Large Hadron Collider Could Be World's First Time Machine

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I don't even watch Doctor Who and the opening theme started playing in my head.

phoenix352:

AmrasCalmacil:
Part of me doesn't like the sound of this. Personally I'd rather leave time travel to The Doctor.

At least we're not gonna send anyone through it to mess up history.

sending anything can get the same result ....
if i send a message to say 1937 and tell them .. kill this Hitler fellow , hes a douche in the making. the entire earth will change.

time travel is just a big ass paradox , also if this is a potential time machine in Theory the fact that we have no messages from the future at this very moment proves we dont invent a time machine ever...

Well to be able to send messages you might need a machine that can recieve them. This would explain why we haven't sent messages back in time yet as we can only send them back to the point when we first created the machine.

Not possible. If it was, we'd have been seeing mysterious messages appearing everywhere for the last however-many-years.

Tom Goldman:
just having a time "mailbox" might not be so bad, as long as we can keep it free of spam.

Oh dear lord:

To: Swollen Goat
Re: You're going to want a larger penis in fifteen years!

But Publisher's Clearing House can keep their slogan. "You may have already won a million dollars!" LITERALLY

Time Travel is more complicated than the classic "I can go back and watch the past in person" assumption. It doesn't work that way, the past is inviolate.

this isnt my name:

Agreed if time travel were possible we would know becuase time travelers would be here.

No, because we could logically only encounter time travelers after the first successful attempt at traveling through time.
That is, assuming time is linear.
I'll just stop now before I start bleeding from my ears.

The next time machine huh?

I think I read about this sometime next week...

Why do I feel like people will use this to send prank "calls" through time?

Shiftysnowdog:
They are wrong in saying that it does not have any paradoxes. If we send a message to the past, that says, "kill baby Hitler" then our time line would be forever different.

Also, as Carl Sagan once said, it is almost certain that time travel cannot exist. If time travel were possible we would have been visited by a future person already detailing how to make such a machine, or what to look out for. The same can be said about the messages. If this really is possible, then how come we haven't got messages yet? All they have to say is, ok, lets set up a camera to capture the messages in this ONE spot, forever. It will ALWAYS be in THIS spot at exactly 12 midnight from NOW ON. Then all they would have to do, is set up that camera, and wait for the future people to send a message to that spot. Tickle me retarded, but this isn't possible.

Actually i remember watching a documentary more than a year ago, detailing how time travel is theoretically possible by creating a loop in time, this however would mean be can only travel as far back as when the machine was first turned on.

phoenix352:

AmrasCalmacil:
Part of me doesn't like the sound of this. Personally I'd rather leave time travel to The Doctor.

At least we're not gonna send anyone through it to mess up history.

sending anything can get the same result ....
if i send a message to say 1937 and tell them .. kill this Hitler fellow , hes a douche in the making. the entire earth will change.

time travel is just a big ass paradox , also if this is a potential time machine in Theory the fact that we have no messages from the future at this very moment proves we dont invent a time machine ever...

Or they made it and decided not to use it, Or sent a letter to someone a year from now, OR they sent a letter and no one ever got it or just threw it out.... Just throwing those out there lol

Shiftysnowdog:
They are wrong in saying that it does not have any paradoxes. If we send a message to the past, that says, "kill baby Hitler" then our time line would be forever different.

Also, as Carl Sagan once said, it is almost certain that time travel cannot exist. If time travel were possible we would have been visited by a future person already detailing how to make such a machine, or what to look out for. The same can be said about the messages. If this really is possible, then how come we haven't got messages yet? All they have to say is, ok, lets set up a camera to capture the messages in this ONE spot, forever. It will ALWAYS be in THIS spot at exactly 12 midnight from NOW ON. Then all they would have to do, is set up that camera, and wait for the future people to send a message to that spot. Tickle me retarded, but this isn't possible.

we haven't got the technology to receive said message. Remember this works on the principal that we could detect theoretical particles.

I remember my physics tearcher talking about the LHC all that time when I was in sixth form and kept on saying that it was deleyed by a part the that the americans didnt build properly, which delayed it by 2 years or somthing. Then all the fools saying it would make a black hole that would kill us all. There is not enough energy in the LHC for such things and the tiny black hole that may be produced would consume itself in mili-seconds. Bloody conspiracy theorists that know nothing of the reality of physics.

No no no no no! Leave time travel alone! If the Prince of Persia Sands of Time trilogy (or any sci-fi you care to name for that matter) has taught us anything it's that time travel causes far more problems than it solves.

This would be cool, but I could see it going horribly wrong too. Some mad scientist villains will sprawl up and try to capture it for their diabolical plans!

DeadlyYellow:
I believe that if it worked, it would already have happened. Either that or tear the universe.

Science: Continually striving to DOOM US ALL.

I like this tag line lol

This is going to screw up alot of lottery rules and regulations.

FlashHero:
If they can send a message then wouldn't they need the equipment necessary to read it?...in that case that means the LHC of the future can send back messages to itself and that means that maybe the future has been waiting for us to invent the way to receive the messages?

This was exactly what i was thinking. We would need the working LHC to get the messages so that means future us is waiting for past us to make it. but it would already be made so they would be getting messages back and forth and...*sigh* paradox achieved brain does not compute

surely the concept of a "first" time machine is a flawed one...

Tom Goldman:
While humanity may never get an actual time machine, just having a time "mailbox" might not be so bad, as long as we can keep it free of spam.

ATTENTION ESCAPISTS

I am an American Prince from the year 2433, and I have an important message. Do you have $10,000 dollars I can borrow to get my dad out of jail? I'll pay you back ten-fold, honest.

I don't believe any messages to the past will succeed or have any impact on us now, primarily because it depends on a predetermined future and between entropy and chaos theory I don't believe there is a predetermined future. Of course that's my opinion and I don't have the scientific backing in theoretical physics to make any substantial claims to this effect, so it could be possible the future is predetermined or that there are infinite futures endlessly branching off from one another or anything in between. Of course I'm biased too, I would very much like to have control over my future.

Any messages of substance immediately contradict their purpose in sending anyway. Say you sent a message with all the outcomes of the research from the LHC experiments back to yourself before you began (most people should know where this is going), because this now means you no longer run the experiments, the results are never formulated and you never send them to yourself. So nothing would happen.

What if this is what Ghost are. We actually learned how to send things in the past in the future, so people are playing jokes on us by pretending to be "ghost".

I dont believe that time machines exist, why didnt anyone from the future came back ang gave us a time machine? It would make every thing much more easy. They come to the past with future technology and then go back to their future, their future will be more developed since time went by with the technology that they provided us with.

The only way backwards time-travel could work without any paradoxes is if you actually travelled to an alternate dimension. Travelling back to where you came from would just bring you right back to where you started.

The other dimension will know what it was like to not have Hitler or Stalin, but yours will still have that piece of history and will never, ever go away.

Though I also read once that Stephen Hawking believes that there are mini worm-holes all throughout the universe. They're not big enough for anything more than maybe one atom to travel through though. Though Hawking also points out that if it were possible to expand them, we might be able to have instant-travel systems in the future.

Farewell causality, we hardly knew ye.

Seriously, I can't even begin to wrap my head around the implications this might have.

phoenix352:

AmrasCalmacil:
Part of me doesn't like the sound of this. Personally I'd rather leave time travel to The Doctor.

At least we're not gonna send anyone through it to mess up history.

sending anything can get the same result ....
if i send a message to say 1937 and tell them .. kill this Hitler fellow , hes a douche in the making. the entire earth will change.

time travel is just a big ass paradox , also if this is a potential time machine in Theory the fact that we have no messages from the future at this very moment proves we dont invent a time machine ever...

Nooo... that function has not been turned on. The singlet has not yet been found, and the machine has not been calibrated to send or receive them as messages. Until that happens we WON'T receive messages. We'll know whether it works or not the instant we turn it on, because messages from the future should arrive immediately.

Well, who's up for destroying the LHC? I just know some asshole will stop WW2 with this. Thing is, if WW2 never happened, I wouldn't have been born. It may sound selfish, but I like existing.

Luddites unite!

END OF THE WORLD

There's only thing to say at a time like this...
WHAT HAS SCIENCE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE?!

...As fun as time travel is I'm pretty sure I'd fuck the world up...But at least we're one step closer to seeing if Jesus really did miracles or was just a bitching carpenter.

" Dear resident of 2011.

My name is Ubuntu Viagra Jones and I am the exiled prince of the United African Kingdom. My father, King Hardee Brawndo Jones saw fit to disown me over a disagreement on the woman I chose to marry. He stripped me of my birthright and locked me away from my inheritence. However before my exile I was able to hide a secret account from the kingdoms coffers worth roughly 3 trillion dollars. Here in the year 2111 that is a sizable sum, but I am certain in your time that is a vast sum of money.

Being exiled I cannot claim this money for myself, however you being of a different time line would have no difficulty in claiming this on my behalf. What I propose is for you to claim the funds by providing the bank a credit card for validation of active account status. Once that is completed the funds will be transfered into a secondary account that I can access and to reward you for your troubles I will distrubute half of the 3 trillion dollars back to you in your timeline. If we work together we can both stand to make a serious profit from a transaction that will only take seconds.

To process the transaction I will need you to submit your card info to me in order to begin the transaction. Please provide your card number, social security number for account verification and your home address in order to have your check mailed to you.

Thank you for listening to my story, and I look forward to a very lucrative partnership between us."

If it were possible when messages would have been sent to us.
Unless we're like the leading universe or something?

I don't think we're going to find the higgs.

I think we'll find something way cooler.

I'm not sure if this is fucking awesome or freaky.

Time travel will forever be impossible.
1. If you send a message into the past E.g. "Dont Burn the fossil fuels" The people in the past will go. Oh ok! lets listen to them. and never do it. But if they never do it that means there would be no point in sending the message there for the message will never be sent. AND it would only be possible to send the messages to the EXACT second the time machine was turned on. otherwise there would be no wormhole for the time message to travel to.
So say if your family member dies in a accident. you invent a time portal per say. you could never go back to save them because the time stream would only allow you to go back to the moment it was turned on. so IF we ever make one then the future messages will arrive. We will look at them. and wont be able to. it would be best for the world if this Tech was never invented. =/

I have one comment and one query.

Comment: Man cannot be trusted with the power of the space-time continuum. He will ultimately mishandle the power and it will consume him.

Query: Why has no one made a joke about the LHC needing 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity to power?

I guess I just did.

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