Ubisoft Ditches Always-On DRM

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Oskuro:
Is this retroactive? I never bought Assasins Creed 2 because of the DRM scheme. Will buying a copy now not require the system? 'Cause the game boxes at the retailer still carry the always-online warning.

Well, AC1 is on gog.com, with no DRM, naturally. Who knows, maybe we don't have to wait too much for AC2 being there, too.

Hah! About time. It is going to take some time for me to look at any of their games again as I trained myself to just ignore anything with their name attached to it. It did not help that they made this announcement after Pax Prime when I had a chance to look at their games but did not.

Anyway, it's a positive move. I have adjusted my attitude from "Ubi-who?" to "cautious optimism". Let's see what they do next.

OT: Happy birthday, Freddie!

well, thats at least something. was playing future soldier before. nice game. not great but nice. the good thing about uplay was, that i could get the whole soundtrack for free and some wallpapers. havent listened to the entire soundtrack yet, some are ok, some are crap but hey, it was for free.

I feel something is not right here i am very happy ubisoft have realized this was never the right solution.But it is to good to be true and i do not trust ubisoft there something is afoot here.

I'm confused and don't know how to feel. Should I be happy that the bullshit is over which could entice me to actually buy Ubisoft games now or should I be annoyed that it took them this long to get rid of the stupid thing?

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Sorry UBI, but you've lost me already. Should have listened a year ago when the entire internet was telling you just how stupid this whole DRM thing was.

Regardless of the reason, I for one am glad that they have finally made adjustments and will temporarily suspend my vendetta.

Harker067:
Hmm well they've made me reconsider getting Heroes of might and magic 6 but we'll see how things go...

If you do, I still have a coupon for the DLC campaign. But just know that the new DRM scheme wouldn't affect Heroes - it's only for new titles. H6 still requires always-online. Well, technically you can pay offline, but you lose some features of the game, which is annoying as hell and online single play is preferable.

Metzeten:
I wonder if the reason it only made up 7% of sales was because of the horrific and stupid DRM that actually made it preferable to be using a pirate copy.

This is almost certainly going to boost their PC sales.

I'd say this too.

Michael Pachter estimated Ubisoft's PC sales dropped by 90% with no boost to console sales after their DRM policy took hold.

4RM3D:

Metzeten:
I wonder if the reason it only made up 7% of sales was because of the horrific and stupid DRM that actually made it preferable to be using a pirate copy.

This is almost certainly going to boost their PC sales.

DVS BSTrD:

Though Ubisoft's DRM is no longer a PC problem, it's worth noting that - according to Ubisoft's figures - PC sales made up only 7% of the total in the last fiscal year.

You do know WHY it was only 7% don't you Ubisoft?

I am not going to defend Ubisoft here. But PC games get pirated on a MASSIVE scale; not just Ubisoft, every publisher suffers from piracy. Consoles have far less piracy and thus are more popular for devs.

The overall piracy rate for a popular game is between 50% and 75% on the PC and less than 20% on consoles.

Actually, games get pirated less because of DRM. The loss of people not buying the game because of DRM is less than the loss of people who pirate the game (who were potential buyers). The DRM gets cracked eventually, but it is just to prevent the game from being pirated for as long as possible, usually a week or 2.

CD Project would like to have a word with you
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117361-DRM-Is-Still-Dumb-Says-CD-Projekt

Too bad. Always On DRM is better than a lot of the other stuff they could throw at us. Like install limit.

Ubisoft, you jack-offs have been saying this since ACII launched on the PC and each year you've been saying "It's gone." I'm not going to believe you until you A: Remove it entirely, B: Get rid of fucking Uplay, and C: Embrace Steamworks. Up until then, I'm watching very carefully.

I'm glad. Ubisoft has made many games I've liked in the past. They only treat the PC crowd badly, and the DRM was really bad. I must say, this looks really good on my eyes. If they keep this up, I'll be happy again, and since I'm happier now, I'm willing to put aside some money for Assassin's creed 3. A small step in the right direction? Yes. But a right step none the less. Good for Ubisoft.

DoPo:

Harker067:
Hmm well they've made me reconsider getting Heroes of might and magic 6 but we'll see how things go...

If you do, I still have a coupon for the DLC campaign. But just know that the new DRM scheme wouldn't affect Heroes - it's only for new titles. H6 still requires always-online. Well, technically you can pay offline, but you lose some features of the game, which is annoying as hell and online single play is preferable.

I figured it would probably stay as such. My not buying it yet had more to do with I don't want to give you money while you're still doing this shitty policy (and some of the reviews though they've probably patched by now) then directly related to it being on the game. Thanks for the info and pointing out your coupon though :) I'll be thinking about it.

Does this mean that Heroes 6 no longer has a always on DRM?

hmmm

sounds like they've given up on pc gaming altogether

/cynicism

It's easy to mock them for U-turning (no pun intended), but it's a move I respect and welcome. One off activations are fine by me.

holy shitmonkeys on a biscuit...

you mean I can FINALLY play Assassins Creed without having to worry about my shaky internet connection!?!

Well done Ubisoft, it's only taken a few years... Better late than never I suppose!

Alright, that's a bit harsh, but it IS nice to see a company holding so many 'good' IP's to take a step forward and actually solve something that's wrong with themselves...

Now if only EA had a different marketing strategy... Activision didn't release the same game every year, and Microsoft actually make windows 8 for desktops and not tablets...
Oh, for the perfect world of technology!

4RM3D:
I am not going to defend Ubisoft here. But PC games get pirated on a MASSIVE scale; not just Ubisoft, every publisher suffers from piracy. Consoles have far less piracy and thus are more popular for devs.

Next time provide source for those numbers and percentages.

Every year I check the most pirated games, the number of pirated copies downloaded in PCs is only a couple times higher than the number of pirated console releases. That's not what I call "massive". To me "massive" is like a million times greater. Two or three times isn't "massive".

4RM3D:
Actually, games get pirated less because of DRM. The loss of people not buying the game because of DRM is less than the loss of people who pirate the game (who were potential buyers). The DRM gets cracked eventually, but it is just to prevent the game from being pirated for as long as possible, usually a week or 2.

No. The crackers (not "white people", the guys who make cracks) have a reputation. They want respect in the hacking scene. So they rush to crack a really tough DRM.

I remember there was a game that was released DRM-free and with DRM. The version with DRM was the one you found in torrents.

Also, no matter how many uninformed consumers/apologists exist, the use of draconian DRM only drives away sales.

4RM3D:

dangoball:
inb4 you being labeled as corporate sell-out :P

OT:
Well, this is good, right? So let's enjoy it while it lasts, for as we all know, big companies like to shoot themself in their feet. ;)

Meh, just explaining the situation.

You got two kinds of pirates:

1) People that don't CARE about the impact on the industry.
2) Poeple that don't KNOW about the impact on the industry.

The first group is hopeless to talk to, but I might be able to knock some sense into the second group ;)

I am not a fan of DRM. The usual ones, e.g. first time activation, are not so bad and I don't tend to have an issue with it. But Ubisoft went too far with the always online DRM. The install limit on some DRMs sucks also.

Eh, it won't achieve anything. Anyone who is willing to pirate a game doesn't mind waiting a few weeks. Its free, after all.

4RM3D:

Metzeten:
I wonder if the reason it only made up 7% of sales was because of the horrific and stupid DRM that actually made it preferable to be using a pirate copy.

This is almost certainly going to boost their PC sales.

DVS BSTrD:

Though Ubisoft's DRM is no longer a PC problem, it's worth noting that - according to Ubisoft's figures - PC sales made up only 7% of the total in the last fiscal year.

You do know WHY it was only 7% don't you Ubisoft?

I am not going to defend Ubisoft here. But PC games get pirated on a MASSIVE scale; not just Ubisoft, every publisher suffers from piracy. Consoles have far less piracy and thus are more popular for devs.

The overall piracy rate for a popular game is between 50% and 75% on the PC and less than 20% on consoles.

Actually, games get pirated less because of DRM. The loss of people not buying the game because of DRM is less than the loss of people who pirate the game (who were potential buyers). The DRM gets cracked eventually, but it is just to prevent the game from being pirated for as long as possible, usually a week or 2.

And your source for all of this information is... what? Show the proof.

Personally, I tend to see games protected by pretty much all DRM schemes around online not within two weeks, not within 1 week, not even within 1 day, but within hours of release. Sometimes, even before official release. DRM does NOT work at all, it only stops the honest and the ignorant. I doubt there is a game in my library that I couldn't have pirated on the same day it was released, except for a few that were the first examples of a new scheme.

PC games are certainly pirated, and a lot. But so are consoles.

Anyway, I really wonder if this is just because they are currently coming up with something even worse. The mind shudders to think of what evil plans they may have for us.

RhombusHatesYou:

Deviate:
I still don't trust them as far as I can throw them and the things they've said about the PC gamers over the years hasn't magically been unsaid yet. However, I am willing to give this gesture a token of approval by buying some game or another from them. Which one, eeeeh, doesn't matter I guess. Anyway, good job Ubisoft, but I still got my eye on you dogfuckers.

Yeah, between this and Epic suddenly deciding that "no, really, we've always loved the PC" I'm not sure what the fuck is happening but it's making me very suspicious.

Something very suspicious is going on. They're plotting something. We're onto them.

llyrnion:
Well, AC1 is on gog.com, with no DRM, naturally. Who knows, maybe we don't have to wait too much for AC2 being there, too.

AC1 didn't have any DRM originally, as far as I know.

A video game publisher listened to customer feedback and actually did something right? Did I land in some parallel universe? because I feel like I'm being fed bullshit. I'm shocked, man.

praetor_alpha:
Now we can work on that other issue - the one where I don't care for any Ubisoft IP.

WATCH_DOGS would like a word with you...

yayyyyy. Next up: Blizzard, hopefully.

If this is true then I am happy that I can finally buy Assassins Creed III.

I've heard this before, and I'm quite sure I will hear it again. The end result, I'll believe it when I see it.

Yay I can buy Ubisoft games again!

Damm, I already budgeted for all my games this year and Assassins Creed III didn't make the cut. Mostly due to potential DRM issues.

Cool does that mean Assassins creed 3 on the pc wont have it?

This is like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, been caught and turned into glue.

Well, call me cautiously optimistic, still not going to trust them, but if they release a game I'm interested in, and it actually does't have DRM on it, I'll buy it.

Captcha: Geronimo!

Why does that sound so ominous?

Yes i can finally lift my boycott of their games and just in time for AssCreed III and Watch Dogs!

Now i can start boycotting EA instead.

kortin:
Too bad. Always On DRM is better than a lot of the other stuff they could throw at us. Like install limit.

They got rid of install limits too. Go read the full interview. One time activation from here on out.. or say they say.

Thank Christ.

Now, if you could retroactively patch this into your games I might go out and buy some of the ones you already released!

TopazFusion:
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Will this open the floodgates of rampant piracy? Only time will tell ...

o.0

that pic is awesome .... what ever thought i had before was eaten by that bear o.o

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