Skyrim Gets 15 Rating in UK

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Skyrim Gets 15 Rating in UK

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Board cites "strong violence" as the reason behind Skyrim's rating.

Skyrim, the upcoming fifth installment in the Elder Scrolls series, has been awarded a 15 rating by the BBFC. Unlike the ratings from the ESRB in North America, which are technically only advisory, the BBFC ratings are enforceable by law, with UK retailers facing stiff fines if they sell to anyone under the age of 15.

According to the BBFC listing, Skyrim's rating is, at least in part, down to the "strong violence" the game contains. This is actually a step up from Oblivion, which the BBFC considered to only have "moderate violence" back in 2006. Sadly, the BBFC ratings aren't as detailed as their ESRB counterparts, so there are no other details to pluck from it other than it has violence in it, and, let's face it, that's a detail that we already knew.

I'm curious to see what has prompted the upgrade from moderate to strong violence. If I had to guess, I'd say that it was the VATS-style, slow motion kill animations that Bethesda has added to the game are responsible, because most of what we've seen of the fighting so far doesn't look that different from Oblivion in terms of how graphic it is.

Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim comes out for PC, PS3, and Xbox 360 on November 11th.

Source: Strategy Informer

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"Enforceable by law"
Wasn't that basically the whole idea behind California's bill? If that was all that was behind it, and it probably wasn't, then it was a silly thing to get offended by.

The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

It seems like 'they' were right.... it does lead to these types of sick and disgusting life styles.

Meh, it'll be modded far and beyond an "R" rating or 18 within a month anyway. I still nightmares about the screenshots on TESNexus showing full on Argonion on Kajit sex *shudders*

Oh well, at least when ten-year-old Timmy axe-muders his brother because of Skyrim, we'll be able to blame the parents/gamestore rather than the computer game industry.

Logan Westbrook:
I'm curious to see what has prompted the upgrade from moderate to strong violence. If I had to guess, I'd say that it was the VATS-style, slow motion kill animations that Bethesda has added to the game are responsible, because most of what we've seen of the fighting so far doesn't look that different from Oblivion in terms of how graphic it is.

Fallout was rated an 18 over here, so it will apparently be less graphic than the VATS system. If I had to take a stab (hah hah) I'd say it was the stealth assassination animations.

And the bestiality. And (although it wouldn't be admitted openly) the same sex marriages.

EDIT - Also, just checked: Oblivion was a 15 rating as well.

So did oblivion.
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Sober Thal:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

Yep, the mods that will come out for it would likely make it bannable in a few countries if they were including on the disc.

*sells Skyrim to a 14yo"

"STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!!!"

mad825:

Sober Thal:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

/sarcasm

I just want the ability to cut limbs off, like in Fallout 3.

Oblivion was a 15, why is Skyrim being a 15 such a big deal?

Best of the 3:
*sells Skyrim to a 14yo"

"STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!!!"

Damn, Ninja'd.
A tip of the hat to you.

Sober Thal:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

It seems like 'they' were right.... it does lead to these types of sick and disgusting life styles.

It's not like the actual game (not the mods) will feature full-on explicit graphical bestiality.

Besides,

If it acts human, talks human, moves human, is shaped human and looks human then it's probably human.
If it acts human, talks human, moves human and is shaped human then it's probably a human in a suit.

Both Khajit and Argonian share more similarities with humans then with actual cats and lizards. They're humans in suits, not animals.

No why anyone would want to marry a guy/gal in a game who's permanently in a cat or lizard suit I don't know. But I wouldn't call that bestiality...

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Sober Thal:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

Can't tell is if serious.

But if you are, it's okay, I'm pretty sure you can't go around fucking deer in-game (unless Bethesda has confirmed that while I wasn't looking, which I seriously doubt).

And frankly, if someone wants to make a video game about screwing dogs, then more power to them. I'd agree it would be tasteless, but it's not anyone's business but the developer's and the player's.

wow really fallout was 18 in england wow it was Ma 15+ in aus

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Sober Thal:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

Actually, I don't think that you can call it "bestiality". It is between two sentient, consenting adults. What part of that is disgusting?

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Sober Thal:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

mad825:

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

Very very true, and if you had read the above statement correctly, before all this had taken off, you would have seen mad825 had mentioned if it had beastiality, it would have never gotten past the BBFC in the first place.

But on topic, yeah, it was 15 before, its 15 now - So, really, a non-news item in reality.

ultimateownage:
"Enforceable by law"
Wasn't that basically the whole idea behind California's bill? If that was all that was behind it, and it probably wasn't, then it was a silly thing to get offended by.

The thing with that was that video games would have lost the first amendment right and wouldn't have been allowed to be advertised on TV like cigarettes.(I think, not sure about the TV part).

The age thing wasn't really what everyone cared about

mad825:

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

Calm down? Okay, we are all animals, so bestiality doesn't exist, great logic there. Fur, scales, and human skin are all the same. Warm blood, cold blood, eggs, fetus, who's counting? There's a saying about things being a certain color on the inside... I won't say it, cause that's fucking sick too when mentioned in this context.

I guess you, and all the people who fight for these kinds of rights, are in the clear. I'm just a dude that finds these types of things disgusting. I guess me saying that is wrong.

Sorry to all you people out there who find this type of thing acceptable.

: P

/sarcasm.... you really killed my logic on this one! You animal!

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Sober Thal:

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

Calm down? Okay, we are all animals, so bestiality doesn't exist, great logic there. Fur, scales, and human skin are all the same. Warm blood, cold blood, eggs, fetus, who's counting? There's a saying about things being a certain color on the inside... I won't say it, cause that's fucking sick too when mentioned in this context.

I guess you, and all the people who fight for these kinds of rights, are in the clear. I'm just a dude that finds these types of things disgusting. I guess me saying that is wrong.

Sorry to all you people out there who find this type of thing acceptable.

: P

/sarcasm.... you really killed my logic on this one! You animal!

Expect that we all behave the same, you as a prime example.

Sober Thal:
The game condones bestiality... it should be adults only for the rating.

It seems like 'they' were right.... it does lead to these types of sick and disgusting life styles.

Can people stop getting Bestiality and Yiffing mixed up please? Thanks.

OT: Oblivion was a 15, hardly a surprise.

Best of the 3:
*sells Skyrim to a 14yo"

"STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!!!"

:D

OT: Actually, it'd probably be best if I stayed quiet. You never know... >.>

I'd suggest that in the Skyrim world, all these races are, on some level, only an extreme version of that lizard guy, or the guy who's turning himself into a cat, thru the use of tattoos and body modification.

Shagging him would be weird, sure, but not bestial.

ultimateownage:
"Enforceable by law"
Wasn't that basically the whole idea behind California's bill? If that was all that was behind it, and it probably wasn't, then it was a silly thing to get offended by.

As for that, I agree, but unfortunately the US law was kinda tied up in a lot of other stuff, and if it was passed that we could legally enforce age limits, then it strips all gaming of its protection as 'art', and effectively reclassifies it in a category with pornography. (I could be entirely wrong here, feel free to correct me, but that's my understanding of it, I remember it being far more complicated than just 'legal age rating'.)

That's more why we were up in arms, I think if in the US we could have had a legal age rating system without throwing away all of the rights video games should have, most gamers would be right behind it.

If nothing else, every time the media throw up a shitstorm about the next GTA or MW game, we can just go 'its rated 18, shut your stupid face, and tell your viewers to do some parenting...next!'

mad825:

Sober Thal:

mad825:

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

Calm down? Okay, we are all animals, so bestiality doesn't exist, great logic there. Fur, scales, and human skin are all the same. Warm blood, cold blood, eggs, fetus, who's counting? There's a saying about things being a certain color on the inside... I won't say it, cause that's fucking sick too when mentioned in this context.

I guess you, and all the people who fight for these kinds of rights, are in the clear. I'm just a dude that finds these types of things disgusting. I guess me saying that is wrong.

Sorry to all you people out there who find this type of thing acceptable.

: P

/sarcasm.... you really killed my logic on this one! You animal!

Expect that we all behave the same, you as a prime example.

Your point being we are all animals and thus guilty of bestiality is a point of concern. That being said, I have never had sexual relations with anything other than a human. Me being a prime example of behaving the same as an animal is rather insulting. Care to explain that a bit more?

For science, eh?

EDIT: To say humans behave the same as animals is rather narrow minded. It's also not true ya know, eh?

I bought Manhunt before the ban at about 10 years old, most shops don't care from what I've found. It's not the end of the world even if it is, get someone to buy it for you if underage or since you're 14 your parents will be buying it anyway just have them buy it online.

This shouldn't be an issue.

Wait, ESRB are only advisory? Does that mean a 12 year old kid in America would be able to purchase Grand Theft Auto?

That's pretty awesome. (Or not... I'm really not sure if I should be scared by that or not)

mad825:

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Actually,under the BBFC that's enough for the game to get banned in the UK.

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

I don't think he means it like that.

The vibe I'm getting is that he's pissed that Argonians, and, Khajit have the same in-game romance potential as the other races. Thus implicated sex. Which he considers bestiality because their not entirely human.

But my personal opinion is that he has a stick way too far up his ass.

The level of the rating isn't what surprises me (because, yeah, Oblivion etc). What does surprise me is that it's a BBFC rating, 'cos that was meant to be replaced by PEGI (which we've been using for ages but is only advisory) as the legally enforceable rating system by... I think 'round about now actually, but certainly by the time Skyrim comes out.

RichardThompson:
So did oblivion.
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I was about to mention this if games or films have violence in the uk they get a 15 certificate.Makes sence to me that is why oblivion got a 15 and why Skyrim will to.

Sober Thal:

mad825:

Sober Thal:

I have no idea what the BBFC is supposed to be, but if it also condones bestiality, then it can rot in hell. This kind of sick shit should be prohibited from entertainment industries.

The fact that kids are saying: "Herp derp, it's okay to fuck animals in my video games!" is really disgusting.

Shame on you all.

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

Calm down? Okay, we are all animals, so bestiality doesn't exist, great logic there. Fur, scales, and human skin are all the same. Warm blood, cold blood, eggs, fetus, who's counting? There's a saying about things being a certain color on the inside... I won't say it, cause that's fucking sick too when mentioned in this context.

I guess you, and all the people who fight for these kinds of rights, are in the clear. I'm just a dude that finds these types of things disgusting. I guess me saying that is wrong.

Sorry to all you people out there who find this type of thing acceptable.

: P

/sarcasm.... you really killed my logic on this one! You animal!

You would have an argument if there was actually bestiality in the game. There isn't. The closest you'll get is furry/anthro, which again isn't bestiality.

It's a non-issue. You're getting offended by absolutely fucking nothing.

yeah the old one was 15 too.

The parents don't care anyway, I had a man buy saints row for 6-8 yo boy once, I warned him what was in it and he was like "eh, s'ok I'll get it anyway" such blatant disregard for the childs impressionable age, theres frigging bongs in that game, that game will teach that kid how to smoke a friggin blunt ffs, kids should be given at least a little more innocence before they are exposed to that stuff.

I'm pretty sure you could actually smoke bongs in the first saints row, I know they made up a pretend drug that you smoked in blunts in the 2nd but im sure the first was bonafide weed. I know it's full of booze and hookers.

ultimateownage:
"Enforceable by law"
Wasn't that basically the whole idea behind California's bill? If that was all that was behind it, and it probably wasn't, then it was a silly thing to get offended by.

Nah, what made that law awful was that it was completely pointless and a waste of time since games already enjoy the highest compliance rating of any media in the US.

Meaning fewer kids are getting violent games than they are violent movies/tv shows/music/ect. It was a pointless law that just pissed away money that could have been spent on many other more important things.

That's why I was pissed off at it at least.

Rorschach II:
Wait, ESRB are only advisory? Does that mean a 12 year old kid in America would be able to purchase Grand Theft Auto?

That's pretty awesome. (Or not... I'm really not sure if I should be scared by that or not)

No, because stores follow the ESRB. And an employee that does sell a violent game to a minor will most likely be fired.

TestECull:

Sober Thal:

mad825:

The British Broadcast Film Classification is a bureaucratic censor board, they ban any content containing any form of bestiality and sexual violence. They fact they haven't banned it means there's no bestiality.

Dude you need to clam down. To kill your logic, we are animals.

Calm down? Okay, we are all animals, so bestiality doesn't exist, great logic there. Fur, scales, and human skin are all the same. Warm blood, cold blood, eggs, fetus, who's counting? There's a saying about things being a certain color on the inside... I won't say it, cause that's fucking sick too when mentioned in this context.

I guess you, and all the people who fight for these kinds of rights, are in the clear. I'm just a dude that finds these types of things disgusting. I guess me saying that is wrong.

Sorry to all you people out there who find this type of thing acceptable.

: P

/sarcasm.... you really killed my logic on this one! You animal!

You would have an argument if there was actually bestiality in the game. There isn't. The closest you'll get is furry/anthro, which again isn't bestiality.

It's a non-issue. You're getting offended by absolutely fucking nothing.

It's the 'fucking lizard people, cat people, orc people' ect, that I'm talking about. Actually, it's more about the marriage that concerns me. Breeding between the species is kinda fucking wrong.

EDIT: To be honest tho, I do love that line in Brain Candy when they talk about a pig and a bat fucking for the sake of porn... classic.

EDIT 2: So if it can walk and talk, it's okay? What if it can communicate only with sign language? What if it was just a monkey/ape/chimp... is that okay too? lol... what a silly thread this is, what silly thing I am saying!! I still think the idea is fucking gross.

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