Employees Claim EB Canada is Dropping Preowned Sections

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Phoenix Arrow:

CrystalShadow:
-Sigh-

Welcome to the situation in England. More or less. Although they do seem to be taking it to a new extreme here.

Both Game and GameStation, while still having dedicated second hand sections routinely mix new and used copies together on the same shelf.

The second-hand sections contain older titles you can't find new anyway, and the other section contains a more or less random mix of new & used games.

The only dedicated 'new only' section is PC games, and then only because you can't really sell second-hand PC games. (Although, believe it or not, Gamestation does. - Which came as a huge surprise to me.)

I don't know what game shops you're going to pal. I live in Southampton, there's 4 GAME shops here and one Gamestation and none of them do that. Well, I haven't been to Gamestation for years so I don't know if they do that.

Regardless, the video game market in the UK is in a position that there are what? 3 major video game retail chains? GAME who are ridiculous. Seriously, I went to buy a game there once, couldn't see it on the shelf, asked someone if they had it and they told me the game was a Sony exclusive and wouldn't be released on the 360. So I went to HMV and they had it. HMV. I forgot they even sold games.
Then there's Gamestation. Who are owned by GAME and I'm convinced they only exist so there's an illusion of choice.
Apart from that, there's CeX which is more a pawn shop than anything else. They mostly sell games, but they also sell electronic goods and porn with dodgy titles. They only sell pre-owned games, but at least their rates are fair, both for buying and selling.

But buying video games on high street in this day and age is a mugs game. Here's my advice, from me to all gamers. Use http://www.shopto.net/. Free 1st class delivery and they dispatch games so quickly.

Well if they don't do it in your area, that's great and all, but there are 4 'Game' stores in my area, 3 Gamestation, two HMV stores... As well as ASDA's game department,

ALL of which mix new & used games together.

So you can say it doesn't happen in your area, but it's going on in every place that sells both second-hand & new games that I've been to in the last several years...

As to Gamestation and game being the same thing... That's only been the case since last year. I know it's still pretty dodgy, but that's what happens these days.
Plenty of industries are like that. (Have a look on supermarket shelves and check how many 'competing' products are made by the same company.)

CrystalShadow:
As to Gamestation and game being the same thing... That's only been the case since last year. I know it's still pretty dodgy, but that's what happens these days.

Nope. The second the started to get big, they were bought out by Blockbuster who tried to outdo Game the only way they know how, by putting shops everywhere they could. So then Game bought them from Blockbuster... I want to say 5 years ago? Something like that.

But that's not all. Gamestation originally tried to get people to come to them instead of Game by offering more deals. Pretty much every game that was outside of the top 10 was 2 for £x. So Game had to try and outdo them with those deals. Now though, Game own Gamestation, so they don't have to do that. So you might've noticed there are basically no deals in Game shops and the amount of money you have to pay for Gamestation deals has increased.

That's the situation, and now noone can stop them. Except ASDA. God help us.

Phoenix Arrow:

CrystalShadow:
As to Gamestation and game being the same thing... That's only been the case since last year. I know it's still pretty dodgy, but that's what happens these days.

Nope. The second the started to get big, they were bought out by Blockbuster who tried to outdo Game the only way they know how, by putting shops everywhere they could. So then Game bought them from Blockbuster... I want to say 5 years ago? Something like that.

But that's not all. Gamestation originally tried to get people to come to them instead of Game by offering more deals. Pretty much every game that was outside of the top 10 was 2 for £x. So Game had to try and outdo them with those deals. Now though, Game own Gamestation, so they don't have to do that. So you might've noticed there are basically no deals in Game shops and the amount of money you have to pay for Gamestation deals has increased.

That's the situation, and now noone can stop them. Except ASDA. God help us.

Yes... That seems to be what happens though. Honestly, the gulf between the theory behind capitalism, and the reality is so wide it's almost a joke that there's so many people that think capitalism actually works.

But that's a completely different kind of discussion in the end.

CrystalShadow:
Yes... That seems to be what happens though. Honestly, the gulf between the theory behind capitalism, and the reality is so wide it's almost a joke that there's so many people that think capitalism actually works.

But that's a completely different kind of discussion in the end.

Well, I think people don't know exactly how Games parent company operates. There used to be game shops called Future Zone. The company that ran those were given a bunch of money and support from EB in return for however much of their income. I don't know the numbers obviously. But anyway, they went about buying smaller companies, one of which were GAME. They must've thought "hey, that's a good name for a GAME shop" and rebranding all their stores as GAME.

So they put themselves into a position where any challenger could easily be crushed or bought out. The only companies they left alone were woefully incompetant, like ePlay and that shop that went to some industry event a flung condoms at people.

But you know what's interesting now? They're being suffocated by people ordering games online. They recently shut one of their stores near me and I'm sure it's not the only one.

Phoenix Arrow:

CrystalShadow:
Yes... That seems to be what happens though. Honestly, the gulf between the theory behind capitalism, and the reality is so wide it's almost a joke that there's so many people that think capitalism actually works.

But that's a completely different kind of discussion in the end.

Well, I think people don't know exactly how Games parent company operates. There used to be game shops called Future Zone. The company that ran those were given a bunch of money and support from EB in return for however much of their income. I don't know the numbers obviously. But anyway, they went about buying smaller companies, one of which were GAME. They must've thought "hey, that's a good name for a GAME shop" and rebranding all their stores as GAME.

So they put themselves into a position where any challenger could easily be crushed or bought out. The only companies they left alone were woefully incompetant, like ePlay and that shop that went to some industry event a flung condoms at people.

But you know what's interesting now? They're being suffocated by people ordering games online. They recently shut one of their stores near me and I'm sure it's not the only one.

That's not really a huge surprise. Online retailers have a massive advantage over traditional retailers. But... There's nothing stopping the same thing happening all over again.
(Eg, some huge online retailer takes over or crushes all the competition.)

In fact, Microsoft got a reputation for being an evil empire not so much for what it did to it's customers, but what it did to it's competitors.

Which is summed up in an infamous phrase apparently attributed to someone at microsoft. (But who knows really.)

Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.

Or to put it differently, Take over your competitors, and if that fails copy their stuff and use the massive disparity in resources to crush them.
(After all, who cares if you make a loss for a few years if it results in all your competitors going out of business?)

CrystalShadow:
That's not really a huge surprise. Online retailers have a massive advantage over traditional retailers. But... There's nothing stopping the same thing happening all over again.
(Eg, some huge online retailer takes over or crushes all the competition.)

Well, it's certainly a possibility. But fortunately there are already enough massive shopping websites out there that noone has the pockets to buy any of them out. I mean you've got the likes of Play and Amazon, then if you're talking about games specifically, you've got smaller sites like Shopto and then retail places that are starting to move online like HMV. Not forgetting the rise digital distribution sites and you can always fall back on eBay.

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