Baffling Comparison Places Kindergarten Cop In Silent Hill

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AlohaJo:

esperandote:
Silent Hill continues to surprise us after 23 years.

It's only been 13 years! 13! There's no way I missed a decade of my life somewhere. Honestly, that comment scared me more than the game itself...

Oops, you're right xD

Thats crazy and slightly surreal! An innocent family friendy story staring Schwarzneggar is used as a source to create one of the most disturbing levels of Silent Hill!

Wait, I got it!

Silent Hill isn't just a game! It's a desperate message by Konami trying to spread the evils of how Silent Hill exists in our world and for us to dispell its evil before it completes itself and assimilates all!

Rally the troops! We must burn down all of Oregon to be safe!

SirCannonFodder:

Pallindromemordnillap:
Some of those are a bit...tenuous. Oooh, they've both got a school bus just like most other schools in America! Ooh they've both got medicine cabinets just like frikking everywhere...

Does every school bus also have the number 7 in the exact same spot, and has the "Ford" branding in the exact same spot of the grill?

very likely. the ford brand on the bus is a standard for this bus type and if government wanted to supplement schools with buses they would go and buy like 100 identical buses and give them to various schools. 7 is not that big of a number to have for buses you know.

mdqp:
Is it just me, or the locations are actually really, REALLY different, and only a few small details seem to be similar? I mean, is it possible that these posters and small details were relatively common in USA (I am from Italy, so I can't judge them from my personal experience)?

Possibly, but Kindergarten Cop was made in 1990, and Silent Hill was released a good 7-8 years later. Surely posters in America would have been different by the time Silent Hill began production.

I think Konami did take these images from KC. The Silent Hill series has always taken inspiration from American pop culture.

Did you know Eddie from SH2 was originally modalled after Eddie Murphy? Sounds strange, but at the start of development, Eddie was supposed to be a comical wisecracker just like EM.

Terramax:

mdqp:
Is it just me, or the locations are actually really, REALLY different, and only a few small details seem to be similar? I mean, is it possible that these posters and small details were relatively common in USA (I am from Italy, so I can't judge them from my personal experience)?

Possibly, but Kindergarten Cop was made in 1990, and Silent Hill was released a good 7-8 years later. Surely posters in America would have been different by the time Silent Hill began production.

I think Konami did take these images from KC. The Silent Hill series has always taken inspiration from American pop culture.

Did you know Eddie from SH2 was originally modalled after Eddie Murphy? Sounds strange, but at the start of development, Eddie was supposed to be a comical wisecracker just like EM.

So it's likely they took it as an inspiration (or maybe some of these posters were present in other movies, too?).

Anyway, Eddie Murphy in Silent Hill 2? Now THAT blew my mind away!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjqthfe4LYo

I'm not sure this is necessarily an homage that the development team intended. I mean, we're mostly talking about some posters, the front door of a building and a bus here. I think it's entirely possible that one or more of the artists simply used some things from the movie as visual reference for their work. Especially considering it was a Japanese team that made the game. I'd imagine they looked to all kinds of movies and photographs to help them get the look of the town and buildings down.

I'm going to take a stab at this and say the Japanese developers based unable to visit American schools did the next best thing and used stills from Movies.

Still... spooky.

Considering I called the short monsters 'tumor babies'

this comparison is likely to spawn some kind of fanfic where the terminator fights pyramid head.
hang on... that'd be pretty cool now that I think about it. I'm going to go write that now.

At first I thought it was pure silliness, but some of those posters and perspectives do seem perfectly yanked from the movie. I love it when people notice these things.

Now you need to do a comparison of the movie Demolition Man to real life. There are so many little facets to demolition man that line up with what occurs in the future.

For instance, when the big bad selects a horrible criminal to release from cryoprison during the climactic sequence, he selects none other than Scott Peterson. Coincidence... or PROPHECY?

All I can say is:
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I've must have seen that movie at least 10 times, and played the game about just as many times, and yet I've never made the connection. How many more of these things are out there. This shall by my new quest. Join me!

my mind has just be blown

Strazdas:

SirCannonFodder:

Pallindromemordnillap:
Some of those are a bit...tenuous. Oooh, they've both got a school bus just like most other schools in America! Ooh they've both got medicine cabinets just like frikking everywhere...

Does every school bus also have the number 7 in the exact same spot, and has the "Ford" branding in the exact same spot of the grill?

very likely. the ford brand on the bus is a standard for this bus type and if government wanted to supplement schools with buses they would go and buy like 100 identical buses and give them to various schools. 7 is not that big of a number to have for buses you know.

In my experience, most School Buses have a 2 or 3 digit number, not a single digit one. And there are tons of different models of School Bus, just do a quick google search.

Most likely explanation: Arnold is very popular in Japan, so when the dev team needed source material, they turned to a popular movie set in a similar location.

What is this I don't even...
That is one weird comparison.

inb4 "IT'S NAWT A TOOMAH"

In all seriousness...we need to go deeper.

Silent Hill is in Virginia. It's mentioned several times. In both the games and the 2006 movie. Case closed

Triviumaddicted:
Silent Hill is in Virginia. It's mentioned several times. In both the games and the 2006 movie. Case closed

No, it's in Maine.

Canon aside, I can totally believe Astoria is the basis for Silent Hill. Just look at the geography.

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Blue Musician:
I wonder why it took nearly 14 years to see this reference. BTW what is Kindergarten Cop about? Never heard about it.

Kindergarten Cop was the high point of the twentieth century. It was about a cop going undercover at a school, (teaching kindergarten) in order to...Im not really sure. He was after a bad guy, and I think it turned out his kid was in the class, but Im not really sure how they knew that, or why it was important. Still, amazing.

I hate horror games, but this makes me want to play it.

Blue Musician:
I wonder why it took nearly 14 years to see this reference. BTW what is Kindergarten Cop about? Never heard about it.

Well wirdly enough Kindergarten Cop is about a Cop who has to work in a Kindergarten.

Hilarity ensues.

PS: how have you not heard of this movie? It's one of Arnold Schwarzenegger's most underrated roles as he plays it completely straight (none of the theatrics he pulls in Jingle All the Way or Batman & Robin) in a movie that is overall played very straight but still hilarious circumstance of a hardened cop trying to go undercover as a teacher of tiny puny children. He discovers that he can't use the intimidation he relied on as is job hunting adult criminals, in a way he discovers a dormant paternal instinct in himself.

It's a really great movie.

Hoagster51:
I hate horror games, but this makes me want to play it.

It's one of the better ones around, made better for it's basic graphics it's use of sound is superb. Still yet to be bested (hmm, maybe Amnesia, but that may be TOO scary). Silent Hill is not gross gory, the graphics are too basic, but like any good horror movie it leaves most to the imagination.

I honestly can't recommend the sequels and wouldn't even want a Silent Hill remake, the PS1 game is classic. If you play just one Survival Horror game, try Silent Hill. You won't really need to see any other.

I will now go on Netflix to search for Kindergarten Cop....

lol yeah a few, not all tho, of those are actually eerily similar
but the bus and medicine cabinet are just typical things you'd expect to see
still, the Japanese dev team might've only had one VHS or something to reference for an American town :P

That's veeeeeeery interesting. Not every day you see this kind of thing.

moosek:
Dude, The Goonies took place in Astoria. The movie you shot to first was Kindergarten Cop?

you don't see a hospital or a school in the Goonies.....

wait you're a genius.... a Goonies game!

Taake my money now!

Wow. That's some pretty eagle-eyed stuff right there. I should probably post this in the scary topic, but if you've never seen Jacob's Ladder then here's some trauma for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXXbIOc9h4g

Hmmm, well I'll take door #3 before going down the rabbit hole with a point many of you might not have considered:

DOOR #3: (oddly it opens, you didn't need a key, the door wasn't locked or rusted shut)

Movies are generally decorated from prop warehouses and studios and production companies maintain a lot of generic locations they can shoot in, renting out apartments, houses, and other assorted things. Even in studios the guys building the scenes oftentimes follow a rather generic formula.

If I had to make a guess your looking at what amounts to a pretty generic "school build" being used for "Kintergarten Cop" with a lot of timeless and generic props. It's quite possible that whoever was doing Silent Hill's locations had some movie experience and used the same cookie cutter in setting up the layout.

Every once in a while you run into cases where if you look you can recognize the same locations and props in various TV shows done by the same people over the years. After all they aren't going to say totally tear down the "Police Captain's Office" and rebuild it from scratch for every single cop show out there. It might get decorated a bit differantly but well... you can see where this is going.

I'm wondering if Konami will ever answer this one, or if they will play it up for fun given the release of the HD Silent Hill Collection and "Downpour" before too long.

Of course it's also possible that they DID imitate that movie when they were making the game and are deciding to give this reveal indirectly though the online fan base (ie "discovered" by fans) as a way of getting attention before the game's release.

DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE (There was no hole here, now there is one)

The best place to hide something is in plain sight, one recurring element of conspiricy theories is the goverment, Illuminati, consortium of multinational interests, or whatever else using fiction to hide the truth. Basically if they make fiction about something very close to reality then people will dismiss it as being made up, and anyone making claims
about it as being an insane fanboy, or someone unable to differentiate between fantasy
and reality.

In this case if there was a town disappearing people, and it was hard to contain as it leaked out into other places, one of the best ways to hide it would be to show locations from it in movies, and make video games about it. Someone describes that school they could say "hey your describing the set from that movie Arnie did to prove he could act" a movie which nearly everyone has seen and thus could have slipped into the subconscious. Likewise a video game about a killer town where reality is warped is a great way to cover up that one exists because anyone who knows about it OBVIOUSLY played the video games and can thus be ignored as a nut.

This arguement has been made in both a general, and specific, sense about everything from crime, to espianage, to supernatural occurances and horror.

One of the creepier bits is the idea that the current trend towards "found footage" movies that look realistic due to the shoestring budget is largely because of the proliferation of personal recording devices. Someone finding footage of people being haunted, killed in the woods, or whatever could easily be dismissed (perhaps by the finder) as a little heard of movie in the genere, or someone's personal attempt to be a horror film maker.

For example, if I showed you footage of a classic haunting that happened to be real, after the release of things like "Paranormal Activity" would you believe it was genuine even if it was? Probably not. Humans are by their nature skeptical especially when it comes to whole heartedly embracing something that could make them a minority.

According to this theory, the "paranormal investigation" shows are an attempt to hide rising supernatural occurances behind glam. Something happens... they just want to be on TV.

So mebbe, just mebbe, this is all real, and what we're seeing is evidence that Silent Hill, or something similar to it, exists.

Why cover it up? Well, would any goverment want to admit that a lot of stuff like this is out there if it couldn't deal with it? Just imagine what it means for society and the law if the goverment ever acknowleged people could be killed by supernatural forces rather arbitrarly even if it was very rare. There might not be a massive public panic (actually I doubt it, humans are orderly and social) but just imagine what it would mean for crimes like murder if all of a sudden "a ghost did it" could be used as cover. :)

On a final creepy note, ghosts do exist legally. Realtors have to reveal to potential buyers when a house has a history either of bad things happening there OR of reported hauntings and odd occurances. In real life a group of people who are totally oblivious moving into a haunted house is unlikely nowadays, because enough real people found themselves in odd positions and could prove it to get laws passed. I'm actually serious here, kind of surprised me when I was in school... though I imagine it could have since been overturned. I think the example was laws from New York.

Okay well now it's time to climb out of the Rabbit Hole, but it was fun down there wasn't it? There is no reason to get nervous about going outside in the fog for a walk and then noticing the next street corner has a signpost marking it as being named after a famous horror author.... which is odd, because you would have noticed this living in town for years. After all... the truely sane and rational know the mists take you to Ravenloft. :)

Oh great, now everytime I shoot those damn demon kids I'll start hearing "Boys have penises, girls have vaginas".

That twisty poster one is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too specific to be a coincidence. Konami are fucking weird.

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