Feds Using Seized Domains to Promote Anti-Piracy PSA

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Anyone else laugh when he said "because you have no soul!?!"

Seriously I thought this video was a pisstake at first.

That is amazing. Government taking pirate sites and converting them with antipiracy ads.

It's like, at least one guy in the US gov has a sense of humour.

Xzi:

CM156:

Xzi:

Nothing irritates a pirate. They don't have to deal with DRM, or server downtime, or unskippable announcements before their movies start, or any of that. You and me, the legitimate customers, are the ones who have to deal with that shit. So how is it helping?

Because this is not targeting us, the fair consumer.
Rather than some DRM which demonizes the user, this is pointing fingers at those who do pirate.

It may not be helping, but I find it funny. And I value assured amusment over justice.

It doesn't matter if it's targeting us or not. We're the only ones who are going to see it or give half a shit about it. So yeah...

Still, you must admit that there is a bit of humor in the way this was done.

KeyMaster45:
Ah I love me a good PSA put out by Uncle Sam. Always terribly done with no thought put into it other than "how shocking can we make this without it being porn?".

I think if they made pornographic PSAs, more people would watch them.

I thought it was kinda funny, and at least alot more creative than what they usually put out. Also repurposing pirate sites for antipiracy soapboxing? Delicious irony.

Wow, a piracy ad that is actually directed at pirates?

Who the hell thought this up!?

It's like they're trying to copy the Truth campaign, but Truth is genuinely clever (if a bit obnoxious), only attacks corporations, and doesn't tell people that they don't have souls.

So actually, they have nothing in common.

Booze Zombie:
"We refuse to upgrade to the digital world, CRY FOR USSSSS!"

Agree with this :P Not that I condone piracy in and of itself, but really, gov't needs to get their shit together in regards to RIAA, FCA, and other similar organizations.

Scott Bullock:

Now maybe this is just me, but the repurposing of websites that were seized using a method deemed dubiously legal at best to pimp a video seems downright inappropriate. While Homeland Security surely has the right to do with the sites what it will, that's just bad PR.

This doesn't make sense. Does ICE have the right to do as they please with seized domains or not? First you call the legality of the seizure into doubt and in the very next sentence say that Homeland Security can do whatever they want.

OT: I'm ambivalent about piracy. One the one hand it is theft, after a fashion; on the other hand the content providers bring a lot of it on themselves with various anti-customer policies which drive people to piracy for reasons that have little or nothing to do with wanting a free movie.

I wonder how many movie industry jobs have been lost due to costs of anti-piracy ads vs piracy itself.

I think someone should pirate this video.

Oh I love this.

"here, take this movie, but if you do it, she loses her job"

"ok" *takes one*

"You have no soul!"

"Yeah, says the guy who's stood outside, advertising free dvds in an effort to try and make somebody like me look bad. Well done asshole, now who's morally dubious".

I am a proud US citizen but when I see my government try to accuse pirates of theft i have to laugh and think to my self( gee governmnet you remind me of the sparrow outside my house that like to squak at the crow about the color of its feathers)

Let me just be the jerk in the room and say:

I'm better than most pirates. ^_^

I don't believe in justifying my actions if I personally feel like they're kindergarten excuses. Especially that one saying "We weren't going to buy it anyways". I can honestly see the hypothetical situation of more and more studios falling like Geneon due to piracy (apologies, Geneon was just a "bad" studio that couldn't survive...even if people loved their stuff. ^_^) and basically coming up with "They all fell because they no one was going to buy it anyways." <--Naturally, this hasn't happened yet, but I'd bet some really pretty pennies that said logic would come up. There's an excuse for everything~

Pirates who buy what they like, though (which by the way are *NOT* all of them), are cooler in my books~

/Flame shields UP

Maybe they should mention the repercussions of the record profits that film companies make every bloody year.

Oh, seriously? As a non-American, can I respectfully ask Homeland Security to fuck off ?

Why is America given dominion over international domains? Instead of useless cyber attacks on irrelevant things, if Anon truly promotes freedom of the internet they should do something about this. What they could do, I've no idea, but it irritates me no end when I see yet another American finger in another non-American pie.

ProjectTrinity:
Let me just be the jerk in the room and say:

I'm better than most pirates. ^_^

Pirates who buy what they like, though (which by the way are *NOT* all of them), are cooler in my books~

/Flame shields UP

From that post I can't tell if you are saying that you do pirate, but are better than others because you don't make excuses, or if you think your better than pirates because you aren't one.

If it's the latter then your elitism is misplaced and makes you look like a major douche. If it's the former your the same as the rest of the pirates. A nazi is a nazi, a football player is a football player, and a pirate is a pirate.

Studios only fail when they do not make good films. Yes, people lose their jobs, but the entertainment industry has always been an industry where you can lose your job as soon as the film you're on is wrapped up.

The entertainment industries are lucrative, and they break their own profit records pretty often. Most major pictures (the ones most likely to be pirated) have their budgets completely paid off purely from theatre takings anyway.

This is a waste of tax payer money, if the RIAA wants to fork over the cash all the better but don't waste my money dealing with copyright infringement. Pirates are not lost sales, they are poorly served customers that companies would rather no money compared to some money.

If I wasn't told that was a serious video I would think it is a joke. Like that Jack Black one.

Yeah no, that's a load of crap. If the movie industry was honestly hurt as bad as these people make it seem movies like Avatar wouldn't exist. Most people I know (myself included) use torrent as a way to find out whether or not I want to spend my money on something. I download a movie; if it's good I go and buy it. If it sucks a big fat one I don't. Same with most games. I tried minecraft before the demo and decided to buy it because it was good. All this does is 1. force companies to strive to create a GOOD quality product 2. give producers a good idea of how popular their movie/game/etc is, and 3. provide free advertisement via internet sharing. 99% of the torrents on the sites I use (demonoid being one example) say flat out 'if you like this movie/cd/game, support the developer and buy it. And if you look in the comments? If it's good, most people buy it. I'm not saying EVERYONE does, but let's face it; if it was really doing as much damage as it was the movie industry wouldn't be running anymore. It's JUST like all the DARE and above the influence BS. They spread a vague message that's been mangled and deformed by categorizing everything as 'bad' without giving any form of actual information. In other words, flat out propaganda.

using guilt trips so they can continue to make more money than some countries kind of a dick move if you ask me. not to mention the things he said an the way he said it ... pretty obviouse there more to it.

I dont pirate but you have to have standards in how you counter it too.

Baradiel:
Oh, seriously? As a non-American, can I respectfully ask Homeland Security to fuck off ?

Why is America given dominion over international domains? Instead of useless cyber attacks on irrelevant things, if Anon truly promotes freedom of the internet they should do something about this. What they could do, I've no idea, but it irritates me no end when I see yet another American finger in another non-American pie.

As an American I can safely say I hate it just as much as you do. Blame the government, not the people living here. We hate them just as much as you do; trust me.

Also, HA! The video doesn't allow commenting or rating, and their youtube page is the same. 'Free speech' my ass. You know what would be great? If that video got taken down due to a report of copyright violation. That would make my day.

This video is total bullshit. Nice try govt, keep on pushing your weak ass snitch society ideals.

GiftoChaos:
Am I the only one that finds this wildly ironic. "We are going to pirate your site to stop piracy ARHG" Course we aren't really stopping piracy we're just talking about it.

...How is taking hold of a site legally piracy?...

razer17:

ProjectTrinity:
Let me just be the jerk in the room and say:

I'm better than most pirates. ^_^

Pirates who buy what they like, though (which by the way are *NOT* all of them), are cooler in my books~

/Flame shields UP

From that post I can't tell if you are saying that you do pirate, but are better than others because you don't make excuses, or if you think your better than pirates because you aren't one.

If it's the latter then your elitism is misplaced and makes you look like a major douche. If it's the former your the same as the rest of the pirates. A nazi is a nazi, a football player is a football player, and a pirate is a pirate.

Studios only fail when they do not make good films. Yes, people lose their jobs, but the entertainment industry has always been an industry where you can lose your job as soon as the film you're on is wrapped up.

The entertainment industries are lucrative, and they break their own profit records pretty often. Most major pictures (the ones most likely to be pirated) have their budgets completely paid off purely from theatre takings anyway.

And a murderer is a murderer.
A thief is a thief. [/Sentence is no relation to topic]
A cartoon is a cartoon.
A crybaby is a crybaby.
A hacker is a hacker.
A pirate is a pirate.

If you want to say that every person is the exact same level in every situation, you are free to, but I certainly see many~ ways there could be a gray area where I'd be willing to say that one murderer deserves to live FAR more than another murderer. Or that one hacker is amazing to the gaming industry compared to say, Geo. I'd strongly argue that they aren't the same, at all.

As for the justifications/excuses, I also respect a pirate much more if he said "Yep, I was going to buy it, but because it's free to download..." or someone who had to pirate once or twice because of some weird computer/financial situation at home compared to say someone that has a list ready to bark on why they pirate just for the sake of barking.

I absolutely refuse to say they're all one on the same level. There's too many gray areas in every category I listed up above.

That is one of the most retarded PSAs I've ever seen.

Oh yes, the financial repercussions of downloading a movie are huuuuge 9_9
`Oh my god I stole a $15 DVD so now the movie industry suddenly has to fire this boom operator!'? How the hell does that work?

I don't pirate, but I do support piracy to an extent. I think it's aesthetically wrong on the part of the movie industry to take your money for something you might not end up liking, as it gives them the excuse to make shitty films built entirely around cool looking previews. And the more people buy those kinds of tickets, the more films like that there will be. I don't want to support those movies, and I do want to support the movies that are actually good, and the most obvious way to do that is if the cinemas refunded our tickets due to crappy films. Why not? You can get a refund for anything else you buy, if you're not happy with it. The way I see it, when I see a movie at a cinema, I'm paying for their service of showing it to me on a big huge screen in a dark room, because that's all I'm getting out of it. If I miss it there, I'll stream it from Megavideo. If I don't end up doing that, I'll borrow it from my public library. I am simply not going to spend money on a movie if I haven't already seen it. If I think it's good, I'll buy it. If I decide to watch it a second time later on, I'll buy it. But if I haven't seen it yet, I refuse to support it, until I know for sure that I want to. Without piracy, I miss out on a lot of films that I might otherwise have liked and bought. I used to pirate, and I can safely say that since I stopped, I've seen substantially fewer new films, and I've bought substantially fewer DVDs. You paranoid assholes in the movie industry are losing money, due to my lack of piracy. And if that causes the boom operator to lose her job, it's not my problem.

So let me get this straight. Given the option to fire a hardworking crew member or take $7 out of Michael Cera's considerable paycheck, you choose the former, and then you blame me for it? What is wrong with you?

ProjectTrinity:

A pirate is a pirate.

Wait so this:
image

is the same as this:
image

(lol at how desperate the studios are to call people who share their media by the same name as murderous raping criminals of the high seas)

icame:

GiftoChaos:
Am I the only one that finds this wildly ironic. "We are going to pirate your site to stop piracy ARHG" Course we aren't really stopping piracy we're just talking about it.

...How is taking hold of a site legally piracy?...

As long as they didn't pull a DHS and knock thousands of legitimate sites out while trying to get a few bad ones.

Treblaine:

ProjectTrinity:

A pirate is a pirate.

Wait so this:
image

is the same as this:
image

(lol at how desperate the studios are to call people who share their media by the same name as murderous raping criminals of the high seas)

Lolwhoa no! One is prettier

I'll rephrase:

A pirate is a pirate
An Internet pirate is an internet pirate

Yeesh. :P

This is almost as worse as those 1950's anti-pot PSA's or in fact any PSA the government throws out.

aashell13:

Scott Bullock:

Now maybe this is just me, but the repurposing of websites that were seized using a method deemed dubiously legal at best to pimp a video seems downright inappropriate. While Homeland Security surely has the right to do with the sites what it will, that's just bad PR.

This doesn't make sense. Does ICE have the right to do as they please with seized domains or not? First you call the legality of the seizure into doubt and in the very next sentence say that Homeland Security can do whatever they want.

OT: I'm ambivalent about piracy. One the one hand it is theft, after a fashion; on the other hand the content providers bring a lot of it on themselves with various anti-customer policies which drive people to piracy for reasons that have little or nothing to do with wanting a free movie.

If they had seized the sites in such a manner that people weren't calling out the legality of the seizures themselves left and right, then using the sites for their own devices wouldn't seem so... off-putting. To me, at least. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't care, but they shouldn't really be flaunting something they obtained in such a questionable manner.

Has a PSA ever worked? I mean, has anyone ever changed their outlook on any subject at all. Because of a minute a half commercial?

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