Japanese Newspaper Confirms Wii 2 Controller Details

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Japanese Newspaper Confirms Wii 2 Controller Details

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Nintendo's next console will feature controllers that function as handheld gaming systems and sport 6-inch touchscreens, if a report in Japan's Nikkei newspaper is to be believed.

Before we get into the details, I should warn you all to take this with a grain of salt. Though similar Nikkei reports have been uncannily accurate in the past -- as Joystiq notes, the paper successfully predicted the Nintendo DSi, DSi XL and 3DS -- there are no official guarantees that the paper's claims about the Wii's successor (dubbed "Project Cafe") are accurate.

That said, the recent Nikkei report is very interesting. In it the paper claims that Project Cafe's controllers will feature a 6-inch tablet-style touchscreen, camera and on-board power supply. Each can be uncoupled (whether this denotes a physical connection or not is unclear) from the main console and used as a separate handheld system.

Adding credence to Nikkei's claims are the months of rumor and speculation in this very vein. If nothing else, it seems suspicious that all the rumors would agree on the idea of touchscreen controllers.

Finally, the paper claims the new console will see release in the latter half of 2012.

It would be irresponsible of me to wildly speculate on what this sort of technological paradigm shift might mean for Nintendo as a company, let alone its next console, so instead I'll let you guys do it. Anyone want to be the first to prophesize doom for the entire industry?

Source: Nikkei, via Andriasang

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Does this mean that Project Cafe will feature $150 controllers?
I wonder if the controller becomes a completely separate handheld, or would it only be able to stream from the main console.

Pingieking:
Does this mean that Project Cafe will feature $150 controllers?
I wonder if the controller becomes a completely separate handheld, or would it only be able to stream from the main console.

Or is it a new DS?

OT: Couldn't care less until I see real information, video and interviews with a half dozen hands-on reports.

Boo different control styles! Boo casual gamers! Boo expensive peripherals! Boo change! Boo rumours without supporting information from a foreign-language source!

Is that enough of a knee-jerk pessimistic reaction for you, Escapist? It's about all I got in me before supper.

Oi, why can't E3 just get here faster? Now nintendo has me all curious.

THE GAMING INDUSTRY IS DOOMED! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

... There you go. Anyways, it looks nifty, but I'm probably not gonna get one.

Gimmicks, gimmicks all over the place.

It doesnt even matter because there will still only exist Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and those party games.

I've been saying this since the beginning but let me say it again to dissuade you from thinking that the controllers are going to cost as much as a portable.

The controllers are capable of running HD content, but don't have powerful hardware on board but rather, they stream video from games running on the console. Basically, it's cloud-computing like OnLive uses. It would only work if you were within WiFi distance of the console or perhaps it will even work from any WiFi spot.

There, no need to flip out over $150+ controllers.

josemlopes:
Gimmicks, gimmicks all over the place.

It doesnt even matter because there will still only exist Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and those party games.

"Gimmick" is the most over-used and least-impactful word in the game industry (and fandom) today. I wish I could erase it from existence.

I wonder if they'll have the same 3D effect that the 3DS has, could be interesting to see how this turns out!

Touchscreens are a very platform for control. Intuitive for non-gamers, without sacrificing complexity.

Well, should this be true, I won't be getting one, sad to say.

And I thought controllers were too expensive as they are now.

honestly if the controller becomes more expensive than the games you can play with it then I call shenanigans

I cant wait to look down and have a map on my controller/ or inventory there/ or what I want. The DS had great use of inventories there. This sounds awesome.

You know all the survival horror games that dont let you pause when you check the inventory? Well now you have to look down and manage it while not leaving the game screen at all. This is a great idea.

John Funk:

josemlopes:
Gimmicks, gimmicks all over the place.

It doesnt even matter because there will still only exist Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and those party games.

"Gimmick" is the most over-used and least-impactful word in the game industry (and fandom) today. I wish I could erase it from existence.

Here here.
Everyone called the Wii gimmicky when it came out, but both Sony and Microsoft have made their own motion control systems.
People seem to mistake "desire for change" for "things they threw in to make money"

So controllers cost as much as a handheld?
That doesn't sound practical at all.

Wait, Mario is the new controller? Where will the buttons go!?!
All kidding aside, that's a little much for a CONTROLLER.

Cursed Frogurt:

The controllers are capable of running HD content, but don't have powerful hardware on board but rather, they stream video from games running on the console. Basically, it's cloud-computing like OnLive uses. It would only work if you were within WiFi distance of the console or perhaps it will even work from any WiFi spot.

Wow, that's actually... rather interesting. If they manage to ship the controllers at a reasonable price with the promised features, I'd say it would be a winner... and soon to be copied by MS and Sony.

Though the question remains about about whether the features would actually incorporate gameplay properly or just end up being gim -

John Funk:

"Gimmick" is the most over-used and least-impactful word in the game industry today.

- not implemented properly...

I'm sure someone will love this idea, but the thing for me is that with controllers with screens, you know at some point you're going to get "Gameplay on screen, inventory and map on controller" and for almost every game if I want to look at inventory or my map, I want the game paused. Sounds like its going to be another case of "intuitive and immersive" being thrown around when they actually mean "intrusive"
But who knows? Maybe I'm simply looking at the glass half empty. Or half on one screen and half on my lap.

Okami, using augmented reality.

You point controller at screen and draw with your finger the symbol you want over it.

Old school flight sim. Tie fighter style. Plenty of room there for the controls and nobs you need to implememnt that type of game.

Hell. PC style RPG where you have a bunch of hotkeys all assigned on your controller in your prefered configuration!

Think of the possibilities.

John Funk:

josemlopes:
Gimmicks, gimmicks all over the place.

It doesnt even matter because there will still only exist Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and those party games.

"Gimmick" is the most over-used and least-impactful word in the game industry (and fandom) today. I wish I could erase it from existence.

I understand but this kind of stuff wont improve the games. They are just diferent ways of doing the exact same thing. I really dont like Nintendo (big news everybody) and my major complaint is that even though they are going for "new" diferent tech they will still do the exact same games.

I doubt we'll have to wait so long actually, I'm thinking this christmas or early 2012. I'd still love for it to have 3DS/DS controllers.

This sounds amazingly awesome, if ninty hadn't JUST launched a handheld I would be all for it... it's a nifty, if expensive, idea, but it sounds amazing....

Actually, it sounds a lot like the ngp to me...

josemlopes:

I understand but this kind of stuff wont improve the games. They are just diferent ways of doing the exact same thing.

And what's wrong with that? Where is it enshrined in gamer law that all things must make for better games? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it enough to just make interesting games?

No serious person ever goes to an art gallery and says "Ugh, this art isn't BETTER than this previous painting, why even bother?" You can argue that the change is shallow and insignificant, but if people enjoy it and it gives something interesting and new, why not?

And this isn't even touching on the issue of the fact that many people unfamiliar with gaming just find new methods of control more user friendly.

As for the "exact same games" remark, you do realize that not every game bearing the Mario title plays the same, I trust? Mario, for the most part, is just a sticker. It's a brand. A familiar brand used to encourage people to try out new (and perhaps daunting) game experiences that they're not familiar with.

Think the games suck, think the branding is misleading and disingenuous, even argue that they reiterate the same mechanics more than most other gaming companies, but saying Nintendo just releases the same games over and over is absurd.

And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

I'll be interested to see their E3 showing. And the memes that follow it, of course.

bombadilillo:
Okami, using augmented reality.

You point controller at screen and draw with your finger the symbol you want over it.

Old school flight sim. Tie fighter style. Plenty of room there for the controls and nobs you need to implememnt that type of game.

Hell. PC style RPG where you have a bunch of hotkeys all assigned on your controller in your prefered configuration!

Think of the possibilities.

Exactly where I sit, there is a lot of things that could be opened up with a separate screen.

OutrageousEmu:
And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

Okay, I don't get the hate. Since this is a "controller" we are talking about, I don't see a hard drive, OS, or some hardware/software needed to pick up information from anything other than the console from which these very items are what drives up the price for handhelds in the 1st place. I'd say the controller would be a good $60+-usd when it comes out.

Plus there are more buttons to push an a keyboard than anything we see on a handheld and see no complaints there.

the wii is fine, they didnt need to release a new one.

josemlopes:
Gimmicks, gimmicks all over the place.

It doesnt even matter because there will still only exist Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and those party games.

Actually I heard a lot of developers are quite happy with the console and so a variety of games are planned for it. This means you could see many games that would be on the 360 (or possibly it's child I dunno) on Nintendo's console. Well that's if Nintendo won't be jerks, one of the major failings for the Wii was the lack of software sales because nobody would make games for them unless it was cheap shovelware, which no one bought because it looked cheap. So Nintendo could only really relly on itself for the good games which were few and far between to say the least. Also the fact they're going back to a regular controller system (true it may have a touch screen and be a detachable console, so that may confuse things a little and off put a few devs) is appealing to a lot of developers...because no-one likes making games with motion controls, the Kinect proved this for me.

Delusibeta:

OutrageousEmu:
And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

Were the Wii and DS trying to recreate an experience that you can get cheaper and better with several competitors products, as well as one of their own?

They're touting touchscreen controls, twin thumbsticks and current gen graphics. You know what else has that? The NGP. Difference? The NGP will be out a year ahead, will have a lower price, and is a fucking portable.

Teiraa:
the wii is fine, they didnt need to release a new one.

They do it every 5 years, it would be breaking tradition otherwise...and you know how the Japanese are about tradition...

OutrageousEmu:

Delusibeta:

OutrageousEmu:
And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

Were the Wii and DS trying to recreate an experience that you can get cheaper and better with several competitors products, as well as one of their own?

They're touting touchscreen controls, twin thumbsticks and current gen graphics. You know what else has that? The NGP. Difference? The NGP will be out a year ahead, will have a lower price, and is a fucking portable.

You say this, but what with the recent kerfuffle over Sony's hacking problem, they'll have lost a lot of customer support...the non-hardcore playstation fans anyway. Also Nintendo will obviously market this to the people that bought a wii saying HEY GUYS, WE MADE IT BETTER so they'll sucker in a lot of casual players like that. If Nintendo prepare a good line-up for this system on launch it will probably be the more successful one...though that's just my opinion...frankly I think it's looking more and more doubtful we'll see a PS4, so if we get it, count your blessings...

Listen Nintendo. I'm glad you're taking a step outside the box here, as the standard controller variations today are well... quite standard, but I think this is a big problem with the direction you're going. The Wii sold well not only because it was a family console, but it had a low price point with arguably the cheapest peripherals of the big three. Xbox 360 and PS3 controllers costing $60 has always been an irk for me and a lot of others. Yet now here we are, making each individual controller capable of being disconnected and used as a handheld gaming device, which can only lead me to believe that each controller would cost as much as $100-120 at the least. With the prices of games at $60 and the Wii2 or Project Cafe more than likely costing much more than the original Wii, I think you're going in the wrong direction with your market.

OutrageousEmu:

Delusibeta:

OutrageousEmu:
And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

Were the Wii and DS trying to recreate an experience that you can get cheaper and better with several competitors products, as well as one of their own?

They're touting touchscreen controls, twin thumbsticks and current gen graphics. You know what else has that? The NGP. Difference? The NGP will be out a year ahead, will have a lower price, and is a fucking portable.

Have to agree with Emu. If the amount of sales with the 3DS were any indicator people are tired of small upgrades from similar products.

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