Sweden: Piracy Is Not A Religion

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Sweden: Piracy Is Not A Religion

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Swedish officials have yet again refused requests by The Missionary Church of Kopimism to recognize file-sharing as an official religion.

Founded by Philosophy student Isak Gerson, the Church describes itself thusly:

In our belief, communication is sacred. Communication needs to be respected. It is a direct sin to monitor and eavesdrop on people.

The absolute secrecy is holy in the church of kopimism.

In the individual pastoral care and confession with the kopimist priests (the Ops), priests are protected under Swedish law by an absolute professional secrecy.

Copyright Religion is our absolute opposite - Ongoing obstruction of copying.

We challenge all copyright believers - most of which have a great deal of influence in politics, and who derive their power by limiting people's lives and freedom. What they most of all want to limit the knowledge. We need to steel ourselves for their hatred and aggression.

- Copy. download, uplooad!
- All knowlegde to all!
- Information technology is not to be feathered by laws.

The Church's first attempt to attain state sanction was rejected in April of 2011, with Swedish authorities citing a lack of formalized tradition within the organization. Since that time Gerson and his 1,000 acolytes have created an official system of rituals which includes prayer and "meditation over shared information and the act of copying."

Despite these efforts at legitimacy, Swedish officials refuse to budge, though according to Gerson, the reasons behind the latest denial are murky at best.

"This time, we can't really see any real reason for our denial. We adjusted our application just the way the Swedish authorities needed, and they still denied us the right to form a church," he claims.

Still, Gerson's flock remains undaunted and will continue its crusade to spread the illicit teachings of their belief system.

"One thing is certain though. We will continue meeting, believing in copying, deepen our faith and church, and fight politically for a world where copying is not only accepted by encouraged. We know that this is not only our dream and cause, but our calling," Gerson adds.

Whether the Missionary Church of Kopimism stands as a satire of religious intolerance, a jab at governmental hypocrisy or an actual religious entity, is beyond the scope of this article. That said, let it be known that on this day, July 12, 2011, I love the Internet very, very much.

You guys are the best.

Source: Torrent Freak

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I lol'd

I guess they be trolling.
Well I bloody hope thats what they are doing.

Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)

That's quite ... something, indeed. I wonder if they would have been successful in any country.
But yeah, i doubt this is a serious religion. If it was, then... that really would be weird.

Do i need to believe in a god to join?

That's kinda bullshit they should be able to found a religion under any traditions they want. They most certainly shouldn't be able to break the law because of their religion but they most certainly hold the right to have traditions that may have done so, as long as no actual law is being broken under it's name.

Danik93:
Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)

But should it be illegal?

See, theres the issue.

What we have is essientaly the power to make somthing out of nothing. It takes 0 raw materials to make a digital book, movie, game, etc.

You have a limitless supply of these products. Why not share them? What if we could do this with food or water? would you still call it theft then?

At the same time, I undertsand that people put their time and money into these things, and they lose their sales like this.

This is one of the few issues where I am truly divided in my opinion.

RT-Medic-with-shotgun:
Do i need to believe in a god to join?

The lack of copyright is our god now. ^_^

HontooNoNeko:
That's kinda bullshit they should be able to found a religion under any traditions they want. They most certainly shouldn't be able to break the law because of their religion but they most certainly hold the right to have traditions that may have done so, as long as no actual law is being broken.

If the so called "Church" of Scientology can do it so can they. And Scientology has a very shady past indeed. Kidnapping and murder being two of the worst accusations.
And yet they still operate without sanction. But then this is the US where money talks. So what do you expect really.

This file sharing religion seems far FAR less dangerous than the brain washing psychopaths of scientology. Let them have their religion and filesharing I say. Assuming it isn't a troll ofcourse ^_^ heh.

Danik93:
Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)

The intent of making it a legally-recognized religion isn't to be able to share files legally. It's to protect the file-sharing facilitators ("priests") from having to turn over records, thus making file-sharing far more difficult to prosecute. It's like how Catholic priests are shielded from having to report crimes told to them in confessional.

They're obviously trolling, the question however, is WHO they are trolling.

This thread got me thinking...maybe we could replace this tired out bronie meme with pastafarianism! The great noodle in the sky would be very pleased.

I have nothing to say about the article that wouldn't risk me a ban, but I just had to compliment you on your choice of picture. Love it.

This retards are probably trying to:
A - make pirating a religion
B - make prosecution of their pirating an attack against their religion

Not knowing the swedish system, that's what I would assume they are doing assuming sweden has a freedom of religion cause.

Either way, I hope they fail. Circumventing the law with hollow loop holes is not acceptable.

Jabberwock xeno:

Danik93:
Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)

But should it be illegal?

See, theres the issue.

What we have is essientaly the power to make somthing out of nothing. It takes 0 raw materials to make a digital book, movie, game, etc.

You have a limitless supply of these products. Why not share them? What if we could do this with food or water? would you still call it theft then?

At the same time, I undertsand that people put their time and money into these things, and they lose their sales like this.

This is one of the few issues where I am truly divided in my opinion.

How can you be divided ?
Games are aluxery. Developers make them in return for moneybecuase they are people too, they need it to survive, for families, etc.

You may say your not taking aything, but you are with holding money. t would be like paying a mechanic to fix your car, but not paying him, or havine a carpenter make something for you if you buy the wood.

Jabberwock xeno:

What we have is essientaly the power to make somthing out of nothing. It takes 0 raw materials to make a digital book, movie, game, etc.

I'm afraid quite a bit of time and money goes into creating these things. A development team for a game or an author for a book have their own bills to pay. You yourself know this:

At the same time, I undertsand that people put their time and money into these things, and they lose their sales like this.

Stealing, is stealing amigo. If you make a digital copy of something that's one less copy sold. I can understand stealing food, or clothes, but entertainment?

Unless this is meant to be a way of trolling, this is incredibly stupid. It seems like a really silly attempt to get past the law. I don't know about there, but I know in the US that the government isn't allowed to make it illegal for people to practice their religion or something like, which means they couldn't bust these people for 'practicing their religion.' It all seems really stupid to be honest.

Could you imagine a religion getting tax exempt status based on stealing?

unrelated note: Is Sweden the country with the Jedi religion?

Akalabeth:
This retards are probably trying to:
A - make pirating a religion
B - make prosecution of their pirating an attack against their religion

Not knowing the swedish system, that's what I would assume they are doing assuming sweden has a freedom of religion cause.

Either way, I hope they fail. Circumventing the law with hollow loop holes is not acceptable.

I'm sorry, but that seemed slightly ironic to me.

Anyhow, am I the only one thinking this is an actually awesome religion? It's obviously serious, I mean, come on.

this just in boats go in the water

OT: this is just stupid... its a joke that seems to have gone to the edge of stupidville and never stopped
want to share files fine but there are consequences and trying to get around them by making a religion is just idiotic and ridiculous

this isnt my name:

Jabberwock xeno:

Danik93:
Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)

But should it be illegal?

See, theres the issue.

What we have is essientaly the power to make somthing out of nothing. It takes 0 raw materials to make a digital book, movie, game, etc.

You have a limitless supply of these products. Why not share them? What if we could do this with food or water? would you still call it theft then?

At the same time, I undertsand that people put their time and money into these things, and they lose their sales like this.

This is one of the few issues where I am truly divided in my opinion.

How can you be divided ?
Games are aluxery. Developers make them in return for moneybecuase they are people too, they need it to survive, for families, etc.

You may say your not taking aything, but you are with holding money. t would be like paying a mechanic to fix your car, but not paying him, or havine a carpenter make something for you if you buy the wood.

It's not just games though. We're talking about the basic freedom of information as well. With the revelations in wikileaks has proved that that freedom is very important for holding those in power accountable for their actions yet that freedom is also in danger of disappearing because politicians don't want their dirty dealings being exposed. I wouldn't be surprised that in 20 years at most, freedom of speech laws would be watered down making it illegal to speak the truth and disseminate information which is of the public interest when a political body of any kind could be harmed by it.
A government serves it's people, not the other way around. And certainly not itself. Yet sadly thats not how it is these days. And this is the danger we face.

-Dragmire-:
unrelated note: Is Sweden the country with the Jedi religion?

No that's New Zealand

OT: I was hoping for this to be about pastafarianism not illegal downloading

Just like Scientology they need famous people to make it official!

Finally a religion I can relate to!

brazuca:
Just like Scientology they need famous people to make it official!

Nah they did that with money. Grease the right palms in the US government and you can get anything you want. Including votes. Rather sickening.

What a joke. Stupid made-up religion that means nothing except that the practitioners want to get away with something under the guise of 'faith'.

Now if you'll excuse me, I must visit my altar to Lords Asmodeus and Belphegor, for the 3rd of 4 mandated times today. *Crawls into bed.*

I wish we would stop calling file-sharers pirates. As a native of Charleston, SC, I say there is only one true kind of pirate. And it happens to be the kind that held my city for ransom.

Sounds highly amusing.

Anything that'll help put focus on - and bring an end to - the unfair privileges religions enjoy over secular world views is fine by me. Sweden always had its share of ridiculously puritan laws (like when the legality of Dead or Alive: Dimensions was called into question), so making a fool out of the special and in regard to other world views discriminatory legal respect religion enjoys, by capitalizing on it for questionable gains, is just what's needed.

EternalFacepalm:

Akalabeth:
This retards are probably trying to:
A - make pirating a religion
B - make prosecution of their pirating an attack against their religion

Not knowing the swedish system, that's what I would assume they are doing assuming sweden has a freedom of religion cause.

Either way, I hope they fail. Circumventing the law with hollow loop holes is not acceptable.

I'm sorry, but that seemed slightly ironic to me.

Anyhow, am I the only one thinking this is an actually awesome religion? It's obviously serious, I mean, come on.

Oh ho ho ho, I made a typo, oh ho ho the irony.
Get lost buddy.

No it's not an awesome religion, and frankly it's an affront to people who actually believe in something worthwhile beyond self-serving criminal activity.

Stealthygamer:

OT: I was hoping for this to be about pastafarianism not illegal downloading

Me too, man. Me too.

I was totally prepared to debate the old Pirate vs Ninja on a religious basis but instead I find filesharing Swedes.
This deception can not stand!

Why are they being denied? They're fulfilling the same conditions as every other religion. I don't agree with their views but this is a violation of their rights within the context of Swedish law.

DustyDrB:
I wish we would stop calling file-sharers pirates. As a native of Charleston, SC, I say there is only one true kind of pirate. And it happens to be the kind that held my city for ransom.

The baseball team?

But do remember that ad-blockers will send you to hell.

Jabberwock xeno:

Danik93:
Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)

But should it be illegal?

See, theres the issue.

What we have is essientaly the power to make somthing out of nothing. It takes 0 raw materials to make a digital book, movie, game, etc.

You have a limitless supply of these products. Why not share them? What if we could do this with food or water? would you still call it theft then?

At the same time, I undertsand that people put their time and money into these things, and they lose their sales like this.

This is one of the few issues where I am truly divided in my opinion.

Except that it did cost materials to make it. Not the digital version, the actual version. If I wrote a song, I'm probably inclined to want to make money off of it. If I want to share it for free, then I will. If I want my hard work to be rewarded, then that's my decision. A bunch of people who have never created content in their life can make up all the justification they want for illegally downloading things that someone worked hard to create, but that doesn't make it right. If they want to download music and not pay for it, that's one thing. Moralizing and trying to make themselves look like the good guys is bullshit, though.

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