LulzSec Leader Outed As FBI Rat

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It's like watching Satan duke it out with a petty murderer. Completely one sided and delicious to watch.

The_root_of_all_evil:

maddog015:

This. Grabbing a handful of people who might be "leadership" isn't going to stop it. That's like saying "We killed Bin Laden! Terrorism is over!"

Or even before that...
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I like your attitude of "We'll rise up again!" etc. etc. /snore.

However, this was a major bust, and it also proved that the supposed bastion of internet security breachers was just another guy who would easily rat out his friends. What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?

Silvianoshei:

Andy Chalk:

Monsegur, described by FoxNews.com as an "unemployed, 28-year-old father of two," apparently flipped on the group in order to avoid being separated from his children. "It was because of his kids. He didn't want to go away to prison and leave them," a law enforcement official said. "That's how we got him."

This is the only thing I don't like. Threatening to leave his children without a father or as orphans is a pretty terrible thing to do.

Also want to point out that his name is freaking awesome.

What else do they do? They're not leaving his kids as orphans. He is. When you are a parent, you don't run around engaging in wish-fulfillment illegal activity to feel like an activist badass -- that's called thinking of yourself first.

He did something that sends a person to jail. Not "a person with kids" or "a person without kids." If he goes to jail, that's what happens. He owned the choice, and he owns the consequences... unfortunately, so do his kids.

Good for him, he chose the road that embarrasses him before the public, for the sake of his kids. Someone making bad decisions instead turned and made a smarter, more selfless one -- that's a sign that these kind of consequences are working.

So all that bollocks about teh threedums and the snivelling worm still ends up turning out a grass? Pfft, hope he doesn't plan on keeping those kneecaps.

haha, the leader ratted out everyone else? I think this ended in the best way possible.

Nice to see those wannabes getting taken down.

More room for those who actually subscribe to anonymity and it's culture to take over the world instead of those who pretend they are superheroes/supervillians.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Good luck with that.

Now the real war will begin.

This, hacking from anon users will never end. If you choose to go hard against hakers that do it for fun, some will yeild, others will just download asimetric war instructives and get better (the US army guide to asimetric warfare is specially good, legal and aviliable freely).

The_root_of_all_evil:

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A certain reply comes to mind
(sorry dude, gonna have to go to youtube they disabled it through links(boo))

The_root_of_all_evil:

Andy Chalk:

Regardless of how many more arrests are made because of Monsegur's cooperation, the FBI believes this spells the end of LulzSec. "This is devastating to the organization," another official said. "We're chopping off the head of LulzSec."

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Good luck with that.

Now the real war will begin.

Well played sir, well played.

OT: i find this terrible, the thought that O'Cearrbhail is soon going to be deported to america for jail time is fucking awful. God damn this is not right!

Carsus Tyrell:
So all that bollocks about teh threedums and the snivelling worm still ends up turning out a grass? Pfft, hope he doesn't plan on keeping those kneecaps.

What's the saying? Snitches get stitches?

Now if only the remnants of Lulzsec would cost the leader of the FBI his job. Now that would be justice.

ResonanceSD:

Carsus Tyrell:
So all that bollocks about teh threedums and the snivelling worm still ends up turning out a grass? Pfft, hope he doesn't plan on keeping those kneecaps.

What's the saying? Snitches get stitches?

I always preferred cement shoes, I'm a sucker for the classics what can I say?

Yes, good to see that Lulzsec finally got their just desserts. This actually makes me think back to a comment I read back when their rampage was just starting something like "when the feds catch these guys they're not going to arrest them they're going to hire them" I guess whoever that was they were right. That was a pretty long time ago so I don't remember who posted it.

Pluvia:
***Snip***

I'd be much more scared of a faceless organisation that tries to hide from the consequences of their actions, and deliberately attack people who disagree with them, despite those people doing nothing illegal except having a different point of view, and who try to control with fear, than the government.

The government can spy on me if it wants, but all it'll find is I go to work, I play computer games, I drink at the weekend and I do everyday normal day-to-day things. I'm not scared of the government because I'm not stupid enough to believe the government would be interested in me, but I do get worried when a fringe group of anonymous tries to get my credit card information and attacks the Escapist because a majority of people there disagree with them.

Then I'd have to say you're naive. Governments don't just have opposing viewpoints, their viewpoints are getting to be toxic. The shit getting leaked (much of it from Anonymous at that) from government or government funded organizations is disgusting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBiJB8YuDBQ&hd=1

Check that out. It's a Fox News report. That's kind of ironic really, but what the Documentary says is true. Keep in mind that information currently leaked, and what is discussed in the documentary is just the tip of the iceberg...

It's not even slightly surprising as a group who goes about saying "do what we want you to do, or we'll attack" makes itself an anti-terrorist target from the FBI.

I was kinda expecting Anon to take them down or give the information to the FBI.
it,s nice to see the vandals of the net got caught then again they were stupid enough not to stay anonymous (as in nameless not the internet group).

Some loathsome FBI agents turning the screws on some loathsome hackers, who exposed some frankly idiotic security systems ran by bloated MNC tosspots.

The world goes on.

Good. They played with fire and they got burnt the fuck up.

Fappy:
Good fucking riddance I say. I really love this, I'll be honest here. Say what you will about his reasons for doing it but the simple fact of the matter is that LulzSec's entire existence was based on a matter of principle, "people should secure their shit." And now at the end of the day we see their leader sacrifice his principles and betray his comrads. Hypocrisy and irony all in one delicious serving.

I would almost say it ironically enforces their principles, in that the rest of them couldn't "Secure their shit", and were hoist by their own petard.

Anyways, I'm glad these guys are gone, being an asshole for kicks and trying to say "Well you should've protected yourself better" instantly earns you a place on the Douchbag list in my opinion.

TitanAura:
What bugs me is what lulzsec was doing last year was "mostly" harmless and didn't end up actually hurting anyone seriously (at least as far as what was reported, correct me if I'm wrong). They really did seem to be doing it "for the lulz" and most of the time it just involved pointing out the flaws in security systems by stabbing it a few times and then pouring salt into the proverbial wound by gloating about how much their victim sucked at defending themselves. Back alley assault analogies aside, while I never considered them to be a high priority target, I'm not exactly sympathizing with their fate either.

More analogies: What they were doing was like towing away someone's car then saying 'look, your security sux because you didnt have GPS in your car!' If you did, they would've disabled it, lauding you for not having a backup.

Or opening your unlocked door (at least, Michael Moore has me believe the majority of americans lock their houses even when they're IN it), then shooting you, saying how crap your security is.

Anyway, to the leader, it sort of seems like GIFT to me, I wouldn't be surprised if someone hurt his kids in some way and said 'don't dish out what you can't take' (although I doubt it would happen).

I very much doubt anything would come of this as no one liked lulzsec anyway.

ResonanceSD:

The_root_of_all_evil:

maddog015:

This. Grabbing a handful of people who might be "leadership" isn't going to stop it. That's like saying "We killed Bin Laden! Terrorism is over!"

Or even before that...
image

I like your attitude of "We'll rise up again!" etc. etc. /snore.

However, this was a major bust, and it also proved that the supposed bastion of internet security breachers was just another guy who would easily rat out his friends. What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?

Most of them wouldn't be, they think they're heroes like from tiananmen square, standing up to oppression or the like, when their country is actively engaging in oppression, some of which they forget about that they need, and some of which they want to leak and expose.

I find this really sad. Personally I liked Lulzsec. Sure they DDOSed 4chan and the escapist but they did it to prove a point. Sure it was illegal... but so is copyright infringement.

Getting someone through their children is the reason why any organised crime group try to remove their families.

Also I don't belive this to be true. Last time there were arrests about Lulzsec it just turned out to be American Propaganda.

I Would like to think it was the same again. Also apparently their site had coprighted material on it...

What does it matter that they take down LulzSec?

The group stopped, it hasn't been relevant for yonks, they aren't doing anything anymore.

Sprinal:
I find this really sad. Personally I liked Lulzsec. Sure they DDOSed 4chan and the escapist but they did it to prove a point. Sure it was illegal... but so is copyright infringement.

First of all. What is your point?

Second, why do you find it sad? Because they're gone?

Sprinal:

Getting someone through their children is the reason why any organised crime group try to remove their families.

This just in, @AnonymouSabu was caught using known exploit, known as "Want to see your kids ever again?" #irony #FBI #anonymous

Hey, I lulzed at that. If you're going to have vulnerabilities built into a system, expect them to be exploited by everyone. Like the FBI.


This is delicious!

Nice to see that it's possible to actually get the people behind groups like this.

Wow.

I can't say I'll miss lulzsec; they were the Internet equivalent of a drunk kid smashing mailboxes and windows with a bat.

I'm a little sad to hear of someone's kids being used as leverage in this way, but as others have said, if you were really concerned about your kids, maybe the little crime spree ought to be something he left to those without such attachments, yes?

But with others noting the possibility of Sabu facing the ire of the remnant of Lulzsec and/or Anonymous, part of me has to wonder what their motivation was to release that information in the first place.

I mean, it's possible those it would be most relevant to already know, of course. But I wonder if this is just trumpeting of the agency's accomplishments, hanging a "resource" out to dry after his usefulness is past, or possibly even part of a secondary operation (trying to lure other hackers out of hiding when they take their "shot" at Sabu, so to speak.) Or some combination.

ResonanceSD:
What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?

What makes you think they aren't? Quick, before they get you as well...Be a shame if anything happened to that health bar.

Pluvia:
No, I changed the subject to Anon, I know who Lulzsec are.

It's not transparent otherwise we would know who they are. If you demand transparency you must also be transparent yourself. I want to see the faces of the people who demand this, yet they hide behind a mask so they can hide from the consequences of their illegal actions.

Remaining anonymous is fine. Remaining anonymous whilst demanding others don't is retarded.

Because if you're not completely anonymous, you run the risk of someone putting a stop to your voice before you can even be heard.

I know that sounds a bit grim, but it's hard to be completely honest when you know that if they knew who you are, saying the truth has the possibility of someone silencing your voice. I'm not saying that they would be instantly assassinated or anything involving murder, but I would not see it as unlikely that they would threaten with prison time for revealing something that the government would much rather keep hidden under the rug.

They are much more transparent then most of the people they speak against, they just hide their identities to avoid having the government stop them before what needs to be said is said. I don't agree with everything they do, but I think that it has more of a positive impact then bad in the grand scheme of things.

rapidoud:

Most of them wouldn't be, they think they're heroes like from tiananmen square, standing up to oppression or the like, when their country is actively engaging in oppression, some of which they forget about that they need, and some of which they want to leak and expose.

I don't mean to be a bother, but who are 'they'? Neither Lulzec or Anon (I'm not sure whom you are referring to) are all a group of people who work from their head quarters located in an particular country. Saying that 'their country' is engaging in oppression doesn't really make sense, because these groups have people living across the globe. You might need to clarify for me..

The_root_of_all_evil:

ResonanceSD:
What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?

What makes you think they aren't? Quick, before they get you as well...Be a shame if anything happened to that health bar.

What makes me think they aren't? Wasn't this guy meant to be the most balls-out anon at the time? If he's the vanguard of the Lulz brigade, and the one most willing to launch attacks, etc, why would others be more courageous?

And the moral of the story is...

Make sure you get caught first and your okay!

ResonanceSD:

First of all. What is your point?

Well Lulzsec ran around essentially breaking things just because it was funny (at least officially) then when op antisec started up they then started attacking groups that were corrupt. This is what I meant.... Or maybe I simply liked the idea of people breaking things and getting away with it. I don't know.

But if they are caught then it just shows how we can't trust anyone.

Second, why do you find it sad? Because they're gone?

Well yeah...

Also You're right about if there is an exploit then it will be used. I am like that and so are most people. But we are talking about the "noble protectors of innocesents" here... and as much as they are trying do the ends justify the means....

Okay I am probably making as much sence as a lunatic at this point so I shall stop.

ResonanceSD:

The_root_of_all_evil:

ResonanceSD:
What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?

What makes you think they aren't? Quick, before they get you as well...Be a shame if anything happened to that health bar.

What makes me think they aren't? Wasn't this guy meant to be the most balls-out anon at the time? If he's the vanguard of the Lulz brigade, and the one most willing to launch attacks, etc, why would others be more courageous?

He is affiliated with Lulz, they don't associate themselves with Anon and Anon doesn't associate with them. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're confusing the two to be one and the same.

If he cared so much about his kids then he wouldn't have done this whole thing in the first place.

What did Lulzsec actually accomplish? Nothing.
What was their purpose? "Lulz" apparently, which is worthless to me.

All they really ended up doing was giving out thousands and thousands of passwords and email accounts. Funny to some perhaps but I still call it criminal activity.

ResonanceSD:

The_root_of_all_evil:

ResonanceSD:
What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?

What makes you think they aren't? Quick, before they get you as well...Be a shame if anything happened to that health bar.

What makes me think they aren't? Wasn't this guy meant to be the most balls-out anon at the time? If he's the vanguard of the Lulz brigade, and the one most willing to launch attacks, etc, why would others be more courageous?

There's a reason they split off from Anonymous. What LulzSec did was retarded. Attacking the PSN network and causing it to go down for weeks on end was absolutely stupid. I would have been much more sympathetic had they exposed the weakness in PSN's security, left a .txt file on the servers explaining it as such, and then release a statement on what they did to the public. Instead they stole personal info.

I'll be the first to admit Lulzsec got what was coming to them.

1: Someones gonna wake up with his throat cut. ^.^
2: "a law enforcement official said. "That's how we got him."" Even though they are technically the good guys. That quote makes him sound like a right cunt.

3:

The_root_of_all_evil:

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Good luck with that.

Now the real war will begin.

My first thought exactly. Something tells me that dude has no idea how such "groups" work.

Zer_:

There's a reason they split off from Anonymous. What LulzSec did was retarded. Attacking the PSN network and causing it to go down for weeks on end was absolutely stupid.
I'll be the first to admit Lulzsec got what was coming to them.

Gamers are likely to support us as they know more about what we're fighting for! Quick! Knock off the PSN! That'll get them onside!

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