John Carmack does look like a respectable business person these days.

and again id proves that they are the absolute masters of creating grayish brown environments.

put in a level up system and everyone will call it a fallout clone but at least it'll be a genetically enhanced clone. hopefully.

I don't care what anyone says...I LIKE DOOM3

60 FPS on consoles? Awesome.

Could someone tell me exactly why 60fps is supposed to make my gameplay experience better? I could have sworn that better design and interesting aesthetic decisions do that.

Captain Placeholder:

teebeeohh:
John Carmack does look like a respectable business person these days.

and again id proves that they are the absolute masters of creating grayish brown environments.

What would you expect from a Post Apocalpytic Wasteland? Green with flowers that are bright and vibrant? Don't even mention Borderlands - that was set on an entirely different planet, this is earth. Common theme when things get blown up and burnt: Brown/Black/Gray.

Unless their is another colour I am missing?

Anyways - their will be some more colour. Blues, Blacks, Reds. Not completely Brown/Grayish.

Also - when will this be released? It said next month on the message - however everywhere I am reading it says it will be released fall?

it will be released on October 4th in the us properly October 7th for the rest of the world.
and where did i say that it looked bad or unrealistic or that i in any way dislike the aesthetics? I dislike grayish brown shooters but id has been making the pinnacle of grayish brown for 20 years.
And the only reason i don't have this preordered is because it will be censored in Germany and preordering imports is a bitch.

Speakercone:
Could someone tell me exactly why 60fps is supposed to make my gameplay experience better? I could have sworn that better design and interesting aesthetic decisions do that.

Higher FPS makes it easier to play that gameplay.

Speakercone:
Could someone tell me exactly why 60fps is supposed to make my gameplay experience better?

Makes gameplay smoother and more responsive. Things can only start happening on screen when a new frame is rendered so instructions and interrupts can only occur then... with 60 possible discrete execution points instead of 30 things flow better and react more immediately.

Captain Placeholder:

teebeeohh:
John Carmack does look like a respectable business person these days.

and again id proves that they are the absolute masters of creating grayish brown environments.

What would you expect from a Post Apocalpytic Wasteland? Green with flowers that are bright and vibrant? Don't even mention Borderlands - that was set on an entirely different planet, this is earth. Common theme when things get blown up and burnt: Brown/Black/Gray.

Unless their is another colour I am missing?

Anyways - their will be some more colour. Blues, Blacks, Reds. Not completely Brown/Grayish.

Also - when will this be released? It said next month on the message - however everywhere I am reading it says it will be released fall?

Take a look at Darksiders, that game was post-apocalyptic and still had a vibrant pallet despite all the destruction.

RhombusHatesYou:

Speakercone:
Could someone tell me exactly why 60fps is supposed to make my gameplay experience better?

Makes gameplay smoother and more responsive. Things can only start happening on screen when a new frame is rendered so instructions and interrupts can only occur then... with 60 possible discrete execution points instead of 30 things flow better and react more immediately.

Ah ok. That does sound like it could be pretty awesome then. I thought it was one of those cases where a studio concentrates too much on how shiny they can make things and not enough on how to make a great game. Then again it's id, not sure what I'm worried about :P

Thanks for clearing that up for me :)

tomvw:

Captain Placeholder:

teebeeohh:
John Carmack does look like a respectable business person these days.

and again id proves that they are the absolute masters of creating grayish brown environments.

What would you expect from a Post Apocalpytic Wasteland? Green with flowers that are bright and vibrant? Don't even mention Borderlands - that was set on an entirely different planet, this is earth. Common theme when things get blown up and burnt: Brown/Black/Gray.

Unless their is another colour I am missing?

Anyways - their will be some more colour. Blues, Blacks, Reds. Not completely Brown/Grayish.

Also - when will this be released? It said next month on the message - however everywhere I am reading it says it will be released fall?

Take a look at Darksiders, that game was post-apocalyptic and still had a vibrant pallet despite all the destruction.

Rage:

Darksiders:

Let's analyze these for a bit. Especially when taking into consideration the setting. Before I move on, I will point out that both games do have their fair share of grey environments. In fact I see some Darksiders screenshot where the color palette is almost entirely grey. Same goes for RAGE, though.

Darksiders is set in a fantasy world that is also post apocalyptic. It's not going for a realistic look at all. It looks like they took a standard environment and added colorful highlights here and there. Also note that I actually took some time to look for a screenshot that gave us at least some color in Darksiders.

RAGE is set in a real world Earth setting where Apophis collided with Earth and caused a global disaster. When looking at the game (of course it isn't released yet) you can find your fair share of sandy brown areas. Don't fret, though. You need only look up to see a vibrant blue sky, or find a body of water if you must. Settlements offer another good contrast from the mangled landscape. There are more industrial areas where the sky is greyed out due to fog, and of course the environment is also affected. In these areas you can most definitely say "grey shooter."

Why do we complain about the grey shooter color palette? Well, it's generally been used in places where devs have become lazy with coloring and give us things that don't please the eyes. For me, Gears of Wars came to mind. I do find that now it is being thrown around far too much. Where a shooter otherwise looks fantastic, people just say "it's grey" to almost anything these days. I could say Fallout 3 is "grey", New Vegas is "grey". Does that really mean anything other than the game looks poor in a graphical sense? Why not elaborate on it some more and explain exactly what you mean as opposed to using some tired old argument.

When it comes to RAGE, it's a game that's been in development for almost 4 years now. You can't really say they're being lazy when it comes to visuals.

Thrill as we look at 30 lines of code!

Granted I am definitely willing to give a company like id the benefit of the doubt, but nothing about this game looks interesting aside from its developers. Brown environment, scopes on guns, NPC who talks to you and...um, words and numbers that fill space on your hard drive. And physics of some sort apparently. And because nobody's ever done post-apocalyptic mad max-style worlds, they've done that too!