites are hacked, buildings vandalized, death threats sent, and all around bad stuff starts going down. Remember, many gamers also qualify as hackers. Start worrying.

Straying Bullet:

Cousin_IT:
Think LG just called Sony's bluff

And they won too for now. Love it, Sony deserved it.

Sorry but havent won anything its like saying just because a person is in jail before trail starts due to not getting bail. This probably take either a very short time or years to sort.

LG should have just sued the poop out of Sony instead seizing sales. That way LG can leech off Sony's income. LG isn't being evil enough in this situation.

*Looks at last LG appliance/electronics purchases*

LG, please SHUT UP.

Sorry, but I don't think LG can do anything to compensate for the noise trauma caused by their vapid "eco-friendly alert system" that is an obnoxious siren if you leave your fridge open for more than LG's designated period. And all of my cellular LG experiences have been frustration-laden to say the least. So again, shut up LG, just shut up.

I never would be bothering with Blu-Ray if it weren't for my PS3, and I guarantee that an LG logo would do nothing to persuade me of Blu's worthiness.

Illyasviel:

If you call yourself a gamer, even if you don't identify with the Playstation brand, tell LG to keep their noses out. This three way fight we got going between Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony? Its very, very good, and we, the consumers, benefit the most from it.

Actually, not owning a console, it would benefit me tremendously if the PS3 tanked. Microsoft would stop trying to compete with them by sabotaging our platform. Devs would also stop shitting around with us if they lose the sales from an entire platform and suddenly PC sales make a large part of their revenues. Also, Atlus might start releasing titles for the PC.

So yeah :P

Jesus Sony is just stepping in it all over the place. And by it i mean shit they left on the ground for others to step in.

*Insert PC elitist comment here*

But seriously, while I do laugh at sony for this, the prospect of destroying consoles (though it seems unlikely) is very daunting to me for some reason...

Raiyan 1.0:

Illyasviel:

If you call yourself a gamer, even if you don't identify with the Playstation brand, tell LG to keep their noses out. This three way fight we got going between Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony? Its very, very good, and we, the consumers, benefit the most from it.

Actually, not owning a console, it would benefit me tremendously if the PS3 tanked. Microsoft would stop trying to compete with them by sabotaging our platform. Devs would also stop shitting around with us if they lose the sales from an entire platform and suddenly PC sales make a large part of their revenues. Also, Atlus might start releasing titles for the PC.

So yeah :P

What? Did you just blame low PC game sales on the PS3? Bravo! Sony haters just got another excuse.

Anyways, I hope I have this right but, didn't Sony have a hand in developing Blu-ray? I understand the LG may have developed their own blu-ray tech, but it must sting for Sony to get sued for patent infringement on something you helped create.

Rofl LG is praying right now, why? If LG lose this case against sony which they will, more than likley, Sony are going to counter sue again for loss of the sales over that 10 day period and LG will basically end up behind again. Its also funny reading all the anti sony comments and wanting the ps3 to tank out. Loseing a competitor is nothing good for ANY industry. The less companys you have the less quality the product is, and also the games. People in small towns or country area's know that for things like cable internet etc If they just have 1 choice that company charges what they want, when you have 3+ companys prices go down or you get More for the same cost.

mjc0961:
I can't help but wonder if GeoHot is enjoying this news considering that Sony did the same thing to a bunch of his stuff.

He is. Live by lawsuits, die by lawsuits. My LG TV and PS3 still talk to each other, though :) Good thing the PS3 is in a borg communication inhibition field, considering it sends the TV model to Sony normally.

Well, Sony must really be regretting bothering to try and sue LG for a few smart phones now... XD

manythings:
Funny fact; the reason BluRay has won out? The pornography industy picked it.

Ninjad?

You certain? I thought the porn industry picked HD DVD, but lost anyway. 6 years ago, no one was really going to pay $1K for something that DVD upscaled to 1080i could do almost as well for $50.

I think the PS3 won the war for their format.

Now Bluray players and media are becoming affordable. Sigh. Now 3d. Then, I've heard rather than 1080p standard, we can look forward to 4K.

OT: When vendors are hurt, consumers follow. Even if you don't own Sony products, watch for Xbox to decide they can hose you whenever they like as at this time, there is no viable HD alternative.

This is bad for gamers.

supersilva:
Rofl LG is praying right now, why? If LG lose this case against sony which they will, more than likley, Sony are going to counter sue again for loss of the sales over that 10 day period and LG will basically end up behind again. Its also funny reading all the anti sony comments and wanting the ps3 to tank out. Loseing a competitor is nothing good for ANY industry. The less companys you have the less quality the product is, and also the games. People in small towns or country area's know that for things like cable internet etc If they just have 1 choice that company charges what they want, when you have 3+ companys prices go down or you get More for the same cost.

Excellent analysis. Hear hear.

montopolis:

Raiyan 1.0:

Illyasviel:

If you call yourself a gamer, even if you don't identify with the Playstation brand, tell LG to keep their noses out. This three way fight we got going between Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony? Its very, very good, and we, the consumers, benefit the most from it.

Actually, not owning a console, it would benefit me tremendously if the PS3 tanked. Microsoft would stop trying to compete with them by sabotaging our platform. Devs would also stop shitting around with us if they lose the sales from an entire platform and suddenly PC sales make a large part of their revenues. Also, Atlus might start releasing titles for the PC.

So yeah :P

What? Did you just blame low PC game sales on the PS3? Bravo! Sony haters just got another excuse.

Aren't you quick to jump to conclusions? Where exactly have I been showing any 'Sony hatred'? Have I been cheering LG at any point?

What I pointed out was that if the PS3 tanked (highly unlikely), PC sales would make a larger percentage of developers' revenues - while their net revenue will decrease. Previously console-only titles would have to be ported to the PC to make up for the lost revenues (looking at you Assault Horizon and Catherine). And if you look at my post, you'll see Microsoft-hatred, not Sony-hatred - I don't like how MS is paying devs to to keep titles XBox-exclusives just to compete with Sony.

And low PC sales? That has nothing to do with anything. Look at Dice - how did they treat us for propping up their main franchise and for being the largest portion of the BFBC2's sales? By keepin BF1943 a console exclusive, obviously. Or BioShock 2's DLC shenanigan - releasing a PC version a year later than the console version, and not even making sure it actually worked. Or Bulletstorm's demo coming after the game was released.

It's a fact. If the XBox or PS3 is gone, it would bring nothing but benevolence to PC gamers. But hell, I didn't even say I wanted them to tank in my original post. Infact, I actually want a PS3. What I simply stated in my original post was the hard truth.

Raiyan 1.0:

Aren't you quick to jump to conclusions? Where exactly have I been showing any 'Sony hatred'? Have I been cheering LG at any point?

What I pointed out was that if the PS3 tanked (highly unlikely), PC sales would make a larger percentage of developers' revenues - while their net revenue will decrease. Previously console-only titles would have to be ported to the PC to make up for the lost revenues (looking at you Assault Horizon and Catherine). And if you look at my post, you'll see Microsoft-hatred, not Sony-hatred - I don't like how MS is paying devs to to keep titles XBox-exclusives just to compete with Sony.

And low PC sales? That has nothing to do with anything. Look at Dice - how did they treat us for propping up their main franchise and for being the largest portion of the BFBC2's sales? By keepin BF1943 a console exclusive, obviously. Or BioShock 2's DLC shenanigan - releasing a PC version a year later than the console version, and not even making sure it actually worked. Or Bulletstorm's demo coming after the game was released.

It's a fact. If the XBox or PS3 is gone, it would bring nothing but benevolence to PC gamers. But hell, I didn't even say I wanted them to tank in my original post. Infact, I actually want a PS3. What I simply stated in my original post was the hard truth.

Oh, its all good dude. I misunderstood, I didn't mean to jump to conclusions. Its just that the way it read to me, it sounded like a new excuse to hate on the PS3. I'm glad you clarified your point for me, it does make sense. I am not a PC gamer and own both consoles, so I benefit most from their competition.

montopolis:

Oh, its all good dude. I misunderstood, I didn't mean to jump to conclusions. Its just that the way it read to me, it sounded like a new excuse to hate on the PS3. I'm glad you clarified your point for me, it does make sense. I am not a PC gamer and own both consoles, so I benefit most from their competition.

Nah, it's all fine. I do understand that some people tend to be pointlessly antagonistic - it's silly to lay the blame on consoles when it's clearly the publishers and devs shafting the PC. I don't expect the entire console market to make itself, I dunno... disappear to solve this issue - I expect the developers to start giving a damn about our platform again. I guess I didn't get my point across clearly on my first post. And yes, while the console wars don't have any effect on the PC, I guess it does create healthy competition amongst the consoles manufacturers themselves.

 

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