Craigslist Videogame Scammers About To Face Court

Craigslist Videogame Scammers About To Face Court

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Just a head's up: If you scam hundreds of people out of their money, don't be surprised when you wind up facing a lawsuit from the Attorney General's office.

Two men who ran a Craigslist scam involving videogame sales have wound up on the wrong side of the law and are now facing charges. Late last week, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine announced that his office is filing lawsuits against Nicholas Lamb and Robert White, who apparently ran a scam on the site where they were ripping people off while pretending to sell videogames, consoles, phones, and phone cards.

The DA's office has filed lawsuits against the two, claiming that Lamb and White used Craigslist to list PS3 consoles and games (as well as Boost Mobile phones and phone cards), but would never actually deliver the goods they'd sold to their victims, who often lived out-of-state:

"Their posts usually indicated that they were residing in Ohio, but would often tell potential buyers that they had previously lived in the buyers' states to gain their trust. Lamb and White would then request that payment be made through a wire transfer service such as Western Union or MoneyGram. Once the buyers completed the transaction, the two men did not deliver the products and would not provide refunds."

So far, the Attorney General's office reported has twenty nine different consumer complaints against Lamb (White is a close second with twenty seven complaints filed against him). Apparently the two scammers made "hundreds of posts", so the Attorney General's office thinks there a lot more victims.

Source: Wane via GamePolitics

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BrOhio: kicking ass and taking names, as always.

A lawsuit? Why not throw them in prison for fraud?

It always cheers me up to see justice bringeth the smack down on scammers.

Carry on, DeWine.

Wait, so we have an attorney who's also a general?

Or is he a general who happens to be an attorney?

Strange career choice, that guy.

Canid117:
A lawsuit? Why not throw them in prison for fraud?

We have a thing here is the USA called "Due Process of Law". Perhaps that will lead to them getting thrown in jail, I don't know. But I hope so.

CM156:

Canid117:
A lawsuit? Why not throw them in prison for fraud?

We have a thing here is the USA called "Due Process of Law". Perhaps that will lead to them getting thrown in jail, I don't know. But I hope so.

Being a non-retarded American I am very familiar with due process. What I meant was, why is the government suing these guys but not pursuing criminal fraud charges?

DarkRyter:
Wait, so we have an attorney who's also a general?

Or is he a general who happens to be an attorney?

Strange career choice, that guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_attorney_general

Think of it like a Super DA.

Nice to see my home state doing some good. I left after that stupid businessman John Kaisch took over and shut down plans for high-speed rail and made the state's working class miserable.

Canid117:

DarkRyter:
Wait, so we have an attorney who's also a general?

Or is he a general who happens to be an attorney?

Strange career choice, that guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_attorney_general

Think of it like a Super DA.

Dude, I think he was trying to make joke. At least I really hope it was meant to be a joke.

uguito-93:

Canid117:

DarkRyter:
Wait, so we have an attorney who's also a general?

Or is he a general who happens to be an attorney?

Strange career choice, that guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_attorney_general

Think of it like a Super DA.

Dude, I think he was trying to make joke. At least I really hope it was meant to be a joke.

Indeed lets hope for Poes law here.

I believe this is in order:


Go get 'em, Ohio.

Canid117:
A lawsuit? Why not throw them in prison for fraud?

Throwing them in prison seems light since they will eventually be free again and most likely not become reformed.

Theres a sucker born every minute.

How do people fall for scams like this. The second someone says wire transfer i break off contact. Unless i can get the goods face to face i won't try. Also isn't there a warning on the site saying something like "Don't do deals online as it might be a scam"?

NEXT TIME: The Court VS the Nigerians in the case of internet fraud...

Donnyp:
Theres a sucker born every minute.

How do people fall for scams like this. The second someone says wire transfer i break off contact. Unless i can get the goods face to face i won't try. Also isn't there a warning on the site saying something like "Don't do deals online as it might be a scam"?

Heh, yeah. It screams from the mountain tops that it's a scam and the article says they scammed hundreds ? Wow, so many idiots out there...

Shadow-Phoenix:

Canid117:
A lawsuit? Why not throw them in prison for fraud?

Throwing them in prison seems light since they will eventually be free again and most likely not become reformed.

I think it has something to do with the fact that it's an inter-state crime.

Also -it's been a while since I took my business law class, so I could be wrong- if they formed an LLC or something, they might be able to stay out of jail until its proven that they were directly responsible for the scam. The lawsuit might be more of an excuse to gather evidence which will then be used in a criminal trial.

This is all speculation, but it *seems* reasonable.

DarkRyter:
Wait, so we have an attorney who's also a general?

Or is he a general who happens to be an attorney?

Strange career choice, that guy.

He is the very model of a modern major general.

I think I hate the people who fell for the scams a lot more than the scammers. Evolution at its finest.

Yeah...this is why I don't like giving money to strangers over the internet. Or in person for that matter. Either I get the goods first, or they are exchanged for payment at the same time. Now, if I'm dealing with a respected and established company, then that's a different story. But random people? Why would you do this...?

vansau:

Shadow-Phoenix:

Canid117:
A lawsuit? Why not throw them in prison for fraud?

Throwing them in prison seems light since they will eventually be free again and most likely not become reformed.

I think it has something to do with the fact that it's an inter-state crime.

Also -it's been a while since I took my business law class, so I could be wrong- if they formed an LLC or something, they might be able to stay out of jail until its proven that they were directly responsible for the scam. The lawsuit might be more of an excuse to gather evidence which will then be used in a criminal trial.

This is all speculation, but it *seems* reasonable.

Hey...Nickel to see the Egress.

Fools and their money are easily parted.

How to have infinite money:

-acquire valuable object
-tell people you'll sell it to them
-take money but don't give object
-repeat for INFINITE MONEY!

The risk you take with scamming, if you don't go big enough before you're caught you risk a fine instead of a commendation.

poiumty:
How to have infinite money:

-acquire valuable object
-tell people you'll sell it to them
-take money but don't give object
-repeat for INFINITE MONEY!

Step 1 is not necessary.

I'm curious about how much the scammers were offering these things for. People usually fall for stupid scams like this when the deal is 'too good to be true'. If they were selling systems for less than they could get from gamestop it screams either scam or stolen merchandise. Almost makes me inclined to agree with GreatTeacherCAW.

I've been trying to imagine what the world would be like if fraud were not illegal. It is an interesting mind experiment.

Right now fraud is technically illegal but you can get away with it for so long like these guys that it might as well not be the case.

Caveat Emptor and all that. 1-200 to learn you can't trust anyone is in my opinion a fairly cheap lesson, and the scamees should be grateful that they finally learned it.

If they'd only scammed more people they'd be able to afford a lawyer who could get them off on this case.

Canid117:
A lawsuit? Why not throw them in prison for fraud?

Fraud usually gets you fines unless it's above a certain dollar amount, when it becomes felony fraud. But it's usually a civil matter for smaller-scale stuff like these scams.

What I don't get is who falls for these scams any more. Heck, even in MMO's you don't mail people things and then expect them to pay you. Wire transfers, unlike, say, credit card payments, can't be canceled/stopped once you send them off.

The cynic in me is ecstatic: people who get scammed on craigslit have no right to money anyway. They obviously lack the necessary intelligence to be able to retain their money, and if it isn't via craigslit, they will lose it another way. Seriously, what the fuck, people? Whenever anyone is contacted though a craigslist posting, this is the first thing they see:
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY

** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping

** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

Retards. All of them.

 

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