U.K. Politician Keith Vaz Hates Modern Warfare 3

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U.K. Politician Keith Vaz Hates Modern Warfare 3

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Notorious game-hater and U.K. Parliamentarian Keith Vaz has tabled an "Early Day Motion" expressing concern about Modern Warfare 3 and the link between videogames and real-world violence.

Keith Vaz, for those who aren't familiar with the name, is basically the U.K.'s equivalent of Leland Yee. He claims to like videogames despite a tendency to blame them for all the ills that plague modern society, and he uses the release of high-profile titles like Modern Warfare 3 to score easy political points among constituents who don't know any better. In fact, here's a surprise: Modern Warfare 3 is the latest target of his political grandstanding.

"That this House is deeply concerned about the recently released video game Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, in which players engage in gratuitous acts of violence against members of the public," he said in an Early Day Motion tabled earlier this month. "[It] notes in particular the harrowing scenes in which a London Underground train is bombed by terrorists, bearing a remarkable resemblance to the tragic events of 7 July 2005; further notes that there is increasing evidence of a link between perpetrators of violent crime and violent video games users; and calls on the British Board of Film Classification to take further precautions when allowing a game to be sold."

What further precautions could the BBFC take, aside from ruling that the sale of the game to anyone under the age of 18 is illegal? Vaz didn't say but it's not too hard to imagine that he longs for the good old days when the rating agency packed a bit more of a hair-trigger banhammer. Fortunately, Vaz's fellow MP and Labour Party member Tom Watson proposed a rather thorough amendment to the motion expressing support for the game and the BBFC.

"Leave out from 'House' to end and add 'notes that the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) gave the video game Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 an 18 classification, noting that 'the game neither draws upon nor resembles real terrorist attacks on the underground'," the amendment says. "'[It] further believes that the game has an excellent user interface and challenges the gamers' dexterity as well as collaborative skills in an outline setting; and encourages the BBFC to uphold the opinion of the public that whilst the content of video games may be unsettling or upsetting to some, adults should be free to choose their own entertainment in the absence of legal issues or material which raises a risk or harm'."

Based on my understanding of Parliamentary procedure, neither the original motion nor the amendment actually mean a whole lot. The former is Vaz doing his best to stay in the spotlight; the latter is Tom Watson messing with him. And you thought the inner workings of government were dull.

via: MCV

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I bet a lot of MW3 gamers went out and bombed subways after seeing it in the game.

WE CAN'T HELP IT! WE IMITATE WHAT WE SEE!

Why, just yesterday, I jumped out of a VTOL buck naked, pulled a parachute out of God knows where, and parasailed into a ring of smoke my homies set up for me.

Then I got in a fight with a dude dressed like a can of cola.

"[It] notes in particular the harrowing scenes in which a London Underground train is bombed by terrorists, bearing a remarkable resemblance to the tragic events of 7 July 2005"

A form of media taking inspiration from current or past events? Oh the horror, I'm going to lock myself i my house and watch Law and Order since it always says it's entirely fictional!

Keith Vaz.

MP for Leicester East.

Generally held in as much high regard here as Michael Atkinson is in Australia. For very similar reasons.

Generally makes fatwas on books, accepts bribes, pushes paperwork through illegally, lies to Parliament, makes up facts on games, has been suspended from the House of Commons, has lied to the House of Commons and is a pretty notorious conman.

You'll note that I don't say "allegedly", because that's all been proven.

He's a vile, repugnant excuse for a politician that is singularly responsible for negative stereotypes of Asian men being reinforced.

And Tom Watson? He's the guy that said News International was the equivalent of the Mafia.

He's got cojones.

Andy Chalk:

"That this House is deeply concerned about the recently released video game Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, in which players engage in gratuitous acts of violence against members of the public,"
"[It] notes in particular the harrowing scenes in which a London Underground train is bombed by terrorists, bearing a remarkable resemblance to the tragic events of 7 July 2005;

Huh.... I could have sworn I was one of the good guys chasing the terrorists, in an attempt to STOP them from killing any members of the public.

This time around we didn't get a chance to shoot a single civilian (as far as I know)

Obvious Battlefront Fanboy is Obvious.

Amusingly Rock Paper Shotgun's article http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/23/ban-call-of-duty-3-cries-keith-vaz/ notes that he's getting angry at "Call of Duty 3". I thought that one was WW2, but I'm obviously less informed than this troll who's wasting my tax money.

Pff. Politicians should keep their efforts to lie focused on more important matters. When he said he liked video games he probably means that he politely spent about 5 minutes being awful at Wii bowling and then awkwardly sat down again.

'Keeping you warm at night? Tom Fucking Watson.' I wonder if anyone will get that reference...
Anyway... THIS is news?
Notorious game-hater hates game.
STOP THE PRESSES.
:P

As i say everytime someone claims theres a link between violence and games, there are games that have sold millions of copies, violent ones at that, so if games make people violent, why havent there been hordes of gamers everywhere murdering people?
Because there is no evidence, no one has been able to prove that only a game (when its been linked to a killing) was the one and only reason.

If anyone meantions one of several cases where like a 10 year old played gta then went out and killed a younger kid, these games are rated 18 for a reason, cause kids shouldnt be playing them, yet the parents who are happy to let their kids play these games never get blamed.

Oh and ive played most of the mainstream violent games various media or politics peoples say cause violence, yet im known as a fairly peaceful guy, actually its been noted that ive become less violent since i began playing games fairly regually.
So i can actually use myself as a case.example of how this link to violence is rubbish, cause it is really, you might as well say facebook causes violence for all the evidence there is.

Come back when someone whos played a disney game has gone on a killing spree, so when its a kids game and not just certain games, until then you cant even claim its videogames as a whole like they are so fond of doing.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Keith Vaz.

MP for Leicester East.

Generally held in as much high regard here as Michael Atkinson is in Australia. For very similar reasons.

Generally makes fatwas on books, accepts bribes, pushes paperwork through illegally, lies to Parliament, makes up facts on games, has been suspended from the House of Commons, has lied to the House of Commons and is a pretty notorious conman.

You'll note that I don't say "allegedly", because that's all been proven.

He's a vile, repugnant excuse for a politician that is singularly responsible for negative stereotypes of Asian men being reinforced.

And Tom Watson? He's the guy that said News International was the equivalent of the Mafia.

He's got cojones.

and this man has managed to keep his job... how?

dickywebster:
As i say everytime someone claims theres a link between violence and games, there are games that have sold millions of copies, violent ones at that, so if games make people violent, why havent there been hordes of gamers everywhere murdering people?
Because there is no evidence, no one has been able to prove that only a game (when its been linked to a killing) was the one and only reason.

This. There is most definetly a link between violent people and violent games. But only in the same way there is a link between "people who work at desks" and "people who have a missing eye". There's a definite link there because there are undoubtedly one-eyed people who work at desks... therefore, desks can cause the loss of one eye!

Johnson McGee:
"[It] notes in particular the harrowing scenes in which a London Underground train is bombed by terrorists, bearing a remarkable resemblance to the tragic events of 7 July 2005"

A form of media taking inspiration from current or past events? Oh the horror, I'm going to lock myself i my house and watch Law and Order since it always says it's entirely fictional!

I was going to say something along these lines, but you did it far better.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Keith Vaz.

MP for Leicester East.

Generally held in as much high regard here as Michael Atkinson is in Australia. For very similar reasons.

Generally makes fatwas on books, accepts bribes, pushes paperwork through illegally, lies to Parliament, makes up facts on games, has been suspended from the House of Commons, has lied to the House of Commons and is a pretty notorious conman.

You'll note that I don't say "allegedly", because that's all been proven.

He's a vile, repugnant excuse for a politician that is singularly responsible for negative stereotypes of Asian men being reinforced.

And Tom Watson? He's the guy that said News International was the equivalent of the Mafia.

He's got cojones.

I'm quoting this because it deserves to be as widespread as possible, for all who look in to this issue (or at least this thread) to see.

So is this guy the Jack Thompson of UK?

oZode:
So is this guy the Jack Thompson of UK?

More like the Mayor Quimby of the UK.

Well, as crazy as the government is in Canada, I'm glad that they're dealing with the REAL hard-hitting issues. Like beavers vs. polar bears. Incidently, I played MW3, and afterwards went on a massive shooting rampage, setting off chemical attacks in 3 major metropolitian areas, while kidnapping the Russian president and seeking revenge on a shadowy terrorist. True story.

British politicians don't seem to be any better, but seem to be a lot more fun (to watch, while not actually being under their jurisdiction).

NinjaDeathSlap:

and this man has managed to keep his job... how?

Some might say because he's the only Asian MP, and the race card works pretty heavily. Here he runs because the only alternative is the BNP, who no-one wants in, or the Tories, who have already sold half of Leicester off.

Add in 45% immigrants, and he still can't lose, even if they know he's a fraud.

But then, there's his counterpart of Dorrell, who rarely even goes to Parliament, just gets paid to be there - whether he's there or not.

Andy Chalk:

Based on my understanding of Parliamentary procedure, neither the original motion nor the amendment actually mean a whole lot. The former is Vaz doing his best to stay in the spotlight; the latter is Tom Watson messing with him. And you thought the inner workings of government were dull.

Most people don't watch broadcasts of parliament because they think it's boring, and in fairness this is probably true for the most part, but sometimes it seems all they are doing is trolling each other across the chamber. Quite funny really.

oZode:
So is this guy the Jack Thompson of UK?

No, more like Leland Yee or Michael Atkinson. A little obsessive but not completely batshit nuts.

http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-12/2427

^^^ Link to the EDM.

Interesting to note that as well as Keith Vaz proposing it, 8 other MPs supported it. Tossers.

The article is right that this EDM is basically Vaz making free publicity for himself: it will never get to the House. The most supported motion (with 274) was 'this House recognises the social, economic and cultural importance of well-run community pubs', closely followed by the 'Fish Fight Campaign' with 248.

Like all attention seekers, if we ignore him (and vote for someone else) he will go away.

I actually e-mailed Mr. Vaz just yesterday about this topic, pointing out that his assertion was wrong (the train was not bombed, it derailed after the terrorist driver was shot by the SAS) and asking for him to provide data to back up his point over the 'increased link' that he mentions.

Judging by Root's summary of his character and actions though, I get the feeling a reply will not be forthcoming, or at least not one that's worth talking about.

Amnestic:

Judging by Root's summary of his character and actions though, I get the feeling a reply will not be forthcoming, or at least not one that's worth talking about.

Given Vaz is the guy in charge of the Murdoch/N.I. questioning...

Unlikely.

Just as a pointer on his particular stance:

"I don't have to see a film to know it's offensive."

and

"You can always go to Holland to have a fair debate."

The_root_of_all_evil:

Unlikely.

Wonderful. Now I feel like I wasted half an hour that I could've spent doing anything else. Sigh.

And then after the kids were finished MW3 they went and bombed a subway. Then after that they watched Power Rangers and had a fight with a giant robot, then read the bible and went and nailed a naked dude to a cross till he died.

I struggle not to giggle every time I hear a serious politico bring up videogames, it's like a duck discussing cave paintings.

rees263:
...trolling each other across the chamber. Quite funny really.

They really are! It'd be hilarious if you didn't think they ought to be accomplishing something...

The_root_of_all_evil:

NinjaDeathSlap:

and this man has managed to keep his job... how?

Some might say because he's the only Asian MP, and the race card works pretty heavily. Here he runs because the only alternative is the BNP, who no-one wants in, or the Tories, who have already sold half of Leicester off.

Add in 45% immigrants, and he still can't lose, even if they know he's a fraud.

But then, there's his counterpart of Dorrell, who rarely even goes to Parliament, just gets paid to be there - whether he's there or not.

*sarcastic tone 'Yay Democracy!' is all I can really say to that. I hate the BNP as much as the next sane person but I've got to say I'd rather be represented by a racist than a crook.

Tom Watson, fuck yeah.

Seriously, this man is about the only politician in this country I have any respect left for; he's been the most forceful questioner of NI and the Daily Fail throughout the NotW scandal, he understands the potential of the internet, he was the only one to stand up in Parliament and elucidate how ludicrous and corrupt the Digital Economy Act was(to an almost empty hall, the rest of the lazy shits having left for the members' bar to wait out the entire debate, before filing in to mindlessly cast their votes according to the instructions of their party leaderships), and he's one of the few advocates for evidence-based policy. If there was any justice at all, he would be Labour Party leader right now, instead of the slightly less objectionable of the Miliboring twins.

i for one agree with this man. i am an adult who is unable to control his own actions. video games give me way to much stimulation and i regularly find myself acting out things in real life after having done it in a video game. just this week i have slain 3 dragons and i cant stop breaking into homes only to take gold coins and bread. i am sure that i am not the only person who has done this purely because i play video games. i think the only way to keep society safe from people like me is to ban any sort of violence or criminal activity in video games.

NinjaDeathSlap:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Keith Vaz.

MP for Leicester East.

Generally held in as much high regard here as Michael Atkinson is in Australia. For very similar reasons.

Generally makes fatwas on books, accepts bribes, pushes paperwork through illegally, lies to Parliament, makes up facts on games, has been suspended from the House of Commons, has lied to the House of Commons and is a pretty notorious conman.

You'll note that I don't say "allegedly", because that's all been proven.

He's a vile, repugnant excuse for a politician that is singularly responsible for negative stereotypes of Asian men being reinforced.

And Tom Watson? He's the guy that said News International was the equivalent of the Mafia.

He's got cojones.

and this man has managed to keep his job... how?

His nickname is Vazeline, because he's such a slippery bastard

NinjaDeathSlap:

The_root_of_all_evil:

NinjaDeathSlap:

and this man has managed to keep his job... how?

Some might say because he's the only Asian MP, and the race card works pretty heavily. Here he runs because the only alternative is the BNP, who no-one wants in, or the Tories, who have already sold half of Leicester off.

Add in 45% immigrants, and he still can't lose, even if they know he's a fraud.

But then, there's his counterpart of Dorrell, who rarely even goes to Parliament, just gets paid to be there - whether he's there or not.

*sarcastic tone 'Yay Democracy!' is all I can really say to that. I hate the BNP as much as the next sane person but I've got to say I'd rather be represented by a racist than a crook.

There are several asian MPs, off the top of my head I can think of Pritti Patel for the Tories and Labour's Sadique Khan.

Personally I'm not a fan of Mr Vaz but if it came to a choice between him and the racist idiots of the BNP I'd opt for Vaz every time. The BNP actually came a poor 4th in Leicester East at the last election anyway.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Amnestic:

Judging by Root's summary of his character and actions though, I get the feeling a reply will not be forthcoming, or at least not one that's worth talking about.

Given Vaz is the guy in charge of the Murdoch/N.I. questioning...

Unlikely.

Just as a pointer on his particular stance:

"I don't have to see a film to know it's offensive."

and

"You can always go to Holland to have a fair debate."

ah, Fitna, most half-assed hatemongering my country has ever produced.
I suppose we all have our own bad politicians, eh?

OT: I think he reacted just like we expected him to, haters gonna hate, as long as gaming remains an easy target there is'nt much you can change about it.

reonhato:
i for one agree with this man. i am an adult who is unable to control his own actions. video games give me way to much stimulation and i regularly find myself acting out things in real life after having done it in a video game. just this week i have slain 3 dragons and i cant stop breaking into homes only to take gold coins and bread. i am sure that i am not the only person who has done this purely because i play video games. i think the only way to keep society safe from people like me is to ban any sort of violence or criminal activity in video games.

It's not the video games that cause you to behave this way, but they enable it. They give you ideas, like the constant theft of grain-based foodstuffs, that normally wouldn't occur to you. Once they do, however, your inbuilt sociopathy comes to the fore and you can't help yourself. Video games don't turn people into criminals; criminals play video games for inspiration.

Video games don't tell you to go out into the world and steal bread. They just show you how easy it is. Who could resist the lure of fresh-baked bread after Skyrim has shown us all just how simple it is to get it? Violent games are exactly the same. Why, before GTA IV I had no idea just how easy it was to get away with murdering people on the streets! It wouldn't have occured to me to simply drive around a corner and wait a few minutes for the police to call off the entire investigation. Thank you, video games, for teaching me important lessons!

Rotating Bread:
Personally I'm not a fan of Mr Vaz but if it came to a choice between him and the racist idiots of the BNP I'd opt for Vaz every time.

It says a lot about the sad state of the world that we're even presented with the choice.

I actually think the BNP have a few good points. They just get lost under the much, much more numerous bad points, and the members of the party who joined up to "get rid of the darkies" or somesuch have indelibly stained public consciousness with the idea that they're the new nazi party. That said, I don't see how a weasel like Vaz is any better. So he's not racist, but he's still a pillock in a myriad of other ways. I wouldn't want either of them to be granted any sort of authority over fellow human beings.

Rotating Bread:

There are several asian MPs, off the top of my head I can think of Pritti Patel for the Tories and Labour's Sadique Khan.

Possibly more telling that I don't know them and I'm in Charnwood.

Personally I'm not a fan of Mr Vaz but if it came to a choice between him and the racist idiots of the BNP I'd opt for Vaz every time. The BNP actually came a poor 4th in Leicester East at the last election anyway.

They came 3rd in Charnwood. We've not had a Labour candidate in years. And it was quite an impressive 3rd.

Like our friend says, you've got between a racist and a crook. We've got between a racist and a autocrat. And with Clegg destroying Liberal values, it's back to a two and a half horse race.

Sizzle Montyjing:
'Keeping you warm at night? Tom Fucking Watson.'

'Who will you turn to when hyperintelligent shark people invade your home? Tom Fucking Watson.'

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