After Arkham City, Rocksteady May Fly With Superman

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After Arkham City, Rocksteady May Fly With Superman

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The man who wrote Arkham City thinks Rocksteady should consider Superman (or Captain Marvel or Green Lantern) for its next game.

With Batman: Arkham City hitting store shelves soon, folks are starting to wonder what developer Rocksteady's next project might be. The studio itself hasn't made any announcements, but Paul Dini (who wrote Arkham Asylum and Arkham City) thinks a new superhero needs to get the videogame treatment, and he's got a couple of suggestions about who it should be.

Dini, who is no stranger to the DC Universe thanks to his tenure as a writer for the shows that made up Bruce Timm's DC Animated Universe, took some time to speak about the development group's future plans. While the man didn't announce anything definite, he did say that he thinks that Rocksteady should do a game adaptation based on one of the more fantastical DC characters:

"Well Batman is pretty much real world-centric. So if I was going to do another comic book based game I would probably want a hero that had, you know - I would probably want to amp it up a bit as far as the power level goes and do more of a superhero with more superpowers.

"Batman is pretty much a self-trained guy, I think it would be fun to do a character like Superman or Captain Marvel or maybe Green Lantern, somebody who's got a completely different resource for fighting crime and fighting villains.

"Maybe a magical character. The DC universe is filled with them. I love Batman and I always will but if I was going to do another one I would probably pick one in a completely different setting with a completely different power scheme. He's [Superman] pretty much the number one in the DC pantheon, and I think not enough has been done with him to make him a character, as he's got amazing powers, he can fly super fast and everything, but also there's a level to his character that I don't think has been explored yet in video games to kind of get underneath who he is and into his heart a little bit.

I think there's a lot of reinvention being done on Superman at the moment, both in the comics and in the movies and I think it would be fun to revisit that character and kind of see what makes him tick."

I'd love to see Rocksteady tackle a Superman game. So far, Kal El's best appearance in a video game was Shadow of Apokolips; though it was fun, it was by no means a great game. That said, Rocksteady could probably make a quality title based around any DC character ... well, other than Wild Dog. Nobody could make that dude cool.

Source: Gigwise via Comic Book Movie

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I just don't see Superman that way, I mean they would have to work hard just to find a way that you can actually die in the game (when other civilains die?) and there doesn't seem to be the same challenges that the dude has to overcome

OH boy.
Well if they go through with it, I hope they can actually go further than just making the flying fun. Smooth combat, better use of Superman's strength, such as actually putting down a car without chucking it at the Puppy and Kitten Orphanage.

BrotherRool:
I just don't see Superman that way, I mean they would have to work hard just to find a way that you can actually die in the game (when other civilains die?) and there doesn't seem to be the same challenges that the dude has to overcome

Start with fighting Doomsday, then work their way through Aopoklips and Darkseid and end with the Anti-Monitor.

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I dunno I thought "The Death and Return of Superman" video game on the snes was pretty damn fun, back in the day.

If they can do what they did with Batman I have faith in their ability to make a good Superman game. Though personally I'd prefer Green Lantern if we're going to the DC IP Well.

A good Superman game? That would be undeniably awesome.

Heck, let's just make Rocksteady the Superhero Guys. Let 'em cover all the bases - Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Spiderman (Please!), X-men, Avengers... After all, they seem to "get" superheroes like nobody else. Why not let 'em use it!

o rocksteady you really are after my heart.
but if they want to do a superman game its either going to have to take place on another planet or have granny goodness brainwash other superheroes into fighting him. otherwise everyone will complain about how overpowered he is

I'd like to see a Green Lantern game with huge sprawling levels. Exploring Coast City (or where ever Hal lives) and Oa would be a blast. And being able to turn your Suit on and off would add for some extra fun.

Whoa.

Angry Joe actually got his wish.

The_root_of_all_evil:
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Well, Zatanna's current look is modeled after Dini's wife, Misty Lee.

I say its about damn time that the man of steel got a game that did him justice. superman games in the past have range from horrible to kind of decent. He's the worlds most famous superhero, and he deserves a great game to call his own, I think people would become a lot more familiar with his rogues gallery as well, everyone knows batmans enemies, but barely anyone knows about supermans villians. Also, at some point I'd love to see rocksteady doing other dc characters like The Flash, Wonder Woman, Dr Fate, Zatanna,(Dini's personal favorite) and my all time favorite, Green Arrow! Thank you for this statement Paul Dini, you truly are a great storyteller, and I am with you 100 percent, people need to become familiar with more DC characters other than the worlds finest( Supes and Bats), but yeah, a superman game with the same attention to detail as the arkham games, with a plethora of classic superman villians, and fun gameplay would be a perfect follow up for now.

vansau:

The_root_of_all_evil:
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Well, Zatanna's current look is modeled after Dini's wife, Misty Lee.

He ALWAYS had a love of magicians and when He said "Magicians" I knew he was talking about Zatanna.

I would love to see a Flash Game.

This is the closest I will ever see.

How about Green Lantern fused with Prototype? Going from giant fists and swords to a laser beam sounds pretty damn fun.

vansau:

Well, Zatanna's current look is modeled after Dini's wife, Misty Lee.

And from what I hear...in the reboot she's married to Constantine...

Somehow, I'm having problems with that mental image.

I am extreme dissapoint if this the case. Never liked Superman just a God character, not human, just all around boring in my opinion. One of my friends said it seems like he was designed by a 5 year old, I'd have to agree. But Rocksteady us pretty baller so it still warrants my attention (:

Superman is the only DC character comparable to Batman in popularity, you go with any other characters you've got an immeadiate drop in namebrand recognisability. Superman games have historically been extraordinarily crappy. Superman and other very powerful/esoteric characters are much more difficult to conceptualise in a videogame (Marvel's characters generally are a bit fit).

Don't get me wrong, I'm comicbook fan, and of course I'd love to see more great/good games based on them, but the challenges of doing so with much of DC's catalogue are considerable and from a marketing perspective it really needs to be one of the biggest names.

All that said, I think a game intelligently based on the Flash could be very interesting. Wonder Woman is fairly straightforward.

Characters like Green Lantern/Martian Manhunter/Zatanna are way to versatile to capture properly.

Nah, they should do Spiderman. except would they work with marvel instead of dc? besides how many awesome villans does superman have? I don't even know much about batman, but I always think Baaatsy because of the joker.

I've always liked Superman and always thought he got a bum rap by people who couldn't see past his powers. There's a deeply interesting character there, and if anyone can bring it out, Rocksteady are probably the ones to do it

BrotherRool:
I just don't see Superman that way, I mean they would have to work hard just to find a way that you can actually die in the game (when other civilains die?) and there doesn't seem to be the same challenges that the dude has to overcome

Superman is a pretty awful choice for a game character. It might be doable, but it'd be so much easier to get a good game out other characters from Marvel or DCU.

What makes Batman great are two things: he has no powers and he has the greatest rogues gallery in the history of all media. Arkham Asylum worked because Bats had to face so many of his foes at once with only his gadgets, martial arts, and detective skills to guide him. Arkham City will be even better because it adds even more gadgets and villains.

Superman is too superpowered and doesn't have as many recognizable villains to be able to translate into something as great as Rocksteady's Batman games.

Green Lantern? Yes. Captain Marvel? Yes. Superman? No. Fucking no. He is an extremely boring character to have a game like the Arkham games based around. The villains are weak, and having pretty much every super power ever kind of cheapens the whole experience.

At this point, I'd trust them with darn near any IP, they've earned enough respect for that much.

A great Superman game? Yes please! Yet honestly... I'd rather see some other characters explored.
Green Latern is a great choice since his powers open up a large amount of creativity on their part and I'd kill to see Kyle Rayner's Green Lantern Construct of Gurren Lagann appear in a game!
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Flash would make an interesting one too, as well as a few other super heroes.

I just can't see a superman game working. It's all or nothing with him. Either he's unstoppable and it's no fun because there's no challenge, or someone has kryptonite and you may aswell just play as Joe Average.

I have to admit, the thought of a Superman game with tight controls kind of baffles me. You've got to be able to switch to flying and picking up cars and zapping villains with your heat vision seamlessly. Superman does kind of spread himself thin with superpowers, so it's kind of reasonable to see why the Superman curse exists.

That's the thing: Superman is also too powerful. Playing him leaves you with (ironically) way too many choices. He'd be a pretty boring character to play because once you can do everything, there really isn't much anything else to do, if you understand. There's not much to work for unless the writers can make the villains very convincing.

I wouldn't fault Rocksteady if they didn't want to do a Superman game, and frankly although I trust them more than any other studio, I think they'd have better luck making Aquaman look good.

Green Lantern would probably be their best bet. That setting in particular is probably the most flexible of the three suggested (I say probably because I really don't know much about Captain Marvel). But if they want to go the lazy route, Nightwing (Dick Grayson).

But on the other hand, if they can get a license from Marvel, they've got a lot to work with.

Forsvaine:
I have to admit, the thought of a Superman game with tight controls kind of baffles me. You've got to be able to switch to flying and picking up cars and zapping villains with your heat vision seamlessly. Superman does kind of spread himself thin with superpowers, so it's kind of reasonable to see why the Superman curse exists.

That's the thing: Superman is also too powerful. Playing him leaves you with (ironically) way too many choices. He'd be a pretty boring character to play because once you can do everything, there really isn't much anything else to do, if you understand. There's not much to work for unless the writers can make the villains very convincing.

I wouldn't fault Rocksteady if they didn't want to do a Superman game, and frankly although I trust them more than any other studio, I think they'd have better luck making Aquaman look good.

Green Lantern would probably be their best bet. That setting in particular is probably the most flexible of the three suggested (I say probably because I really don't know much about Captain Marvel). But if they want to go the lazy route, Nightwing (Dick Grayson).

But on the other hand, if they can get a license from Marvel, they've got a lot to work with.

this, only longer then i was planning XD

but why not a wonder woman game, just to throw people

Beast Boy or Cyborg would be quite fun.

Hell what about Starfire? (Sorry just watched Teen Titans xD)

Okay, if anyone could do a good Superman game, it would be Rocksteady. But there would be a few big problems in a Superman game. In Arkham Asylum, you could find new areas in earlier areas by using new gadgets. However, Superman doesn't have that issue and making him gain his powers would be stupid. So, the game couldn't really have the same design as Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.

Then we have the combat mechanic. One of the fundamental things is that when Batman battles goons, he uses his martial arts superiority and counter attacks to beat them senseless. Superman counterattacking like Batman wouldn't seem right because he's not got the same training as Batman. On top of that Superman, a nigh immortal, super strong, super fast, invulnerable, god among men fighting goons wouldn't work. Because either they could actually hurt him (think about that) or they couldn't even phase him.

And there would be similar issues with other characters, like Green Lantern.

With some work, and in the right environment, Superman could make a good game. And if there's a developer that even has a chance of making a good game that wouldn't piss off fans, it's Rocksteady.

However, I think Wonder Woman could work much better. Yes, she has superpowers, but she also has serious combat training. So Wonder Woman fighting similar to Batman and preforming counters would work out well. And she could gain combat abilities similar to the way Batman did in Arkham Asylum. She also has a nice assortment of powers and equipment that could work well in gameplay, like her lasso and bracelets. She's not the most famous of the DC superheroes, but people know her. And I think it would be an interesting twist.

I was just thinking a Flash game might be cool, kudos to anyone else who said so. It would be nice to get a good superman game as there is potential there but... and maybe this is a side effect of reading Seven Soldiers recently, but couldn't we have a game with multiple comic characters who each play very differently and a subtly woven plot. Okay, I'll come out and say it, SEVEN SOLDIERS PLEASE!!! You could satisfy everyone: Crazy trippy magic sequences with Zatanna, strange adventures from a unique perspective with Klarion, epic action scenes with Frankenstein and The Guardian, comic misadventures with Bulleteer, the bizarre confusion and deeply trying adventure of The Shining Knight, and last but not least we can have some kind of crazy escape based game mechanic for Mister Miracle. All converging on the biggest crisis that the big guys all missed out on! Think of the potential!!!

Edit: To expand on my statement about the potential of a superman game as not a lot of people are seeing how one could threaten superman. That's simple, what's the one comic premise (aside from kryptonite, which is just cheap) that has always threatened superman?: Time. He's always racing against time to save everyone (and no, he can't rewind time, that was absurd), so you need to make a game that is about speed, moving fast enough to save lois, the full tram that's about to fall onto a crowded city street, while fighting a massive robot and stopping bits of debris from hurting nearby children watching in awe, all with plenty of time to stop Lex Luthor's escape attempt and expose his plan to bring the world banks under his control.

So, yeah, A Supes game shouldn't be about fighting (though it totally shouldn't ignore it and there will have to be some epic bosses), it should be about speed and heroics.

Superman Game!?

STOP! CEASE! GET OUT OF THERE ROCKSTEADY! GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A CHAAAANNCCCEEEE!

Seriously, don't they realize that fucking character is cursed!? I love rocksteady for what they did with Arkham Asylum and i don't want to see the superman curse get them.

Superman would be pure meh

How about Batman Beyond since there hasn't been a game based on that....it may still be Batman but it's a way different Batman with loads of different villains aswell they could use especially Blight, Spellbinder, Mad Stan, Curare etc etc. Plus a new story based in that universe would be great and can easily get the dark edge like the Arkham games since it has been given the dark edge when the movie came out which they had the cut some stuff out for the edited versions (Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker)

It wouldn't be that hard to come up with something for Supes, I think. A mold for a superman-like game already exists in--yes--Zone of The Enders: The Second Runner. Where the player faces hordes of oncoming enemies that he/she has to dispatch from all directions.

The only issue I see with it is that that would mean constricting the storyline to the more fanatstical sci-fi approaches of the Superman mythology and eschew the notion of him fighting anything lesser than rivals that are comparable in strength; that means more Darksyde and less Lex Luthor, unless the latter spits out a robot army, or something.

I would love to see a mature take on a Wonder Woman game that is deep into greek mythos and current events. Her abilities should be down played to the WW animated movie with no flying, can deflect projectiles with her wrist, can use her lasso, and can use her magic sword later for non-human battles.

Frankly, I say to hell with Supes and Green Lantern. Superman is not an interesting character, and Green Lantern doesn't have enough of an identity in the public mind to warrant a good-selling game. The Rocksteady people did, in my opinion, a seriously good job with Arkham Asylum (with Arkham City looking like a lot of fun, judging by the trailers). Let's bring Frank Miller together with Rocksteady, and get a freaking Sin City game in the works. It's been long enough since the novels came out, plus all of the actors from the movie are still in fine shape to do voices. It could be a ton of fun.

If he is the consummate super hero with a wide variety of powers and unwavering code of justice then I don't see how a game could be made if he could literally blow on a group of enemies and freeze them. A superhero game like Arkham Asylum needs a hero that is incredibly powerful but still human. If you were to replace Superman with Batman in Arkham Asylum the game would be over in five minutes plus all the riddler puzzles and completed.

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