Hideo Kojima Tells Square-Enix to Remake FF7

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Man, FF7 was my favorite FF game with the battle system, materia system, story... It'd probably be the biggest risk/reward project SE could take on. But the potential reward would be massive...

The biggest obstacle would have to be voice acting. But I always though that Square did a good job with the voice acting. Sometimes the characters themselves were stupid or annoying but you already have good characters in FF7. Now you just need voices to them...

Braedan:
The only way I could seem them actually making a remake of FF7 would be to make a version similar to how Cave Story 3d is being made. Same perspective, and size, but with shiner graphics. I mean, that's what people are asking for right? If they completely re-did it, it wouldn't be FF7...

I agree with this, but I think if they were to do anything they should change the gameplay to involve the player more, (Jimquisition addressed this here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/3230-The-Weird-is-Not-Enough) and I don't think Final Fantasy VII would hold up with just the graphics update, but leave the story the same. FFVII's strength wasn't it's gameplay anyway.

crimsonshrouds:
i like 6 more than 7 and would love a remake with shinier graphics but i just dont see anything good coming from it. hell an anime like this with this art style would be better.

Me to, I enjoyed 7 when it came out, but always thought 6 was much better. For one most of the characters are <gasp> ADULTS! The only one who angsts can't remember anything and was a slave her whole life anyway, and then she isn't that bad and gets over it.

Dr. McD:

Braedan:
The only way I could seem them actually making a remake of FF7 would be to make a version similar to how Cave Story 3d is being made. Same perspective, and size, but with shiner graphics. I mean, that's what people are asking for right? If they completely re-did it, it wouldn't be FF7...

I agree with this, but I think if they were to do anything they should change the gameplay to involve the player more, (Jimquisition addressed this here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/3230-The-Weird-is-Not-Enough) and I don't think Final Fantasy VII would hold up with just the graphics update, but leave the story the same. FFVII's strength wasn't it's gameplay anyway.

Yeah I've never played a JRPG that had game-play as a big feature, it usually just sits there to separate the good bits.

Square Enix are currently in a bit of trouble when it comes to successful games releases, The final fantasy series is also victim of this decline; Remaking FF7 would likely, if only temporarily, remedy this situation.

And I believe they could do it quite well, regardless of how rose-tinted memories are precious to people. A Modern graphics remake, with good voice acting and an updated combat system (something akin to what they're putting in FFvs13) could, IMO, bring FF7 into the modern generation - Keeping what made the game great (The story, the setting, the characters) whilst updating bits which don't really stand up today (the lack of voices, the midi soundtrack, the pathetic origami 3D, the slow slow slow combat).

You know what, Hideo Kojima? If you have the time and resources and think it can be done reasonably, and can keep your auteur hands off of it... then YOU remake Final Fantasy 7. Square said they just don't have the time, but I bet they'd let you work on it if you asked them... and agreed to port it properly, with any "improvements" being approved by Wada and Nomura.

Remake? Nah wouldn't work. Maybe a continuation of the story...I'd like that.

Keep in mind, FF7 was a bit less flashier than they made Advent childern... FF7 had no anime bouncing off walls ninja moves going on.

duktapeman90:
Whether or not an FFVII remake could be any good or not is irrelevant. From a purely fiscal standpoint, it'd be retarded not to, given the shear number of fans demanding an HD remake. I sure as hell would buy it.

I'd have to take issue with that.

The kind of people who want an HD remake are loud, basement dwelling, and largely have poor hygiene. The important one of these is the first. They are LOUD. They are not a majority. Yes FF7 sold a lot of copies, but how many of those people are coming back for another full priced bite of the cherry for the same game ?

A game which has no multiplayer, which has no other really obvious DLC or microcharge income, which practically everyone who is interested in playing has already completed multiple times (ie which has little genuine re-playability for the non-hardcore). That is a tough sell.

Add to that the mountain of development cost, considering how much of ff7 there is to remake compared to the vast majority of games now, and you aren't looking at a sure fire win. Oh and if you don't get it PERFECT, you lose any shred of credibility that the property had left.

Can we have remakes of V and VI on the DS as promised first?

I'm glad they've finally admitted to running out of ideas.

I liked FF7, but I wouldn't want to see it re-made because I hate re-makes on principle.

Though I've always been in favor of a remake of FF 7 (and FF6 only moreso),once Kojima says he wants it to happen i have to wonder. I mean, this is the guy that made the last half of MGS2 a highly unfunny joke (Whining girlfriend to name just one of the many offenses) and then inflicted Snake Eater on me with its fussy item management garbage that took more fun out of gaming than even Bobby Kotick could do in his wildest dreams. As for MGS 4....i don't know, Kojima killed the franchise for me with the previous 2 games, but i heard rumors about the cutscenes...

So yeah if Kojima suggests it, there must be a really good reason not to do it.

I think that it would definitely help Square Enix's image right now. FF13 had decent critical response but a very mixed fan response- that and to my knowledge FF14 is still pretty buggy and horrendous by MMO standards. The ports of the older FF games are going pretty well, but I think they could use a good boost right now, publishing Deus Ex:HR is something but that's not really helping confidence in the company's ability to develop.

John Funk:
That said, now I'm wondering what a FF7 remake would look like if Kojima had a hand in making it.

It's kind of a disturbing mental image.

The internet to the rescue! I'd imagine it looking kinda like this, with some homoerotic undertones between cloud and SissySephiroth.

Well Kingdom Hearts apparently was born from an elevator conversation between SE and Disney bosses, so why the fuck not?
I actually want Nomura to speed up on FFvsXIII and later... remake FFVIII! Just to piss Spoony off.

Polock:
In my opinion, it would be a bad move to remake it.

Then again, there are A LOT of FF7 fans out there...

And taking into account their current monetary problems...

FF7 isn't the game that everyone is amazed about. Honestly, go replay it. I understand why it was amazing back in the day, however it's kinda just average now. I dunno about anyone else but i hated cloud, and everyone else was boring.

However i'm not saying that it wouldn't be boughten. Totally would, my brother who doesn't live at my house anymore would probably buy it and take it over to my house and play it.

Oh and was I the only person who despised aeris?

Tiswas:
Can we have remakes of V and VI on the DS as promised first?

6 has been remade on the ds (or psp... think it was ds though) i think. I played it last year.

Hands up who saw this coming the way their studio has been doing.

I'm torn between lulz/excitement, lulz/dread, and lulz/uncertaintity. Um...but while we're at it, why is the Zelda comment a bad thing?

As someone who annually will replay FFVII, I have no life, I'll say the only thing in the game I'm not a fan of are the graphics. Coincidentally with the release of FFXIII square-enix told all of us the only thing they are good at anymore is graphics.

How many fanboys, myself included, had a nerdgasm back when sony showed off the opening of FFVII for PS3? Saying, "if we were going to make it, it would look like this."

crimsonshrouds:
i like 6 more than 7 and would love a remake with shinier graphics but i just dont see anything good coming from it. hell an anime like this with this art style would be better.

That... made me smile SO MUCH. :D

OT: I always dream for a proper FF7 remake. But proof positive that Square-Enix is not SquareSoft, lay in their most recent JRPGs. I maintain that part of their failure here is cultural, but also part flawed game design. A retreading of FF7 grounds would likely see many of the same tropes that we as a gaming culture frowned on in the first place.

And then part of me is left wondering... are they just scared to remake FF7? They gave a valid excuse, but it still reeked of excuse (meaning it stank). Do they know they're not as good as the old team that created the 7th title? It would terrify me to try to remake what many of that day felt was one of the greatest FF Titles of that era. Next to FF6, it's certainly on the top 2 (for me). Hmm.

crimsonshrouds:
i like 6 more than 7 and would love a remake with shinier graphics but i just dont see anything good coming from it. hell an anime like this with this art style would be better.

No need to remake VI it looks and plays fine. VII on the other hand has the worst graphics out of all the Final Fantasy games and because of that is the only reason I would even say to remake it.

Dora:
Yeah, that's what we need. More remakes. Forget creativity, just throw money at older properties! People are magpies who like shiny, familiar things!

Well look what creativity did to Square Enix recently. They've lost 148 million dollars thanks to crappy original IPs. Hell, The upcoming FF14 is responsible for almost half of that loss. An FF7 remake would provide them with the money they need to not be a massive sinking ship right now. As I see it SqEnix is going to have another brush with bankruptcy soon, just like they did when the poured that massive amount of money into Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Sony had to bail them out of that colossal mess up.

AzrealMaximillion:

Dora:
Yeah, that's what we need. More remakes. Forget creativity, just throw money at older properties! People are magpies who like shiny, familiar things!

Well look what creativity did to Square Enix recently. They've lost 148 million dollars thanks to crappy original IPs. Hell, The upcoming FF14 is responsible for almost half of that loss. An FF7 remake would provide them with the money they need to not be a massive sinking ship right now. As I see it SqEnix is going to have another brush with bankruptcy soon, just like they did when the poured that massive amount of money into Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Sony had to bail them out of that colossal mess up.

Making more Final Fantasy games isn't creativity. It's time to bury that franchise. Maybe if they let their talent move in new directions they'd have a hit.

i would purchase a remake of FF7. i started to play the original version of it and i really loved it, never got to finish it though, but i think real voices, cut scenes and improved graphics would motivate me to really finish it! i am ashamed to say that the graphics really did get a little bit on my nerves, but i started playing it after i had finished crysis.

John Funk:
That said, now I'm wondering what a FF7 remake would look like if Kojima had a hand in making it.

What, the Chocobo riding would be replaced by Duck riding?

Dora:

AzrealMaximillion:

Dora:
Yeah, that's what we need. More remakes. Forget creativity, just throw money at older properties! People are magpies who like shiny, familiar things!

Well look what creativity did to Square Enix recently. They've lost 148 million dollars thanks to crappy original IPs. Hell, The upcoming FF14 is responsible for almost half of that loss. An FF7 remake would provide them with the money they need to not be a massive sinking ship right now. As I see it SqEnix is going to have another brush with bankruptcy soon, just like they did when the poured that massive amount of money into Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Sony had to bail them out of that colossal mess up.

Making more Final Fantasy games isn't creativity. It's time to bury that franchise. Maybe if they let their talent move in new directions they'd have a hit.

They did that when they made The Last Remnant, a completely original game. How'd tha turn out again? Oh yeah. http://www.1up.com/reviews/the-last-remnant_2

Oh, what now to insist this doesn't ;prove new franchises aren't the solution, are you going to insist that The Last Remnant is really just a sequel to a game from the MX2?

Dr. wonderful:
Hey, Kojima

Where the hell my Metal Gear rising!?

In 2012, where its always been. Anyone who said it was out in 2011 was lying to you.

Hideo Kojima making a Final Fantasy game... 4th wall breaking tutorials, constantly lecturing about how war is bad while your character kills hundreds of people, oh and a stealth suit materia. I would mention a nonsensical yet predictable story but Sqeenix already does this without Kojima's help.

Honestly FF 6's super deformed aesthetics hold up better than the whole horrible popeye arms and lack of faces of FF7. The Early PS1/32 bit and N64/64 bit era though are among the worst aged games in gaming history in terms of looks as it was the first major stab at 3D graphics. I think a remake would make it servicable as it looks horrible by todays standards. (whoever don't fix what isn't broken...no it was broken from day one.) Now FF 8 doesn't need a HD over haul as it was rather pretty for its time...it's story and gameplay are where it sucked hard.

To all the guys who say they would rather see 6 remade: ...Why don't they just remake both 6 AND 7? Make everyone happy that way!

crimsonshrouds:
i like 6 more than 7 and would love a remake with shinier graphics but i just dont see anything good coming from it. hell an anime like this with this art style would be better.

They already did a one-shot anime OVA for Final Fantasy 7 called Last order. I can honestly see 6 working as an anime...as long as they get to work on making Final Fantasy 7 an anime RIGHT after they're done with 6. And then 8, then 9....and then they end it there before they get into the bad games.

John Funk:
That said, now I'm wondering what a FF7 remake would look like if Kojima had a hand in making it.

It's kind of a disturbing mental image.

Everyone you meet would be sitting on a springy duck with a serious expression.

Scratch that, a springy duck Metal Gear.... Metal Gear Duck!

AzrealMaximillion:

Dora:
Yeah, that's what we need. More remakes. Forget creativity, just throw money at older properties! People are magpies who like shiny, familiar things!

Well look what creativity did to Square Enix recently. They've lost 148 million dollars thanks to crappy original IPs. Hell, The upcoming FF14 is responsible for almost half of that loss. An FF7 remake would provide them with the money they need to not be a massive sinking ship right now. As I see it SqEnix is going to have another brush with bankruptcy soon, just like they did when the poured that massive amount of money into Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Sony had to bail them out of that colossal mess up.

Honestly I think that FF7 would be a lot more of a financial risk than you think. First off, you're talking about probably a years development time, minimum. Sure, that's faster than a lot of games these days, but it's still a colossal task to just make a game. There isn't a single line of code that you can just pull from the original. You have to make EVERYTHING from new. All you have is a the script and an outline of events, which while I grant you saves some time, that is not the big deal in terms of man hours. So its going to take a long ass time to do. FF7 is a big game, and you have to make everything all over again. Next up you have to deal with a full sequence of QA, not just to make sure that it works, but that its actually still worth playing. If you change anything you get bitched at, even if its retarded.

So, they can't start to recoup anything for a long time. Next up, all that development costs money. A lot of money. If you want high quality voice acting and such like, well you have to pay for it. FF7 has a LOT of dialog. This takes a lot of investment to see through, a LOT.

Finally, you have a finished product sitting on shelves for 50 bucks.

How many people are going to actually buy that ? Now yes, you can assume a decent level of sales from the nostalgia crowd, but SqNix don't need decent, they need a VAST seller. The vast majority of people who seriously give a damn already have the PSN version of FF7, and though you'll still get sales, not to the same degree you might want. Next up, you have the regular gamer crowd who haven't played FF7 since the new millennium. How many of them are going to buy a game that advertisers itself as being 'exactly the same' as one they played over ten years ago ? Add to that the lack of anything new (ie multilayer, extra ANYTHING to make it worthwhile) and you have what looks like a pretty anemic title in this day and age, even more so if you completed it first time.

Basically what I'm saying is that while a remake would guarantee a million or so sales, SqNix need ten times that for it to be genuinely worth it, and tbh I don't even know if there are enough PS3s to make that happen. For a PS3 only title, it would probably be on killzone 2 levels (2mil) and while that might make them a few bucks that doesn't help them.

All that assumes that they actually don't get crapped on by every reviewer on the internet (not just Yahtzee) for screwing it up and destroying everyone's dreams, which TBH I think is a near certainty no matter what they do. Looking back, everyone loves FF7 with nostalgia glasses on. In practice, even a perfect remake is going to remind them that even for its time ff7 was not a great innovator.

Basically, its a BIG risk to do it. Similar stuff has generally not succeeded, or at least not to a huge degree. There's a remake of HL in the HL2 source engine, and of Doom in the Doom 3 engine. Both of which are pretty damn awesome but not particularly popular or commercially viable.

If there was a time to do this it was 2007 on the anniversary. It would be a job for a small team to release in chapters via PSN over the course of a year or so, and charging say $15 bucks for the whole thing. Keep most everything the same (ie the same code), just update the battle sequences and higher res sprites for the rest. People would buy that. Hell I might buy that if I had a PS3. But a proper remake would be definitely a bigger gamble than SqNix are in a position to take atm.

OutrageousEmu:

Oh, what now to insist this doesn't ;prove new franchises aren't the solution, are you going to insist that The Last Remnant is really just a sequel to a game from the MX2?

Nope. I never played that. I'm not saying making an original game will unleash a splooge of amazingness. I'm just saying remakes aren't the solution. They're cheap cashgrabs. A lot of companies drop a lot of stinkers on original titles, but that doesn't mean they should give up, go back and rehash older stuff.

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