THQ: Homefront Is Not a 71

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THQ: Homefront Is Not a 71

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THQ Vice President Danny Bilson says you can't apply math to art but when it comes to Homefront, it's "clearly" better than a 71.

70. That's what THQ's near-future invasion drama Homefront has managed to ring up on Metacritic and while that's a fairly decent score by most real-world measures, when it comes to videogames it's, well, not. It's not an unmitigated disaster by any stretch but it's definitely not a critical success either, and worse, that distinctly sub-80 number is bound to put it beneath the notice of a lot of score-obsessed gamers.

But Bilson, who's been the driving force behind the game since he joined THQ in 2008, is pretty happy. "A million units in a week on an original IP coming out of nowhere I think speaks a lot to the concept and the marketing of the game," he told IGN. "I think we really captured people's imagination with the IP. I'm very proud [of] what the teams have done with that game."

The goal, he continued, was not to beat modern shooter behemoths like Call of Duty but just to get THQ "in the conversation" and in that regard, he described it as mission accomplished. "Everybody's talking about Homefront," he said.

"Do I prefer that it's controversial? No, I'd prefer if everybody in the world loved it," he continued. "But there are 20-plus reviews that are over 80, there are some haters, and there are some mid-range ones. Do I read them all to see what we can do better next time and have every review be 100? Of course, our goal is always that. What I will say pretty clearly is the game is not a 71. You can't apply math to art."

I wholeheartedly agree with that last statement, and I think that the fixation with applying scores to everything that moves has ultimately done more harm than good to the usefulness of videogame reviews over the years. So how about a more meaningful measure of success, then: will Homefront get a sequel?

"All I'm allowed to say is we have a lot of plans for the future of Homefront that we'll be rolling out over the next few months," Bilson said. "I have a lot of plans; they're pretty interesting and unique. We intend to grow the online multiplayer over the year with a robust downloadable content plan which we haven't announced yet. To be honest with you, I see Battlefield 3 on the horizon and the bar is going up. So we need to do some careful thinking on the production side because the competition looks amazing."

THQ announced that Homefront had broken the one million unit sales mark near the end of March. DLC updates are presumably in the works but no specifics have yet been mentioned.

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I believe they are right. . THQ is damn well good enough when they can compete with uhm. . . Medal of Honor! The new one that is. I mean they are usual not in the market so I would say they did pretty well. And his right, haters gonna hate.

Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

It wasn't until you nurfed the online play. Way to go in dumbing it down.

Homefront is art now?

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

But the Single player IS!
SERIOUSLY! The whole selling point was the 'controversial'/laughable storyline behind the game, and then they go and give us a campaign 4 HOURS LONG!?! And he wonders where all the hate is coming from.

Is a 7 bad or something?

Fucking hell, I've only read the first sentence and I'm cringing already.

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

Hilariously, as this fad has now taken over, we must actually view 7s as 'very meh', because reviewers award them as such.

Its a vicious circle of numerical nonsensicalness.

I would give Homefront an 80, not great *cough*singleplayer*caugh*, but its still fun MP wise.

Assassin Xaero:
It wasn't until you nurfed the online play. Way to go in dumbing it down.

What did they do, exactly?

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

Well since 5 would be average, 6 would be ok, 7 is good, 8 is really good, 9 is great and 10 is amazing.

Also I view numbers as a retarded system since they don't really weigh the factors. I prefer the old Siskel and Ebert thing and even then I don't really accept opinions from some guy at a magazine when I actually know some people who play games.

THQ you sold your game off as this awesome thing. Then your single player was not only short, but you played the Koreans as laughably evil. I was suspecting something on the real scale. Heard your online play was good though.

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

I know that bugs me alot if I a game is 5 out of 10 it is the equivalent to a 2 on a actual scale when it should be avarage.

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

You know, for someone who's tagline is "Your opinion is not fact"...

Well, I think you get my point.

manythings:

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

Well since 5 would be average, 6 would be ok, 7 is good, 8 is really good, 9 is great and 10 is amazing.

I'm actually nostalgic for the old Gamespot review system, from YEARS back...That actually kinda made sense. 6s weren't immediately dismissed as trash...

Onyx Oblivion:

manythings:

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

Well since 5 would be average, 6 would be ok, 7 is good, 8 is really good, 9 is great and 10 is amazing.

I'm actually nostalgic for the old Gamespot review system, from YEARS back...That actually kinda made sense. 6s weren't immediately dismissed as trash...

I ignore reviews anyway (unless they are seriously bad) since the opinion of someone I know trumps a guy who is paid to try a game and make up his own mind based on what he cares about in a game. For all I know he wants exactly the opposite of what I want.

-Drifter-:

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

You know, for someone who's tagline is "Your opinion is not fact"...

Well, I think you get my point.

This is not my opinion...That is fact. Homefront is a 71.

Anyway, that tagline is mainly pointed at the forums, where everyone seems to think that they can just say "x is bad, because x sucks"...without reasons that are anything more than pure opinion.

I don't give places like metacritic much consideration but from the reviews I've read Homefront is hardly stellar material.

Well, 'Hamlet' is about a 76, while Raphael's 'The Betrothal of the Virgin' is high 60s at best. I think THQ should be proud of Homefront's number, especially as a first-time release, though I worry what'll happen to their sales figures when more silver age latin poetry gets on the shelves, that stuff hits 95 on MetaRomaCritic regularly...

Cheers

Colin

Its funny, because if the game got a 90, you know they would plaster it in every advertisement they could.

Yup. He's right. It most definitely isn't a 71.

It was a miserable fucking 40.

A shameless CoD-clone without one jot of interest or originality. Just one more drip of grey water in the great river of dreary mediocrity. Not worthy of note even by the abysmally low standards of video games.

Bleh, I say. Bleh

how i a game that basically just varied what modern warfare an original IP?
this is not Killer 7, this is a "realistic" shooter in a contemporary setting.

Irridium:
Its funny, because if the game got a 90, you know they would plaster it in every advertisement they could.

These are the same people who took two words out of Russ P's largely negative review and put them on the release trailer...

Cheers

Colin

manythings:

I ignore reviews anyway (unless they are seriously bad) since the opinion of someone I know trumps a guy who is paid to try a game and make up his own mind based on what he cares about in a game. For all I know he wants exactly the opposite of what I want.

I've come to distrust user reviews MORE than professional reviews lately...As they tend to be extreme praise or extreme hate, in my experience. There are of course, exceptions. But it's easier to comb through the forest of professional reviews for quality, than it is to comb through infinite user reviews for quality.

Also, my best friend and I have drastically different gaming tastes.

I would have been more impressed with the game if they decided to put in a proper single player mode.

But they didnt, so im going to hover on the site waiting for Yahtzee to shred it tomorrow.

Dont act like he wouldnt, games like this are absolute gold for him.

Onyx Oblivion:

manythings:

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

Well since 5 would be average, 6 would be ok, 7 is good, 8 is really good, 9 is great and 10 is amazing.

I'm actually nostalgic for the old Gamespot review system, from YEARS back...That actually kinda made sense. 6s weren't immediately dismissed as trash...

They're quite confident that Homefront will become the next big thing aren't they?
Just seems very "meh" to me, and since 71 is a perfect "meh" score... sorry THQ.

zombie711:
Is a 7 bad or something?

The average scale seems to be 1-10. And how things work are 7 = meh, 8 = great, 9 = awesome, 10 = super-duper awesome!.

And everything below a 7 means the game is crap. And yes I'm aware of how completely stupid and destructive this is, but the vast majority of gamers don't seem to care.

"A million units in a week on an original IP coming out of nowhere I think speaks a lot to the concept and the marketing of the game," he told IGN. "I think we really captured people's imagination with the IP. I'm very proud [of] what the teams have done with that game."

OH PLEASE, get your head out of your ass. You made an FPS about WAR with MODERN GUNS and MULTIPLAYER. Don't pat yourself on the back for mooching off popular trends, or presume that your team is oh-so-special for it.

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

GameInformer and his daddy, Gamestop, that's why. They add 2-3 full points to the score of everything. I believe a 7.5 is "mediocre" in GameInformer-speak, which is funny because to a normal person 5 or maybe 6 would be considered mediocre.

Go ahead, THQ, cry more. It'll surely help.

Maybe you should have made a good game in the first place... just kidding, i know you are allergic all this "coming to work" and "actually doing something" crap.

WanderingFool:
I would give Homefront an 80, not great *cough*singleplayer*caugh*, but its still fun MP wise.

Assassin Xaero:
It wasn't until you nurfed the online play. Way to go in dumbing it down.

What did they do, exactly?

Probably easiest way to put it...
Prepatch - Like Call of Duty in hardcore mode
Postpatch - Like regular Call of Duty

Originally, people would die after a few bullets, but a lot of people complained. They nurfed the snipers (which were overpowered anyway), but they did something else that nurfed the rest of the guns. Not sure if it is lower damage or increased player health or what, but it isn't like it was prepatch.

Irridium:
Its funny, because if the game got a 90, you know they would plaster it in every advertisement they could.

Yup.

You can't apply math to art. That is, unless the results are good, in which case we'll totally run with the math.

Nope, 71 is being to generous, Homefront is more a 55-60, just slightly above average.

Onyx Oblivion:
Yes it is, THQ.

71 isn't bad.

WHY ARE REVIEWS NOW BASICALLY ON A SCALE OF 7-10?

Anything below a 7 is somehow shit-on-a-stick.

This is why.

Apologies for linking to TvTropes, but they explain it so well.

I love the juxtaposition of "Our goal is always to get a perfect score" and "You can't apply math to art." Numbers aren't important at all! Unless you give us GOOD numbers, that is. Then they're the only thing that matters.

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