PAX East 2012: BioWare Claims TOR 1.2 Is the "Biggest Update Ever"

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PAX East 2012: BioWare Claims TOR 1.2 Is the "Biggest Update Ever"

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The Old Republic introduces ranked PvP and a new Legacy system that lets players build up their characters.

Update: The 1.2 Update is currently not scheduled to release this week as previously reported.

Showcased at PAX East, an upcoming expansion for award-winning MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic promised a deliver a veritable host of new gameplay features, including new missions, customization options and PvP content.

"Update 1.2 is a huge, massive update; it's probably one of the biggest, if not the biggest, free game updates ever," said Live Producer Cory Butler of the upcoming expansion. Butler said the highlight of the 1.2 update is the Legacy system, which gives players several options to level up their alternate characters while focusing on their main.

"If you're a huge PvP player, through the Legacy system, you'll be able to level [your alternates] faster just through PvP," Butler explained of how the Legacy system allows players to avoid grinding or repeating missions for their alternate characters. "If you're really into Flashpoints or Operations, you'll be able to do that as well."

Through the Legacy system, players will also be able to unlock special abilities tied to both their companions and the various decisions they've made throughout the main story quests.

The 1.2 update also includes several updates to SWTOR's PvP aspects, including a ranked PvP system and a new Warzone titled Novare Coast. Inspired by the invasion of Normandy in WW2, Novare Coast is a 3-point domination-style map where Jedi and Sith players battle to establish a beachhead and control the Warzone's artillery placements.

In addition to more multiplayer content, the 1.2 update introduces the next chapter in the Rise of the Rakghouls story arc in a new Flashpoint mission titled The Lost Island. There will also be several guild improvements, such as guild banks and calendars and the ability to customize the game's UI to better fit your preferences. Sadly though, there's no word on when Guilds can cruise around in their own capital ships just yet, although Butler stated that it's something BioWare's keeping on its radar.

The Old Republic's 1.2 update is scheduled to launch sometime this week.

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WMDogma:
The Old Republic's 1.2 update is scheduled to launch sometime this week.

I didn't know we had that definitive of a release date.

Mouse_Crouse:

WMDogma:
The Old Republic's 1.2 update is scheduled to launch sometime this week.

I didn't know we had that definitive of a release date.

me either, but since I have 1 male toon and 3 female ones, what the heck will my legacy tree look like?

Orks da best:

Mouse_Crouse:

WMDogma:
The Old Republic's 1.2 update is scheduled to launch sometime this week.

I didn't know we had that definitive of a release date.

me either, but since I have 1 male toon and 3 female ones, what the heck will my legacy tree look like?

Someone on the forums said that the launch this week was a mistake, just some guy at pax got a little confused a mixed up dates.

InTheEnd:

Orks da best:

Mouse_Crouse:

I didn't know we had that definitive of a release date.

me either, but since I have 1 male toon and 3 female ones, what the heck will my legacy tree look like?

Someone on the forums said that the launch this week was a mistake, just some guy at pax got a little confused a mixed up dates.

Did some additional research and found that BioWare confirmed that the "early April" release date was a mix up. Thanks for pointing this out!

WMDogma:
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No biggie.

Meh. This is all very cool but should have been released in March as originally planned. They didn't give an official release date but said it was planned for March back in January. It's taken way too long, too many people have unsubscribed in the meantime. Which is a shame because the game has great potential.

Now the hard times start for the game, I'm certainly intent on playing more.

WMDogma:
"Update 1.2 is a huge, massive update; it's probably one of the biggest, if not the biggest, free game updates ever," said Live Producer Cory Butler of the upcoming expansion.

Someone has clearly never heard of EVE Online.

Dont suppose we get some server transfer option with this? Can't tell you how depressing it was to make it to the fleet to find that the server consists of all of 6 players.

And when I finally get a server with a decent population they open up australian servers and half of the server is instantly gone.

Orks da best:
me either, but since I have 1 male toon and 3 female ones, what the heck will my legacy tree look like?

Hot, it will look hot.

I can't see how they can call the update "free" when players are paying $15 a month to play. Constant updates and new content is a must, not a charity.

I feel like this could better expressed in a canned copyrighted way:

Comic book guy: "Biggest... Update... Ever!"

Donald "Multiple Bankruptcies" Trump: "This update is going to be huge..."

Okay, I'm out of material. Anyone got any more?

I...really feel the need to point out to this fine gentleman, that "free" implies that the content is not paid for. I would then go on to discuss what a "Subscription Fee" is.

Ah still doesn't make me wanna resub.

Tired of big companies jerking people around for more money by making em wait for ages for new patches. Can't speak for the quality as I quit the game some time ago, but Trion Worlds have put out more content in a year than Blizzard have in more than two and that's a company less than a quarter their size! So one would think with the staff and money of a large company like Bioware or Blizzard they could deliver lots of quality content in (relatively) short amounts of time, hell if they did I'd probably still be subbed to wow!

Star Wars - but in Normandy during Operation Overlord? God dammit Bioware stop making this so fucking perfect. I guess I have to go back now.

Well I had a laugh reading this!

How long it has been since release? Half a year? And JUST NOW they released ranked PvP, it's mind boggling. Imagine playing random scenarios with no goal or rank for half a year! Trust me, any pvp-ers that played TOR where among the first who jumped into the lifeboats.

tangoprime:

WMDogma:
"Update 1.2 is a huge, massive update; it's probably one of the biggest, if not the biggest, free game updates ever," said Live Producer Cory Butler of the upcoming expansion.

Someone has clearly never heard of EVE Online.

pretty much what he said

And still no introduction of guild capital ships, guild baking only added now... I mean it's so bad it's laughable. And space combat is still just a gimmick

All they did is they added content that people will chew through in a week tops

This ship cannot sink fast enough for me.

Quit the game after my first month before I paid a sub. I like the Flashpoints, doing story-based missions as a group is a lot of fun as it makes you actually play to your talents and feel like you're doing something. But there's only so many of them and they make up a tiny chunk of the gameplay. The bulk of the game is the planetary missions and those are just repetitive, if you group up it becomes ridiculously easy, if you don't it takes too long. I don't know, I guess I just wish if companies are going to make MMOs like this, they from the start make it designed to play with other people, making an MMO and having more than half of the content be designed for solo play (space combat too after all is all solo) makes me think it would be better as a singleplayer game.

Axyun:
I can't see how they can call the update "free" when players are paying $15 a month to play. Constant updates and new content is a must, not a charity.

This is EA....a blue moon means you get something free...

OnTopic: for me...yeah...I played for about 2 months level capped and finished my story and wasnt very impressed... They basically tell you to go sit on your ass in the fleet and wait for something to do... Also it lacks an LFG system

swtor became boring in 2 months, now it's just terrible. I hope 1.2 changes that but imho people will just switch to DIII or GW2 or anything with some endgame content that doesn't take 2h a week to complete.

the game is completable in 2-3 weeks this is simply too little too late from bio-ware, it was obviously rushed out

legacy adds nothing to the game, except trying to make people re-roll and role-play to squeeze all the story out of the game possible

ranked pvp will likely end up more of a joke than the illum pvp changes

Swtor has become the tdu of the mmorpger scene, ambitious but rubbish

i left after a month, and i'm happy with that decision looking at the 'content' they've finally bothered to put in i wouldn't be willing to pay a continued sub for it

Still not enough to get me to subscribe. I just don't want to pay monthly fees anymore. I wonder how many subscribers they will lose when Guild Wars 2 is released.....

In terms of hard drive space, maybe it is the biggest update.

In terms of actually adding new and interesting content to the game, it's pretty lacking.

Biggest ever???

Hahaha Bioware is so full of crap.

Even LOTRO used to put out free expansions that had far more features, new zones, quests, and endgame content then these guys.

Bioware needs to learn how to not over hype everything. Personally the update got me to resub because I wanted to check out the legacy system and have a look around. But this hardly qualifies as best update ever. It looks to be a solid update not the next best thing since sliced bread.

cieply:
Well I had a laugh reading this!

How long it has been since release? Half a year? And JUST NOW they released ranked PvP, it's mind boggling. Imagine playing random scenarios with no goal or rank for half a year! Trust me, any pvp-ers that played TOR where among the first who jumped into the lifeboats.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There has been a pvp progression in the game since launch.

Dont believe the hype. You get one flashpoint, one warzone and 4 raid bosses. Rest of it is all fluff that might entertain for a week.

"biggest ever" from the same people who brought you "not just A, B or C"...

I'll believe it when I see it.

tangoprime:

WMDogma:
"Update 1.2 is a huge, massive update; it's probably one of the biggest, if not the biggest, free game updates ever," said Live Producer Cory Butler of the upcoming expansion.

Someone has clearly never heard of EVE Online.

This was my thought exactly. Between incarna and trinity (to name the biggest that immediately occur), that game probably holds this claim 5 times over. xD

Nimcha:
Meh. This is all very cool but should have been released in March as originally planned. They didn't give an official release date but said it was planned for March back in January. It's taken way too long, too many people have unsubscribed in the meantime. Which is a shame because the game has great potential.

Now the hard times start for the game, I'm certainly intent on playing more.

I plot to resubscribe when 1.2 rolls out, personally, as the burden of my studies shouldn't be as heavy as they were when I felt forced to cancel.

I've quite looked forward to the Legacy system kicking in. Now I just want to hear more on the additional romance options we've been promised, since I have strange priorities like that.

The Gentleman:
I feel like this could better expressed in a canned copyrighted way:

Comic book guy: "Biggest... Update... Ever!"

Donald "Multiple Bankruptcies" Trump: "This update is going to be huge..."

Okay, I'm out of material. Anyone got any more?

"That's no moon - that's an update!"

Anyway, I'm excited for 1.2 - I'm interested to try out the legacy system and put all those legacy levels I've earned to use.

DeMorquist:
They basically tell you to go sit on your ass in the fleet and wait for something to do

Yeh, when I first saw the interlude says 'Now yourname is most needed at Vaiken spacedock' I thought 'soooo... they're basically telling me to just afk on the fleet....ok then...'

OT: The game has no longevity whatsoever and this patch doesn't add any. It took waaaaaaaaaaay to long to make this patch. They are just so unbelievably slow at everything. They say they have a special team that works on performance improvements but this 'team' must be 2 guys who only work 1 day a week cos the only thing they have done in the entire 4 months is add a very low shader setting. Thats it, 1 thing in 4 months. They say server transfers is their #1 priority and they are taking ages at that too. What they need is the slave driver manager from Team Bondi in charge to force them to actually do some work, cos the only way they can possibly be this slow is if they spend half the work day playing fruit ninja.

Speaking of slow things, why does it take like 2 weeks for a new avatar to actually work these days?

Its mostly PvP stuff, not much enthusiasm from the non-pvp'ers. Personally, my attention is drawn to how many extra character slots we will be getting. Eight at launch, whats up with that?

Axyun:
I can't see how they can call the update "free" when players are paying $15 a month to play. Constant updates and new content is a must, not a charity.

Because if it was from Blizzard they would have called it an expansion and charged $39.95 for it on top of the 15 bucks a month they suck from your wallet

biggest update ever... aside from Rift and Eve.

cookyy2k:
"biggest ever" from the same people who brought you "not just A, B or C"...

I'll believe it when I see it.

You can see it now, patch has been on the PTS for the past two weeks.

New Warzone, new flashpoint, new operation, new quests, an entire legacy system with a shitload of unlocks for your ship and for every character you play, UI customization that is incredible, ranked PVP matches. All that and in general the game runs smoother and looks better too.

I won't say it's the biggest patch in the history of the genre, but it certainly is the biggest patch the game has seen thus far.

Wuvlycuddles:
Ah still doesn't make me wanna resub.

Tired of big companies jerking people around for more money by making em wait for ages for new patches. Can't speak for the quality as I quit the game some time ago, but Trion Worlds have put out more content in a year than Blizzard have in more than two and that's a company less than a quarter their size! So one would think with the staff and money of a large company like Bioware or Blizzard they could deliver lots of quality content in (relatively) short amounts of time, hell if they did I'd probably still be subbed to wow!

Iv been saying that for years. Its like how CCP claims that they will release ships from the design contest then they are like 5 years backlogged on it. Dc universe promised monthly updates and events. If you are paying for expansion of content but not getting it you should get a refund.

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