Sherlock Holmes Investigating Star Trek 2

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Sherlock Holmes Investigating Star Trek 2

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No, not Robert Downey Jr. I'm talking about Benedict Cumberbatch: The Sherlock Holmes who speaks with a real English accent.

Star Trek 2 has been accumulating a pretty impressive cast lately. After it was revealed that Khan may be appearing in the film, rumors have been flying about who might wind up playing the character. Last month's announcement that Peter Weller (AKA Robocop and Buckaroo Banzai) was joining the film kicked speculation up another notch, and a lot more fuel has just been added to that fire now that Benedict Cumberbatch has signed up to boldly go where no man has gone before.

If you haven't heard of Benedict Cumberbatch before now, then you need to stop whatever you're doing and go watch Sherlock Season One. Cumberbatch's portrayal of the world's greatest detctive is one of the best things to appear on television (as is Martin Freeman's Dr. Watson). Of course, there's no word about what role Cumberbatch will be portraying, but I'm personally hoping he'll be terrorizing the crew of the Enterprise; the man plays sinister far too well.

This isn't the only big nerd movie that Cumberbatch has a major role in. He'll be portraying Smaug the Dragon (via motion capture) and voicing the Necromancer in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and The Hobbit: There and Back Again.

Star Trek 2 is due to hit theaters on May 17th, 2013.

Source: Deadline

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Sherlock is awesome. Never seen him in anything else, but I like his portrayal there. Would like to know who he's playing, though.

vansau:

No, not Robert Downey Jr. I'm talking about Benedict Cumberbatch: The Sherlock Homes who speaks with a real English accent.

sorry to nit pick... but you typed "Homes" instead of "Holmes"

Also I've seen the show, although there is only 3 episodes on Netflix Canada, his deductions are mind blowing almost to the point of absurdity. Like it non the less.

Waaghpowa:

vansau:

No, not Robert Downey Jr. I'm talking about Benedict Cumberbatch: The Sherlock Homes who speaks with a real English accent.

sorry to nit pick... but you typed "Homes" instead of "Holmes"

Also I've seen the show, although there is only 3 episodes on Netflix Canada, his deductions are mind blowing almost to the point of absurdity. Like it non the less.

Corrected! Sorry about that /shame

Waaghpowa:

Also I've seen the show, although there is only 3 episodes on Netflix Canada, his deductions are mind blowing almost to the point of absurdity. Like it non the less.

Sherlock only has 3 episodes per season. BBC is airing season 2 this now with 2 more episodes tongo

I looked at the synopsis and immediately thought: "Why would they want you?" "Because, unlike some other Sherlock Holmeses, I can speak with an English accent."

Just look at that face. He is SUCH a Romulan.

Wait a minute there was not Necromancer in The Hobbit!
*Does a quick Google search*
Oh Sauron. It's been awhile since i've read the book but I only seem to remember the inhabitant of Dol Guldur being referred to as "the enemy" (And that Thorin was rather keen to take him on as well but Gandalf talked him out of it). And how the hell would he be in this movie anyway? Or Galadriel for that matter?

It'll be interesting seeing how he pull off the motion capture for a Dragon. It would have been a nice touch having voice both Smaug AND Sauron though.

So both Holmes and Watson are playing against each other in the same film... Which is the hobbit. There's all levels of nerdgasm going on there.

DVS BSTrD:

It'll be interesting seeing how he pull off the motion capture for a Dragon. It would have been a nice touch having voice both Smaug AND Sauron though.

Newsroom got that the wrong way round; he voices Smaug and mo-caps the Necromancer/Sauron.

Wait.. they turned the miniseries into an actual series? DAMMIT! I know I am not in the UK but why was I not informed?!?

I loved the first 3 episodes. Only problem I had was using it as an opportunity that was trying to subversively push the concept that Holmes was gay.

As for Trek. Ok, whatever hurries this film and the next one up so we can trash this garbage of kirk/spock. Doesnt matter who is playing them, Kirk/Spock trek blows.

Only seen one of the Holmes Episodes but as they are on Netflix I will be watching them ASAP.

From the trailers I think he is in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. Which I am looking forward to Bobs review of. He is a talented actor but he already looks a bit too much like Nero to be anything but Romulan at this stage, but Could see him playing Khan or a particularly cunning Klingon

I saw this guy play Frankenstein last year, it was one of the best performances I've ever seen (if not the best). And... he would be better than Ricardo Montalban. And I LOVE Ricardo Montalban's Khan.

Oh my God, Sherlock Holmes is Smaug

SMAUG IS SHERLOCK HOLMES...

...AND SAURON!
I'll never commit another crime as long as I live...

However, it does solve the mystery of how Holmes always seems to know the answer.

Waaghpowa:

vansau:

No, not Robert Downey Jr. I'm talking about Benedict Cumberbatch: The Sherlock Homes who speaks with a real English accent.

sorry to nit pick... but you typed "Homes" instead of "Holmes"

And thus the idea for a black Sherlock Holmes was born :P

OT: Who? Never seen/heard of that dude, the real Holmes for me is Jeremy Brett. There's another actor that I like for Holmes I think, can't find his name now, but really, that guy is total news to me.

Vrach:

OT: Who? Never seen/heard of that dude, the real Holmes for me is Jeremy Brett. There's another actor that I like for Holmes I think, can't find his name now, but really, that guy is total news to me.

I agree Jeremy Brett was the best Victorian Holmes there ever has been on film or TV. The BBC did a 3 episode series which updated Holmes in 2010. I guess from your mention of Jeremy Brett, that like me, you think that idea is close to heresy. I sat down to watch the first episode fully prepared to hate it, but much to my surprise I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think they updated to the present day because of the strength of the Brett version, any new adaptation would have to compete with it and I don't think they wanted too. I would recommend trying to get hold of copy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_%28TV_series%29

albino boo:

Vrach:

OT: Who? Never seen/heard of that dude, the real Holmes for me is Jeremy Brett. There's another actor that I like for Holmes I think, can't find his name now, but really, that guy is total news to me.

I agree Jeremy Brett was the best Victorian Holmes there ever has been on film or TV. The BBC did a 3 episode series which updated Holmes in 2010. I guess from your mention of Jeremy Brett, that like me, you think that idea is close to heresy. I sat down to watch the first episode fully prepared to hate it, but much to my surprise I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think they updated to the present day because of the strength of the Brett version, any new adaptation would have to compete with it and I don't think they wanted too. I would recommend trying to get hold of copy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_%28TV_series%29

Aight, I'll give it a look, part of why I replied is I kinda wanted to see if someone will praise the show... but I don't really have high hopes tbf :P

and this movie got even more interesting. Cumberbatch is probably one of the best Holmes ever.

Jeremey Brett is still the Best Holmes. Cumberbatch is pretty good though. Too bad the rest of the show is kind of inane.

vansau:

No, not Robert Downey Jr. I'm talking about Benedict Cumberbatch: The Sherlock Holmes who speaks with a real English accent.

I hope that is a Robin Hood Men in Tights reference...! :P

Personally I like this! He is an awesome actor, and did a great job in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy... Which was a damn good movie... Shows he can do serious as well as quirky, so it will be interesting to see which he takes in Star Trek! Not bad for someone who started out in serious tv dramas... and period dramas like Atonement!

Also... How much betting he will be the next Doctor in Dr. Who too?

Its nice to see Cumberbatch getting.the recognition he deserves now. Sherlock, The Hobbit, Star Trek, good to see his talents are noticed now.

Must be the voice, that wonderfully contagious voice.

viranimus:
Wait.. they turned the miniseries into an actual series? DAMMIT! I know I am not in the UK but why was I not informed?!?

I loved the first 3 episodes. Only problem I had was using it as an opportunity that was trying to subversively push the concept that Holmes was gay.

As for Trek. Ok, whatever hurries this film and the next one up so we can trash this garbage of kirk/spock. Doesnt matter who is playing them, Kirk/Spock trek blows.

No, they started with series 2 right away, with A Scandal in Belgravia. There are only three episodes per series.

The next one in S2, The Hound of the Baskervilles, will air on BBC1 on January 8th.

I agree with many others here - it is an extremely good portrayal of both characters by both Cumberbatch and by Freeman.

viranimus:
I loved the first 3 episodes. Only problem I had was using it as an opportunity that was trying to subversively push the concept that Holmes was gay.

Episode 1 of Season 2 very much contradicts that.

Good. Cumberbatch is in my Top 10 of actor currently working and he really needs to be more famous than he is. Hopefully his influence will mean the sequel will suck slightly less than the first Star Trek.

Also... How much betting he will be the next Doctor in Dr. Who too?

I will show up on Stephen Moffat's doorstep if I have to and make this happen personally.

NinjaDeathSlap:

Also... How much betting he will be the next Doctor in Dr. Who too?

I will show up on Stephen Moffat's doorstep if I have to and make this happen personally.

Will you take him on the table right then and make him beg, twice?

albino boo:

NinjaDeathSlap:

Also... How much betting he will be the next Doctor in Dr. Who too?

I will show up on Stephen Moffat's doorstep if I have to and make this happen personally.

Will you take him on the table right then and make him beg, twice?

Yes, yes I would.

and that is probably one of the best moment in BBC TV history that line.

This is probably too far in the Star Trek timeline to be possible but could he not be a very young ensign Picard?

I am most likely wrong I don't think Picard is even born yet or if his parents are even old enough to BE parents at this point in the timeline but it would be cool nonetheless.

In addition to his Holmes credit, which is giving Cumberbatch a good deal of (well deserved) recognition, he's also a fantastic comedic actor. I'd highly suggest Cabin Pressure for anyone looking for more of his stuff - there are three series now, the entire cast is spectacular, and for my money it's one of the sharpest bits of comedy writing to hit the BBC in the past few years.

luvd1:
So both Holmes and Watson are playing against each other in the same film... Which is the hobbit. There's all levels of nerdgasm going on there.

Didnt even occur to me until you said. But, oh my God! D:

viranimus:
Wait.. they turned the miniseries into an actual series? DAMMIT! I know I am not in the UK but why was I not informed?!?

I loved the first 3 episodes. Only problem I had was using it as an opportunity that was trying to subversively push the concept that Holmes was gay.

As for Trek. Ok, whatever hurries this film and the next one up so we can trash this garbage of kirk/spock. Doesnt matter who is playing them, Kirk/Spock trek blows.

The miniseries was the series. That's british TV for you- often fantastic, but 6 hours per series is about all you can hope for. There's a new 3-part series on now though, and its very popular (11 million watched the last episode out of a population of 63 million)so they'll keep making more.
Oh, and I know which bit you're talking about, but the point they were making there wasn't that Holmes was gay but that he was effectively asexual. The only attraction for him is intelligence, regardless of gender.

viranimus:
Wait.. they turned the miniseries into an actual series? DAMMIT! I know I am not in the UK but why was I not informed?!?

I loved the first 3 episodes. Only problem I had was using it as an opportunity that was trying to subversively push the concept that Holmes was gay.

As for Trek. Ok, whatever hurries this film and the next one up so we can trash this garbage of kirk/spock. Doesnt matter who is playing them, Kirk/Spock trek blows.

Wtach the first episode of series two, he most defiantly is not gay.

As a Star Trek fan who has seen Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan far too many times,...

This new Khan will not live up to expectations. He cannot beat Ricardo Montalbán. I can live with the new Kirk, and I can live with the new Spock. Khan however, was defined entirely by Ricardo Montalbán.

This new guy may as well be portraying Harry Mudd impersonating Khan.

As for everyone quoting me.. I would LOVE to watch the second series. The first one was great. However living in the US I seemingly do not have a legitimate distribution method in order to view it. I only watched the first one with my ex fiancee that I had no idea how she obtained it. (Currently my only means to view anything is via online distribution and OTA DTV signals so I have no clue if its available on BBC america because I do not have cable)

The question I have about the whole homosexual connotation is that was the connection in the first series just an illusion, or was it actually there and there was enough negative backlash from it that was modified in the second series? I know the UK has traditionally been more accepting of homosexuality on television than in the US, but I also know that there have been many instances when there has been negative backlash from it that forced the production to be modified because of it. (See Torchwood and several others)

Anyway... this gent would make an excellent addition to a star trek cast, I just find the lamentable part being that it is for a ToS time-line that simply wasnt that good to begin with and really the reboot hasnt changed that.

viranimus:
As for everyone quoting me.. I would LOVE to watch the second series. The first one was great. However living in the US I seemingly do not have a legitimate distribution method in order to view it. I only watched the first one with my ex fiancee that I had no idea how she obtained it. (Currently my only means to view anything is via online distribution and OTA DTV signals so I have no clue if its available on BBC america because I do not have cable)

The question I have about the whole homosexual connotation is that was the connection in the first series just an illusion, or was it actually there and there was enough negative backlash from it that was modified in the second series? I know the UK has traditionally been more accepting of homosexuality on television than in the US, but I also know that there have been many instances when there has been negative backlash from it that forced the production to be modified because of it. (See Torchwood and several others)

Anyway... this gent would make an excellent addition to a star trek cast, I just find the lamentable part being that it is for a ToS time-line that simply wasnt that good to begin with and really the reboot hasnt changed that.

There was no backlash, backlashes against homosexuality in the UK are pretty rare (the torchwood backlash was against the explicit sex scenes, not the homosexuality). I think the point moffat was making was that sherlock is pretty much asexual, not that he was gay- he's interested in Irene Adler purely because of her intelligence.

jprf:

There was no backlash, backlashes against homosexuality in the UK are pretty rare (the torchwood backlash was against the explicit sex scenes, not the homosexuality). I think the point moffat was making was that sherlock is pretty much asexual, not that he was gay- he's interested in Irene Adler purely because of her intelligence.

Yes, if anything it's constantly alluded to that Holmes is a big ol' virgin, than being a gay. I mean I think that wise is cracked at least three times in the new episode.

NinjaDeathSlap:

viranimus:
I loved the first 3 episodes. Only problem I had was using it as an opportunity that was trying to subversively push the concept that Holmes was gay.

Episode 1 of Season 2 very much contradicts that.

Good. Cumberbatch is in my Top 10 of actor currently working and he really needs to be more famous than he is. Hopefully his influence will mean the sequel will suck slightly less than the first Star Trek.

I think its more that gay jokes are still popular in britain?

Because for the most part the gay comedy was to make Watson uncomfortable. Holmes himself was mostly asexual in the first series and wasn't moved by the jokes people made.

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