Rumor: Nintendo's Project Cafe to Cost $400

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Rumor: Nintendo's Project Cafe to Cost $400

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Sources are claiming specific new information on Project Cafe's price, tech specs, and controllers.

Rumors saying that Nintendo will be announcing a new console at E3 2011 are barely more than a week old, but alleged details on the system are already pouring in. The latest anonymous information on the device dubbed "Project Cafe" says that it'll start out at a price around $400 and won't necessarily stick with a single, primary controller type.

IGN reports that "sources with knowledge of the project" say Project Cafe will be priced at between $350 to $400 at launch. This would put it right up there with the Xbox 360 Pro's launch price of $399.99. The sources also say that the earliest possible launch would have to be sometime after mid-October 2011.

Further, IGN claims that Project Cafe will run on a "revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU (graphics processing unit) architecture," which will outperform the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, while it adds to previously reported rumors that the console will use a "custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset." The sources say Project Cafe will resemble a "modernized version of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System" in design, support a resolution of 1080p, potentially feature stereoscopic 3D support, and might be named "Stream."

Meanwhile, Kotaku reports that "industry sources" have confirmed information about Project Cafe's controllers. They don't reveal too much that's new, saying that Project Cafe will use a controller with a 6.2 inch touchscreen, two analog sticks, a camera, and 8 buttons. However, unlike most consoles that stick with a primary controller to play through most games, Project Cafe might use both the new controller and either Wii Remote or a new Wii Remote-style controller for motion gaming. Theoretically, it could use both controllers at the same time for new kinds of play experiences.

The controller could look something like these rumored concept designs that also recently surfaced. As always, all of this information should be considered rumor and speculation.

Sources: IGN, Kotaku

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I just hope they reveal what it looks like soon so it doesn't end up like the PSP Go did with billions of fake images of how it will look.

New details on this new console just keep streaming in don't they?

Nintendo. You have my attention.

Think of a big AAA title of a shooter or RPG or action game with the touchscreen integrated perfectly with the inventory system... I like the sound of it.

I recall Nintendo saying something about not launching their consoles at more than $250 back when the Wii was put on the market.

*shrugs*

Rumors are rumors. We'll see how things turn out.

I am a bit intrigued. So... what are the games going to be like?

Three hundred and ninty nine US dollars...Three hundred and ninty nine US dollars...Three hundred and ninty nine US dollars...sorry, had to.

In all seriousness, I really hope this one turns out better then the Wii overall. While the Wii did have some nice hidden gems, they were burried under some of the biggest piles of crap I've ever seen for any system.

HankMan:
New details on this new console just keep streaming in don't they?

You and your puns. Damn your puns. I'm seriously!

Well then, colour me intrigued. I'm not sure about the controller, though. Touchscreen? Why should we need that?

no freaking way man, no thanks, i stayed away from the PS3 for the simple reason thats its too expensive, and this tops it.

Mettking:
While the Wii did have some nice hidden gems, they were burried under some of the biggest piles of crap I've ever seen for any system.

Eh, no worse than the PS2 or the NES.

I suppose the biggest difference is that the gems on the Wii haven't gotten as much attention as they deserve.

HankMan:
New details on this new console just keep streaming in don't they?

Going from Wii to Stream? What's next, Flush? Ba Dum Ching.

CardinalPiggles:
no freaking way man, no thanks, i stayed away from the PS3 for the simple reason thats its too expensive, and this tops it.

No, it does NOT top the ps3 price

Absolute balderdash. As stated in the post, $399.99 was the launch price of the XBox 360 Pro. If I remember right, that turned out to be a fair and well performing price point.

Tom Goldman:

IGN reports that "sources with knowledge of the project" say Project Cafe will be priced at between $350 to $400 at launch. This would put it right up there with the Xbox 360 Pro's launch price of $399.99. The sources also say that the earliest possible launch would have to be someone after mid-October 2011.

Aye, the dreaded anthropomorphized days of the autumn months...

So yeah, $400 is reasonable for a new console. Far better than the $600-something price of the PS3 when it came out.

Mettking:
Three hundred and ninty nine US dollars...Three hundred and ninty nine US dollars...Three hundred and ninty nine US dollars...sorry, had to.

In all seriousness, I really hope this one turns out better then the Wii overall. While the Wii did have some nice hidden gems, they were burried under some of the biggest piles of crap I've ever seen for any system.

I see the Wii's steaming pile of crap, and raise it the PS2's pile of steaming crap. People remember it fondly, but the PS2 had some serious crap...

OT: I don't think this is news particularly. I mean, from the looks of those details, they want to create a compromise between what was good about the Wii, and what the detractors claimed that it was missing. The controller is likely to be interchangeable with the 3DS, and considering the price ratio of the Wii to it's controllers, it was always going to be unlikely that those would just disappear. Although I will retract that statement if this machine isn't backwards compatible.

As for power, again, it needed the boost, but wait until the other two release consoles, to see if the gap between them has really changed...

MmmFiber:

HankMan:
New details on this new console just keep streaming in don't they?

Going from Wii to Stream? What's next, Flush? Ba Dum Ching.

I think we're still one generation behind that!

The next one will obviously be Splash

There's far too much speculation about a console that hasn't even been officially announced yet. I think everyone needs to just chill out until E3. That is if the rumor that Nintendo will announce Project Cafe at E3 is anything more than rumor itself...

Mehall:

CardinalPiggles:
no freaking way man, no thanks, i stayed away from the PS3 for the simple reason thats its too expensive, and this tops it.

No, it does NOT top the ps3 price

Absolute balderdash. As stated in the post, $399.99 was the launch price of the XBox 360 Pro. If I remember right, that turned out to be a fair and well performing price point.

embed fail.

also, how much was the PS3 at release? i thought it was about 350 to 400...

oh wait im getting confused with dollars and pounds. nevermind it doesnt top it :)

CardinalPiggles:

Mehall:

CardinalPiggles:
no freaking way man, no thanks, i stayed away from the PS3 for the simple reason thats its too expensive, and this tops it.

No, it does NOT top the ps3 price

Absolute balderdash. As stated in the post, $399.99 was the launch price of the XBox 360 Pro. If I remember right, that turned out to be a fair and well performing price point.

embed fail.

also, how much was the PS3 at release? i thought it was about 350 to 400...

oh wait im getting confused with dollars and pounds. nevermind it doesnt top it :)

To quote the meme, five hundred and ninety nine US dollars *que Price Is Right fail horns*.

US$399 would translate to about £250-£300 of Her Majesty's Pounds, depending on how kind the manufacturer is.

MmmFiber:

HankMan:
New details on this new console just keep streaming in don't they?

Going from Wii to Stream? What's next, Flush? Ba Dum Ching.

It's funny because you said Flush and your name is Fiber

MmmFiber:
I think we're still one generation behind that!
The next one will obviously be Splash

Personally, I think they should go
...with the Flow

If that is how the controller is going to go, they are going to be pricy. I wouldn't hold to much stock in these rumors though, some of it seems pretty dodgy.

HankMan:
New details on this new console just keep streaming in don't they?

Streaming might be the only thing going for cafe. The reason the wii worked was A) a low entry barrier and B) any random person could use it. Also, having a screen in the controller might make the battery life or controller costs terrible.

HankMan:

MmmFiber:

HankMan:
New details on this new console just keep streaming in don't they?

Going from Wii to Stream? What's next, Flush? Ba Dum Ching.

It's funny because you said Flush and your name is Fiber

MmmFiber:
I think we're still one generation behind that!
The next one will obviously be Splash

Personally, I think they should go
...with the Flow

Looks like your puns have caught a popular current - just hope the tide of opinion doesn't change or you might find yourself up a creek with no paddle.

OT: It all sounds potentially cool, but my expectations havn't been met by the any of the last console generations so meh. Plus, those controllers are going to be EXPENSIVE, and I was horrified by how much a Wii-mote set you back!

..$400 to start, and possibly controllers that costs as much as a 3DS, which features its own screen, and therefore is probably a handheld console in itself. I wonder what's the plan with 3DS then.

I think I'll skip out on this one. While extremely high barrier of entry will ensure that we never have to worry about shovelwares, it will be immensely prohibitive for the customers too.

If these specs are true, this is brilliant - Ignoring the peripherals, Wii 2 is basically an Xbox 360 with beefed up CPU and GPU (and presumably memory). That means everyone already knows how to program these and there are tons of dev tools Wii 2 ready with only minimal tweaks.

Note the line in one of those leaked slides where they're bragging about how easy it is to port from PC/X360 to Project Cafe. That'd be the reason.

$400 is pretty standard, whatever people may say. However, the tech seems like it'll be still trailing the PC significantly, and this looks like a 'high end' console this time. Ah well, means the PC wont suffer from console ports like this generation did.

For a comparison, the r700 GPU is the hd4 series, the hd7 series will be out before this console is, so PC's will be about 4-5 times faster at release.

those controller just look like a huge ass xbox controller withe a screen

So...I don't know what any of those hardware specs mean. Is that good?

Can I get a judgment from one of the many people here who know about that sort of thing?

Just hoping for a decent HD but then we are talking about nintendo :(

If any of these rumors turn out to be true the image of the console I'm getting is this cluster fuck compilation of every console gimmick they've released in the last 25 years that will look more like the parody game systems you see in cartoons than it will an actual game console.

I don't have much faith in Nintendo for anything outside of the handheld market, they broke my faith in them with the Wii. It will forever be a black stain on my relationship as a fan with them. I'm not holding my breath on this new system because I just have this nagging feeling it will be filled with suck the same as the Wii.

This all seems very strange to me.

I'll end up buying it eventually anyway.

No point worrying about it.

Shit. I said I'd never buy a Wii. What'd I do 2 years later? Bought a fucking Wii.

KeyMaster45:
If any of these rumors turn out to be true the image of the console I'm getting is this cluster fuck compilation of every console gimmick they've released in the last 25 years that will look more like the parody game systems you see in cartoons than it will an actual game console.

I don't have much faith in Nintendo for anything outside of the handheld market, they broke my faith in them with the Wii. It will forever be a black stain on my relationship as a fan with them. I'm not holding my breath on this new system because I just have this nagging feeling it will be filled with suck the same as the Wii.

Actually, as a primarily PC gamer with the two major consoles (but not a wii) i can say without blind fanboyism (butthurt or otherwise) that it looks like a pretty good console. Decent spec (what i expected tbh, it's not going to match a PC, no console ever will again but it's good) and i can see a lot of potential in the touch screen. I'm unlikely to buy it myself (just no point for me, a decent PC is all you need) but i can safely say it'll trounce the 360 and ps3.

Remember awkward weapon selection in fps? gone. RTS games? may actually work! Inventories can be placed onto the screen in RPG's and the screen can double as a keyboard for MMORPG's.

Wicky_42:

HankMan:

MmmFiber:

Going from Wii to Stream? What's next, Flush? Ba Dum Ching.

It's funny because you said Flush and your name is Fiber

MmmFiber:
I think we're still one generation behind that!
The next one will obviously be Splash

Personally, I think they should go
...with the Flow

Looks like your puns have caught a popular current - just hope the tide of opinion doesn't change or you might find yourself up a creek with no paddle.

Are you saying there's a chance people will find my jokes too... Dry? O_O

TheComfyChair:

KeyMaster45:
snipped to avoid hearing butthurt whining again

I don't have much faith in Nintendo for anything outside of the handheld market, they broke my faith in them with the Wii. It will forever be a black stain on my relationship as a fan with them. I'm not holding my breath on this new system because I just have this nagging feeling it will be filled with suck the same as the Wii..

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Remember awkward weapon selection in fps? gone. RTS games? may actually work! Inventories can be placed onto the screen in RPG's and the screen can double as a keyboard for MMORPG's.

That's one possibility,also judging from the "prototype"'s look,this won't be as gimmicky as the Wii was,thus less shovelware will try to market itself with such,because there isn't much you can do with that screen other than manage an inventory,use it as a keyboard,etc. so in theory,this controller setup itself may fix the issues that certain genres have had on consoles.
P.S.$400,I'm not sure if that's cheap or expensive as fuck.

I like what I'm hearing about the controller. It sounds similar to what the DS does only without the portability and with a ton of extra power. They can keep those motion controllers though.

I can't wait to hear more about it. June 7th needs to hurry the hell up and get here, screw Easter.

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