No Online Pass for Crysis 2

No Online Pass for Crysis 2

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Crytek has confirmed that Crysis 2 won't make use of Electronic Arts' controversial Online Pass program.

Gamertag Radio reported last week that Crysis 2, the forthcoming shooter from Crytek, won't use Online Pass, EA's prepaid DLC system that encourages gamers to buy new copies of videogames rather than used. The dev told the site that because Crytek is part of the EA Partners program rather than an internal EA studio, it has the option to pass on the Pass.

He said the studio did so for two reasons: because Online Pass was still a new system when it was offered and Crytek didn't want its game to be a "testbed," and because it expects that Crysis 2 will be the first dance with a Crytek game for most console gamers and doesn't want anything to keep them from any part of the experience.

Crytek made it official today with a short statement saying, "All we can say/confirm is that we aren't using Online Pass for Crysis 2."

Online Pass and similar programs aim to keep gamers away from the pre-owned market by offering extra content or access to features like online play free with new copies of games but at an extra cost for used. THQ used the system for multiplayer access in UFC Undisputed 2010 with less-than-optimal results, while EA has had somewhat more success with it in games like Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age: Origins.

Crysis 2 hits store shelves on March 22 for the PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

Source: CVG

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It's good to see that EA isn't forcing it down their throats, rather letting them choose. I think it's also probably because EA doesn't want to lose sales on a big multiplayer game.

Good thinking EA, long term strategy.

You know, it does bug me that people have started bashing on EA again as being terrible monsters, and totally ignore EA Partners.

Good on them. Using DLC to try and stop pirates is fine, but doing it to 'encourage' people to buy new rather than used is a tad shite. I can understand used sales don't do anything for the dev's finances but some people can't fork out £40/50 for a brand new console copy and prefer to wait for a second hand version. Personally I do buy new copies, partly because I'm fickle and like 'new game' smell and partly because I'm a PC gamer and we don't really have a second hand market to go to.

That's all well and good, but how do we know it's going to work?
The online demo on PC isn't working. You can't even register. It's retarded.
-Tabs<3-

If only the MP didn't suck ass....

I'd rather EA just handle FPS online like they did with BRBC2. Offer VIP maps to retail purchasers.

Great! Now if they would just drop the price of the PC version down to where it should be and I'd buy it.

tehroc:
I'd rather EA just handle FPS online like they did with BRBC2. Offer VIP maps to retail purchasers.

What's BRBC2?

/smug

OT: Meh, I've never really cared about the online pass stuff.

ultrachicken:

tehroc:
I'd rather EA just handle FPS online like they did with BRBC2. Offer VIP maps to retail purchasers.

What's BRBC2?

/smug

OT: Meh, I've never really cared about the online pass stuff.

Bloody Rampage Brutal Carnage 2, the new Hello Kitty Online addon that adds horses... or something like that. ;)

OT: Now they just need to fix the damned MP on PC... it's like playing on a console, just with keyboard and mouse. You can't join games in progress, the dedicated servers start a game only if its full and stuff like that.... it's horrible.

By the way, the Crysis 2 link in the last line of the article leads to DA:O on Amazon, not Crysis 2.

Daedalus1942:
That's all well and good, but how do we know it's going to work?
The online demo on PC isn't working. You can't even register. It's retarded.
-Tabs<3-

Make an account on Fileplanet, log in with that.

TheEggplant:
Great! Now if they would just drop the price of the PC version down to where it should be and I'd buy it.

Its £30.

I really don't understand why Online Pass has such a negative reaction from people. In the US the difference for new and pre-owned is what? $10 between them I'm guessing? To me, the difference between $60 and $50 is negligible.

Still as most of us know, Australians and New Zealanders are a little more opened minded to the prices that are paid in the US.

LavaLampBamboo:
It's good to see that EA isn't forcing it down their throats, rather letting them choose. I think it's also probably because EA doesn't want to lose sales on a big multiplayer game.

I'm not an EA hater (almost quite the opposite actually), but I'm not sure it's as much of a "not forcing down their throats" as it is a "are not able to force it down their throats". As they've pointed out, they're a partner and not an internal studio, which is why they have the option to not use it.

Mazty:
If only the MP didn't suck ass....

Always needs to be a troll on a EA post..

Good for them. That still doesn't excuse them charging $60 for the PC version and giving upfront multiplayer access exclusively to xbox users.

Oh and to play the PC demo you have to make a stupid online gamespy account, aka another piece of crap that doesn't work properly and makes you join another service that you will never use outside the game. What, they couldn't just use Steam, which I downloaded the f'ing demo from?

Serving UpSmiles:

Mazty:
If only the MP didn't suck ass....

Always needs to be a troll on a EA post..

Or how about the radical idea that I do believe that the MP is so f**king bad that this revelation is somewhat hollow? That really so hard to believe?

N3vans:
Good on them. Using DLC to try and stop pirates is fine, but doing it to 'encourage' people to buy new rather than used is a tad shite.

Why did you bring Piracy into the picture? DLC isn't intended to stop piracy in any way (because pirates can get DLC anyway the same way they always do: pirate it).

DLC is about making paying customers pay more. Piracy has nothing to do with it.

since when did we have to pay for online features anyway?
EA is the end of decent gaming i swear.

Athinira:

N3vans:
Good on them. Using DLC to try and stop pirates is fine, but doing it to 'encourage' people to buy new rather than used is a tad shite.

Why did you bring Piracy into the picture? DLC isn't intended to stop piracy in any way (because pirates can get DLC anyway the same way they always do: pirate it).

DLC is about making paying customers pay more. Piracy has nothing to do with it.

No it is about making you EA customers instead of Gamestop's or a reasonable facimile. It is about making Gamestop's (or reasonable facimile) pay more for not buying it new and not being EA's customers. It is about getting money to the people who made the game the money instead of some parasitic corporation who is making money by offering low trade in credit and selling high and almost ripping off everyone involved except the guy who saves a few bucks. If you are an EA customer then guess what you don't pay more. You pay what it is worth.

Adzma:
I really don't understand why Online Pass has such a negative reaction from people. In the US the difference for new and pre-owned is what? $10 between them I'm guessing? To me, the difference between $60 and $50 is negligible.

Still as most of us know, Australians and New Zealanders are a little more opened minded to the prices that are paid in the US.

In Canada the difference between a new game and a used game is 5 bucks at my local gamestop. Although if you buy used and have the card you do save an extra 13% cause you don't pay the tax.

TheEldestScroll:
since when did we have to pay for online features anyway?
EA is the end of decent gaming i swear.

Dead space 2 and Bulletstorm both have an online pass. It is in the package if you buy it new. So you only pay if you buy it used.

squid5580:

Athinira:

DLC is about making paying customers pay more. Piracy has nothing to do with it.

No it is about making you EA customers instead of Gamestop's or a reasonable facimile. It is about making Gamestop's (or reasonable facimile) pay more for not buying it new and not being EA's customers.

Aka. making people pay EA more money, just like i said.

The problem here is that you are only talking about the "free" DLC that comes if you buy the game from EA. Thats not the only kind of DLC EA offers. They offer plenty of other DLC that even directly paying customers have to pay for (not that there is anything wrong with doing that except that i heavily despise "Day One" DLC that costs money). And even then, the goal is still the same: To make people pay us.

squid5580:
It is about getting money to the people who made the game the money instead of some parasitic corporation who is making money by offering low trade in credit and selling high and almost ripping off everyone involved except the guy who saves a few bucks.

Resales happens outside of Gamestop. In fact, Gamestop until recently didn't even exist in my country (and still doesn't exist in many countries and areas).

Athinira:

squid5580:

Athinira:

DLC is about making paying customers pay more. Piracy has nothing to do with it.

No it is about making you EA customers instead of Gamestop's or a reasonable facimile. It is about making Gamestop's (or reasonable facimile) pay more for not buying it new and not being EA's customers.

Aka. making people pay EA more money, just like i said.

The problem here is that you are only talking about the "free" DLC that comes if you buy the game from EA. Thats not the only kind of DLC EA offers. They offer plenty of other DLC that even directly paying customers have to pay for (not that there is anything wrong with doing that except that i heavily despise "Day One" DLC that costs money). And even then, the goal is still the same: To make people pay us.

squid5580:
It is about getting money to the people who made the game the money instead of some parasitic corporation who is making money by offering low trade in credit and selling high and almost ripping off everyone involved except the guy who saves a few bucks.

Resales happens outside of Gamestop. In fact, Gamestop until recently didn't even exist in my country (and still doesn't exist in many countries and areas).

Correction EA is making you pay EA money. More involves you paid them something in the first place. And if you need to buy the code YOU DIDN'T!!!!

squid5580:
Correction EA is making you pay EA money. More involves you paid them something in the first place. And if you need to buy the code YOU DIDN'T!!!!

I'll repeat again: I never, in my original post, insinuated that i was only talking about the free DLC for paying customers. I was talking about DLC in general, including day-one DLC and DLC made later in the games lifecycle.

And even then, the free DLC is also made to make "more money". You see, the original game being bought in the first place also buys the free DLC (which therefore technically isn't free. Rather, it's just "part of the package", meaning that it's actually bought). The idea then is that EA is not restricting resale of the game, but resale of the DLC (aka. you can't buy the DLC unless you also sell your EA account).

Example: Person 1 buys the game from EA and therefore also buys the DLC (as a part of the package deal). Person 2 later buys the game from person 1, but since he can't buy the DLC, he has to buy that seperately.

End result is that the game has been bought from EA once, but that the DLC has been bought twice. Long story short: The DLC was created to make EA more money.

Athinira:

squid5580:
Correction EA is making you pay EA money. More involves you paid them something in the first place. And if you need to buy the code YOU DIDN'T!!!!

I'll repeat again: I never, in my original post, insinuated that i was only talking about the free DLC for paying customers. I was talking about DLC in general, including day-one DLC and DLC made later in the games lifecycle.

And even then, the free DLC is also made to make "more money". You see, the original game being bought in the first place also buys the free DLC (which therefore technically isn't free. Rather, it's just "part of the package", meaning that it's actually bought). The idea then is that EA is not restricting resale of the game, but resale of the DLC (aka. you can't buy the DLC unless you also sell your EA account).

Example: Person 1 buys the game from EA and therefore also buys the DLC (as a part of the package deal). Person 2 later buys the game from person 1, but since he can't buy the DLC, he has to buy that seperately.

End result is that the game has been bought from EA once, but that the DLC has been bought twice. Long story short: The DLC was created to make EA more money.

Well done. You have stated what the EA CEO said right from the start about project $10 and outlined every good business model which is OMG to make money. I know shocking right? So where is your beef exactly? You don't want companies to make money? You would rather they didn't profit to I dunno make more games in the future? You do know that if they don't make them then no one can resell them right?

lol i stand corrected. EA is the end of decent gaming.
i guess i wouldn't mind anyway because they always lean toward mediocre games that i don't think to buy in the first place.

and even though mass effect was good i only borrowed it because EA doesn't need more money before it decides to do something ridiculous and irresponsible with my hard earned cash, those bastards...
oh wait.

...and because after the initial game was leaked, to punish the people who actually obtained the legitimate copies we need to make the game pay off on its investment of time and money would be both evil and stupid...

Well, they are only partners... EA can't force anything on them anyway.

squid5580:

Athinira:
[quote="N3vans" post="7.269147.10323362"]Good on them. Using DLC to try and stop pirates is fine, but doing it to 'encourage' people to buy new rather than used is a tad shite.

Why did you bring Piracy into the picture? DLC isn't intended to stop piracy in any way (because pirates can get DLC anyway the same way they always do: pirate it).

DLC is about making paying customers pay more. Piracy has nothing to do with it.

Haha, having re-read what I said yesterday I had 'DRM' in my head not 'DLC'. Apologies, I only skim read it the first time.

Is it me, or are people misusing the term DLC all the freaking time? The Online Pass isn't "DLC", it's a coupon for a service. Content that is on the disk that still needs to be paid for isn't "DLC".

TheEggplant:
Great! Now if they would just drop the price of the PC version down to where it should be and I'd buy it.

Cost 300kr which is around $40 so Its quite cheap imo..

Tubez:

Cost 300kr which is around $40 so Its quite cheap imo..

Good for you. In the U.S. it's $59.99. Just because they can.

I've never understood the rabid opposition apparent in so many people to companies making money. So what if they do? That's why they're in business. I still see no problem at all with Online Pass programs, barring cases like THQ's inexcusable botching of the UFC Undisputed launch.

Admission of bias, however: I'm exclusively a PC gamer and nobody around here deals used PC games anymore anyway, so it's not as though the issue really impacts me one way or the other.

Andy Chalk:
it expects that Crysis 2 will be the first dance with a Crytek game for most console gamers and doesn't want anything to keep them from any part of the experience.

Um, wasn't Far Cry on Xbox? And wasn't there quite a few spin-offs that landed on the console, too?

 

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