Valve Hopes to Bring Steamworks to Xbox Live

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Valve Hopes to Bring Steamworks to Xbox Live

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Valve honcho Gabe Newell wants to bring Steamworks to the Xbox 360 but says Microsoft needs to relax a little and get comfortable first.

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is coming to consoles as well as the PC and Valve hopes to bring Steamworks integration to the console versions too, much as it did with the PlayStation 3 version of Portal 2. But while Sony is down with the idea, Newell said Microsoft needs to relax the restrictions on Xbox Live before it can happen.

"We certainly can deliver a lot of value to customers to the degree to which we have those capabilities. With the PS3 obviously we made a lot more progress with that," Newell told Eurogamer. "The PS3 customers of Portal 2 are going to start to see the benefits of that with Portal 2 DLC coming out in September. So we'd really like to be able to do that for Xbox customers as well."

"The main thing is having Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it. Right now, there's a huge amount of updates and free content we've been able to deliver to people who have The Orange Box that we haven't been able to deliver to the Xbox because of the restrictions that have been placed on us on Xbox Live," he continued. "We'd love to see those relaxed."

One of the things Newell hopes will convince Microsoft to unclench a bit is the success Sony is experiencing with its "more open approach."

"Hopefully that will help Microsoft see that's a good strategy for making customers happy, that the barbarians won't tear down the walls of Xbox and turn it into some chaotic wasteland," he said.

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is being developed for the PC, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Mac, and is expected to come out sometime in 2012.

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Ok Andy...I'm down with the words but really...

"relax a little and get comfortable first.", "down with the idea", "Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it.", "We'd love to see those relaxed.", "Microsoft to unclench a bit ", "tear down the walls of Xbox"

...Am I the only one seeing this??

Hasn't Valve said this before but Microsoft are so tight-fisted and closed up with their hardware that it's impossible.

Xbox needs to stop being a little bitch.

I had to go out and rebuy team fortress 2 and left 4 dead 2, because they seemingly have some massive, set in stone, constitution that states.
(A friend bought me my copy of l4d2 pc, because the four pack on sale meant the whooole game with dlc cost less than one dlc on xbox, go figure.)

Charge players money and pay it up, and authenticate the fuck out of content over the course of a couple months.

What planet does pleasing your consumer mean they have to wait months and pay money for stuff other people get day one for free.

How long until Valve puts them both out of business with its own console? Four, five years tops.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Ok Andy...I'm down with the words but really...

"relax a little and get comfortable first.", "down with the idea", "Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it.", "We'd love to see those relaxed.", "Microsoft to unclench a bit ", "tear down the walls of Xbox"

...Am I the only one seeing this??

I personally like: "unclench a bit".

On topic: I hate it when successful people give advice that makes sense and the party the advice was directed at doesn't listen. Hmm... yes. Pride.

I just had the idea of Microsoft handing over the reigns of the Xbox Live infrastructure over to Valve. Boy, was it glorious.

personally i think theres more chance of episode 3 coming out BEFORE micro$oft let steam on the xbox

The_root_of_all_evil:
Ok Andy...I'm down with the words but really...

"relax a little and get comfortable first.", "down with the idea", "Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it.", "We'd love to see those relaxed.", "Microsoft to unclench a bit ", "tear down the walls of Xbox"

...Am I the only one seeing this??

Yeah they're really pressuring them,not cool Valve if you really care you'll have to wait.
But seriously Microsoft should really stop with this strictness I can't see it bringing any good to the industry.

on a not entirely related note: there has never been a flattering picture of Gabe Newell, has there?

TimeLord:
Hasn't Valve said this before but Microsoft are so tight-fisted and closed up with their hardware that it's impossible.

Yeah. Nothing new on the western front.

Meh, Microsoft is never gonna change their stupid rules and that's why I've moved to PS3. It's too bad for all of M$s customers.

Great idea but I doubt we'll see any positive changes on the xbox any time soon.

Maybe Microsoft won't do it because Sony did it first...

I am curious about the 'benefits' PS3 is going to get though

greenice:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Ok Andy...I'm down with the words but really...

"relax a little and get comfortable first.", "down with the idea", "Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it.", "We'd love to see those relaxed.", "Microsoft to unclench a bit ", "tear down the walls of Xbox"

...Am I the only one seeing this??

Yeah they're really pressuring them,not cool Valve if you really care you'll have to wait.
But seriously Microsoft should really stop with this strictness I can't see it bringing any good to the industry.

I think he means more of sexual innuendo than anything.

CleverNickname:
on a not entirely related note: there has never been a flattering picture of Gabe Newell, has there?

When you're as awesome as Gabe you don't need flattering pictures :D

agreeing that microsoft has produces diamonds with their sphincter, they also dont get hacked to bits like the psn...course if they weren't so uptight nobody would want to hack them anyway

mysecondlife:

greenice:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Ok Andy...I'm down with the words but really...

"relax a little and get comfortable first.", "down with the idea", "Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it.", "We'd love to see those relaxed.", "Microsoft to unclench a bit ", "tear down the walls of Xbox"

...Am I the only one seeing this??

Yeah they're really pressuring them,not cool Valve if you really care you'll have to wait.
But seriously Microsoft should really stop with this strictness I can't see it bringing any good to the industry.

I think he means more of sexual innuendo than anything.

I know,so was I, at least before the "but seriously".

The_root_of_all_evil:
Ok Andy...I'm down with the words but really...

"relax a little and get comfortable first.", "down with the idea", "Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it.", "We'd love to see those relaxed.", "Microsoft to unclench a bit ", "tear down the walls of Xbox"

...Am I the only one seeing this??

No.

I saw it in the summary before I clicked the article, and it only got worse. I just wonder if he picked those words on purpose or this was just a happy accident.

Ok, I love valve and all, but isn't it a little hypocritical that they want to be able to use their proprietary service to deliver goods within another companies proprietary service (steamworks in xbl) but they wont let other companies do the same thing in steam (origin in steam).

CleverNickname:
on a not entirely related note: there has never been a flattering picture of Gabe Newell, has there?

Some people are just not photogenic, no matter what the situation is. Sadly, Gabe seems to be one of them.

mysecondlife:
I am curious about the 'benefits' PS3 is going to get though

Well, cross platform PS3-PC gaming is the huge one. We've already seen it in Portal 2, and it's coming soon on a massive scale in the form of Dust 514 (which looks EPIC!).

Kind of a strange thing going on right now in the console world. I can choose between an online service with all the stuff I want but can get hacked to bits, or an online service that is secure but doesn't have the stuff that I really want.

This kind of issues is the reason why I didn't get myself a console and continued to be a happy gamer in PCland.

I'd really love to get myself one of those, but whichever I'll pick I will miss out on something - if I choose Xbox 360 I get better games, but because of MS stance I won't get the goodies that come with Steamworks, and I'd have to pay for the account to unleash it's full potential, which is just ridiculous in these days; if I choose PS3, I get a free PSN that is not currently as good as Live, but has lots of future potential, and Sony allows Steamworks, however the big exclusive titles here are much weaker (Indiana Jones ripoff, Gears Of Wars with space nazis, unaccessible to people that don't know it's backstory Metal Gears Solid 4), and I just hate it's pad.

The hell, I don't want to have to sign in twice to play a god damn game. Maybe pretty soon we'll have ten layers of log ins, and if any one of those 10 decide they don't want to work, we're shit out of luck to play games needed to sign in past that point.

Call me when Counter-Strike: Extreme Gore Edition goes into production.

Oh right, that's Team Fortress 2. Nevermind.

castlewise:
Ok, I love valve and all, but isn't it a little hypocritical that they want to be able to use their proprietary service to deliver goods within another companies proprietary service (steamworks in xbl) but they wont let other companies do the same thing in steam (origin in steam).

They do let other companies do it. Which is why you can buy games that require Games for Windows Live through Steam, for instance.

We don't know the full story of why certain EA games were pulled from Steam. Valve has been mostly quiet, except to say they hoped EA would return one day, while EA tried to make it sound like Valve was being unreasonable.

However, since Valve does allow other companies to do this, we can only assume that the case with Origin is not how EA is making it out to be, and there's more going on.

God I hope not. Part of the reason I love console gaming is to get away from the crap pile PC gaming has become with Steamworks.

So valve's plan to achieve this is what? Turning down the lights and playing some smooth jazz?

Step 1) Own the PC market
Step 2) Own the Console market
Step 3) PROFIT!!!!

Pingieking:

CleverNickname:
on a not entirely related note: there has never been a flattering picture of Gabe Newell, has there?

Some people are just not photogenic, no matter what the situation is. Sadly, Gabe seems to be one of them.

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This isn't a bad one, but no...Gabe's a doer rather than a looker.

psicat:
God I hope not. Part of the reason I love console gaming is to get away from the crap pile PC gaming has become with Steamworks.

How is Steamworks any different from PSN or XBL? Aside from awesome sales anyway.

""Hopefully that will help Microsoft see that's a good strategy for making customers happy, that the barbarians won't tear down the walls of Xbox and turn it into some chaotic wasteland," he said."

Amen to that, Gabe.
And please, loose a little weight before we get to carry your 1 ton coffin to a much too early grave... :\

I mean, my BMI is 18.1, but still.... shed some pounds, man :(

I hope to play TF2 with everyone. If Steamworks on the Xbox ever happens, it should coincide with a console re-release with the updates.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Ok Andy...I'm down with the words but really...

"relax a little and get comfortable first.", "down with the idea", "Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it.", "We'd love to see those relaxed.", "Microsoft to unclench a bit ", "tear down the walls of Xbox"

...Am I the only one seeing this??

I think you just have an extremely dirty mind.
Even though, I laughed my arse off.

S'moorejunk:
I hope to play TF2 with everyone. If Steamworks on the Xbox ever happens, it should coincide with a console re-release with the updates.

for as much as one may want, i dont know if tf2 would run on a console in its current state and still give some decent frames

CleverNickname:
on a not entirely related note: there has never been a flattering picture of Gabe Newell, has there?

image this is all gabe saying haters can hate!

In other news, ValvE announces hopes to change lead into Unobtainoium. News at 11.

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