UPDATE: Petition Demands White House Investigate SOPA Supporter

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Frostbite3789:

vansau:
Dodd accused them of abusing their power and using their power to "intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests."

I'm reminded of a certain quote involving shoes and other feet. It just escapes me though, but I feel so very strongly that it applies here.

Before you critasize someone walk a mile in their shoes. Because then you a mile away when you critasize them and you have the shoes.

If anyone ever gets to argue with theists about the "intelligent design" of the world and its inhabitants, just ask them "How the hell did Chris Dodd end up in this intelligently designed world?"

Seriously.
Sometimes I just wonder if politics is like the positive side of a magnet and morons where the negative side of a magnet. There obviously is some attraction between those two. I hope Dodd gets what he deserves.

It worries me that I know so "much" about the US politics...

Damn, Escapist. You're off by about two or three days. I saw this shit on Facepunch Thursday. Signed it too.

Bribery? It's the day-to-day workings of a corrupt corporate-government symbiosis, and he is, unfortunately, above the law. Why single him out when this happens every damn day in Washington?

number 25,982, congratulations people, we broke the 25,000 mark.

Now, lets get 4chan and reddit on the case, we should be able to hit 500k signatures by the morning.

One guy against the internet ? Hope his folks like him extra crispy.

I have said it before and I will say it again. Unless you are Pixar's Cars, the majority of money you make come from the first few weeks of viewings. The amount of money you are gonna lose after that is next to irrelevant. Think about it. The Dark Knight got pirated I don't know how many times and it still managed to make over 1 billion.

If you want people to stop pirating films, drop the prices in cinemas and stop giving green light to every piece of crap film that knocks your door! But nope, instead, we have to pay from 9 to 13 euros to sit through stuff like this:

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When you start putting quantity above quality, people will filter your movies and decide which one is worth their time. Don't pretend that all you want to do is look after your job. After comments like these (which kind of remind me threats for protection money in ghettos), we know that all you wanna do is keep your chair warm. You are the chief of movie publishing, in a sense. You have absolutely nothing to do with the creative part. So go get stuffed.

On a lighter note, the first petition sign belongs to a guy by the surname Denton. Nice to see that JC thinks this is a conspiracy.

Xiado:
Bribery? It's the day-to-day workings of a corrupt corporate-government symbiosis, and he is, unfortunately, above the law. Why single him out when this happens every damn day in Washington?

It's the only outlet of frustration available. Not the most effective though and unfortunately we cannot vote him out of a company.

Who in his right mind would speak his anger out like that? He sorta asked for it - it was like watching a baby whine. Dodd should have swallowed his anger, go back to the drawing board and repackage the whole thing.

Petition signatures reached. Success!

These corrupt monkeys need a bitch-slap-and-a-half. Who puts these people in power? Oh wait, the monkeys pay other monkeys who are halfways respected due to corruption. This system is bad.

RJ Dalton:

Sandytimeman:
I signed, power to the people baby! Die, Corporate America Die! Lets get back to when you know...it was harder to bribe politicians.

That would be when there were no politicians, right?

Zing!

OT; I think it's already gotten above the amount of signatures it needed to pass. As of late, it seems like the people are really getting back at these assholes in power.

Kargathia:
Somehow I doubt a bribery investigation is going to get anywhere anytime soon though. Not because of any global conspiracy, but because in all likelihood he didn't even need to resort to illegal measures in order to get his point - and his money - across.

Well that is the hilarious thing here, how will you prove bribery when it's been integral to whole American political system for decades.
You just use a politically correct term "donations" and you can buy off any politician you need.

"How do we sign!!"

I'm shocked and appalled that there is no YouTube clip from that episode of Futurama ("The Problem With Popplers", in case someone wants to make one ;) ).

At least the petition has well over the amount needed now.

This guy does sound like a complete tool, yes, but Im not sure that this is any more bribery than the usual race for the Presidency. I dont fully understand American politics, but I was under the impression that campaign contributions are usually given by parties that would be benefited by the candidate reaching the White House, and that seems to be what Mr McTool is saying.

"If you dont help us now, we wont support your campaign anymore."

Still, glad Obama stepped in.

-'Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake.'-

Sounds like what Graham and the EC crew said about E3.

lol

Let us investigate them too!

So lemme get this straight.. the folks who signed this petition think that somebody.. anybody.. donates to a political cause without having some sort of political cause (aka policy goal) in mind, and Dodd is thus somehow immoral and wrong for saying so?

Sober Thal:
-'Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake.'-

Sounds like what Graham and the EC crew said about E3.

lol

Let us investigate them too!

ESA=/=Federal Government. Nice false equivalency though.

Kwil:
So lemme get this straight.. the folks who signed this petition think that somebody.. anybody.. donates to a political cause without having some sort of political cause (aka policy goal) in mind, and Dodd is thus somehow immoral and wrong for saying so?

It's almost like some people are tired of their government being owned by special interest groups and lobbyists. Anyone remember that 'pizza is a vegetable' debacle recently? You can thank lobbyists for that.

Amnestic:

Sober Thal:
-'Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake.'-

Sounds like what Graham and the EC crew said about E3.

lol

Let us investigate them too!

ESA=/=Federal Government. Nice false equivalency though.

Yeah.

It's 'nice' when and if you consider how fucked up and spoiled gamers are now-a-days.

Actually, it's not nice at all.

ESA does not equal the Federal Government.... you got that right at least.

CHEERS!

"intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests."

thats laughable coming from the head of an organisation that skewed the fact in regards to numbers working in the motion picture/movie industry. according to their offical numbers "millions of jobs are at risk" if you dig deeper the millions of jobs cover all "entertainment" categories including fast food attendants and your local library technican.

the top 6 IT firms like google, ebay and yahoo employ more people than the entire US movie industry

It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and use their services. It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today. It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests.

"Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake."

I thank yew.

vansau:
Chris Dodd was a big supporter of SOPA.

Former senator Chris Dodd left office in January, 2011. A month later, he was hired on as the president of the Motion Picture Association of America; so it's not surprising to hear that the man was a big supporter of the Stop Online Piracy Act.

Wow... wonder what this amazing, petitioned-for investigation will likely turn up(!!!!)

vansau:
Last week, Dodd implied that Obama would have a much tougher time raising money in Hollywood after he publicly stated he planned to veto SOPA if it passed. "Those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake," Dodd told Fox News. "Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake."

Fair comment, to be honest! Why wouldn't/shouldn't anyone who supports SOPA make similar comments, since they likely also fall into the "Piracy is destroying the entertainment industry" camp.

What's wrong with voting/supporting the politicians/parties that are (in your opinion!) supporting the industry you work in, and protecting it, and thereby your job?

Not to defend this man, but is this really a bribery case? I thought every election was funded by private companies and lobbyists. The republicans taking money from oil companies and Democrats being funded by hollywood (apparently).

Of course, I'm an ignorant Brit so may be grasping the wrong end of a completely different stick. Feel free to quote me and call me a buffoon.

Bobic:
Not to defend this man, but is this really a bribery case? I thought every election was funded by private companies and lobbyists. The republicans taking money from oil companies and Democrats being funded by hollywood (apparently).

Of course, I'm an ignorant Brit so may be grasping the wrong end of a completely different stick. Feel free to quote me and call me a buffoon.

You're about correct. Just about every form of the federal government here runs on corruption and bribery along with threats to withhold election money should their votes fail to fall in line properly. And it's all 100% legal, that Citizens United ruling just made it more obvious.

No matter how many signatures you get on this petition, I bet you just get some sort of BS automated response from some low-level flunky about how wonderful Dodd is and how they will effectively do nothing to him. The ruling class won't prosecute themselves for something they all do.

Moosejaw:

Bobic:
Not to defend this man, but is this really a bribery case? I thought every election was funded by private companies and lobbyists. The republicans taking money from oil companies and Democrats being funded by hollywood (apparently).

Of course, I'm an ignorant Brit so may be grasping the wrong end of a completely different stick. Feel free to quote me and call me a buffoon.

You're about correct. Just about every form of the federal government here runs on corruption and bribery along with threats to withhold election money should their votes fail to fall in line properly. And it's all 100% legal, that Citizens United ruling just made it more obvious.

No matter how many signatures you get on this petition, I bet you just get some sort of BS automated response from some low-level flunky about how wonderful Dodd is and how they will effectively do nothing to him. The ruling class won't prosecute themselves for something they all do.

Doesn't that kinda make this whole petition ridiculous though. The internet community is fine with everyone doing it (or, they at least don't protest it). But someone does something irrelevant that they disagree with so they try to punish this one guy for it. The law doesn't, and shouldn't, work like that. The law applies to everyone or no one, not just the people you don't like.

oldtaku:
I also demand an investigation of those eyebrows.

this just in...

GUILTY!

Unlike all the hippies at wallstreet, the internet is getting stuff done.

Hooray, the petition passed! Now we just have to wait until- oh, what's that? He bribed everyone involved with the investigation? Cleared of all charges, you say? As powerful as ever, and with a vendetta against the Internet, you say? Well, darn. Oh well, back to work, everyone.

Update: Whoa, now everyone is going to get the professional run around from the people who are the absolute best at it. Does anyone think anything will actually come of this? Let me tell you, it won't. He will not be investigated. He will not suffer legal consequences for what he has done. He will not lose his nice shiny new job. The more guilty he appears to be, the less likely he is to actually suffer any consequences that come from this. AND, it has the eyes of some folks on the internet. So far, they have not reached the eyes and ears of any major constituency group. The number of people is something of a joke at this point. When politicians think of numbers, they think in the hundreds of thousands at the least.

I hope I'm wrong, but having watched the US government in action.... The system is gamed for this guy and no one seems to see it. This is what a lot of politicians do when they retire. They slip into an even better paying job at some corporate office somewhere. It's a reward for representing the interests of the people who helped get them elected (just so we are clear, it's not the people who got them elected, it's special interest groups).

oldtaku:
I also demand an investigation of those eyebrows.

LMFAO. Win, dude. I second this.

Well good. We need this kind of investigation. Not that anything will come of it, but it's a nice thought nevertheless.
I wouldn't think that he'd be the only one payed off to support SOPA though, I'm sure many of its supporters were bought by lobbyists.

Of course, if we were to do investigations on all of the corrupt SOPA supporters, I expect Washington would be rather empty afterwards.

TestECull:
Damn, Escapist. You're off by about two or three days. I saw this shit on Facepunch Thursday. Signed it too.

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If I haven't seen it, it's new to me.

Also no surprise, most politicians don't give two shits about such issues unless they have some financial gain at stake.
Surprised the Escapist isn't covering the mass shutdown of several file sharing sites.

Zachary Amaranth:

DVS BSTrD:
Why no link to petition?

RJ Dalton:

Or at least tell us where we can find it in case we happen to feel it's a good cause to sign in on.

Not only is it linked, mentioned earlier, but also the article says that it appeared on whitehouse.gov.

Now, can we get one for the other suspect folks? Senator Leahy over PIPA, perhaps?

Yeah, while we're at it, let's get Lamar Smith for SOPA and PCIPA impeached too. Actually, why not, let's crackdown on the whole House of Representatives to see which one's taking bribes to support those bills. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the assholes that pushed those bills were taking RIAA and MPAA money. The House could do with a good pruning of stupid old-fags who don't know what the hell they're talking about, but are given the ability to vote on things they simply don't understand. (Foreign Thieves. You shitting me?)

Wow, guy even looks like your typical strawman corrupt politician, with those eyebrows and that smug look on his face.

Though sadly I'm English (and thus better than the majority of you) so I can't sign the petition or else I would. Not sure the point of it all, I really doubt anything will come of it (though got a feeling I'll eat those words) but me'h he looks and sounds a smug dick so why not.

Wow, he seriously threatened the President like that? Who the hell does he think he is?

Speech isn't really considered to be all that important anymore, I think. And it's absurd. The truth is that the man, Dodd, said some really stupid things. However, his quote is a hodgepodge of stupid under a layer of intelligibility. To the common person, yes, this is a threat. It's a quid pro quo statement, a casting couch of sorts. If this kind of a phrase were uttered under the context of gender relations in the workplace, it'd probably warrant a Title 9 search. Unfortunately, that's not the context. In politics, speech somehow means less (even though it ought to mean so, so much more). They'll find a way to weasel out of it. I guess this might be the one upside to Fox news: it makes people feel really comfortable. It makes them feel comfortable enough to be themselves. In this case, a douchebag troll who, if he had a small cat to pet, might be considered to be a fitting Bond villain.

Off topic but still really important: please don't confuse "who" with "whom" anymore.

The Obama Administration will now respond to it, but exactly whom responds has yet to be determined.

Bobic:
Not to defend this man, but is this really a bribery case? I thought every election was funded by private companies and lobbyists. The republicans taking money from oil companies and Democrats being funded by hollywood (apparently).

Of course, I'm an ignorant Brit so may be grasping the wrong end of a completely different stick. Feel free to quote me and call me a buffoon.

They are all cases of bribery. The question is, does this case qualify as illegal bribery.

Actually, the real question is, why is bribery legal at all?

gphjr14:

TestECull:
Damn, Escapist. You're off by about two or three days. I saw this shit on Facepunch Thursday. Signed it too.

image

If I haven't seen it, it's new to me.

Also no surprise, most politicians don't give two shits about such issues unless they have some financial gain at stake.
Surprised the Escapist isn't covering the mass shutdown of several file sharing sites.

Well, why don't YOU fill us in instead of teasing us.

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