Reggie Fils-Aime Says "Meh" to PS4/Xbox One Line-Ups

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Reggie Fils-Aime Says "Meh" to PS4/Xbox One Line-Ups

Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime feels "very good about the value proposition" represented by the Wii U.

Nintendo dropped some big news yesterday, announcing not only a price drop for the Wii U, but also the 2DS, a cheaper, 3D-free version of the 3DS. Now, commenting on the upcoming launch of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime has expressed why he thinks gamers should go with Nintendo.

"It's all about the games. The competitive systems have announced their launch lineups. I'm allowed to say 'Meh,'" said Fils-Aime. "I look at our lineup of titles and I feel good about our lineup. We've got Zelda. We've got Mario. We've got Donkey Kong. In addition to great titles like Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101, I feel very good about our lineup, and I feel very good about the value proposition we're putting out there for the consumer."

A proposition certainly made more attractive by the recent price drop. Much like the Wii benefited from being vastly cheaper than the Xbox 360 and PS3, it stands to reason that a $299.99 Wii U could look better to some consumers than than the PS4 and Xbox One which cost $399.99 and $499.99, respectively. Fils-Aime could arguably also have a bit of a case when it comes to the PS4 and Xbox One's launch line-ups. While both consoles will boast a few new exclusives, several of their bigger launch titles are multiplatform games that will be available on other systems, including the Wii U. We wouldn't quite say this amounts to "meh," especially considering some of the new features being added by the PS4 and Xbox One, but we could see why others might.

Source: IGN

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Well, gee whiz, I wonder what Sony has to say about Nintendo and Microsoft's line-up, or Microsoft about Sony and Nintendo's.

Whadda ya think?

Casual Shinji:
Well, gee whiz, I wonder what Sony has to say about Nintendo and Microsoft's line-up, or Microsoft about Sony and Nintendo's.

Whadda ya think?

"Seriously, those guys have blown us out of the water. I honestly don't know why we're bothering. Guys, just go and buy their console, because that's exactly what I'm going to do"

- Chad Business, head of PR

Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong as console hits... What happened, am I back in 1986? Oh man, I had a dream about the Berlin wall falling. Sigh. Alright, back to work. Need to fulfil the 5-year plan ya know.

Casual Shinji:
Whadda ya think?

Microsoft: "Ryse, Forza, and Dead Rising 3... Yeah, we're boned."

Sony: "Look at all these games we have! Driveclub! Killzone! Knack! Don't ask about Knack, we don't even know what that's about! And tons more, we- Wait, what do you mean inFamous won't make launch?"

Nintendo: "It's a-me! Mario!"

RaNDM G:

Casual Shinji:
Whadda ya think?

Microsoft: "Ryse, Forza, and Dead Rising 3... Yeah, we're boned."

Sony: "Look at all these games we have! Driveclub! Killzone! Knack! Don't ask about Knack, we don't even know what that's about! And tons more, we- Wait, what do you mean inFamous won't make launch? Well, we need something to fill that slot! Basement Crawler? What the heck is Basement Crawler?"

"... We're boned."

Nintendo: "It's a-me! Mario!"

That pretty much summarises my apathy towards the launch lineups. The only great looking platform exclusive to me is Killzone, but I can wait a year or two for one game.

OT: Oh Reggie, you so crazy

I'm starting to agree with this guy, at this point i'd much rather buy a WiiU, i just wished i could trust that it would get more third party support. I'm kinda hoping that From Software and Nippon-Ichi turns to Nintendo, but that doesn't really seem likely...

But i've been playing a lot of Wii lately, it really is refreshing because the line-up is a bit different to ps3 and X360. I guess i'm just getting burned out at all the flashy AAA games that seems more interested in crappy b-movie storytelling than actual engaging gameplay. And i'm not even a Nintendo guy, i've always gravitated towards 90s pc games and ps1-2 games^^, and i guess WiiU is closer to that than the direction ps4 seems to be going.

We've got the same Mario we've had three other times now, and another one that isn't out yet. We've got the same Zelda you played a decade ago, except we cranked the bloom up to 11. We've got a Donkey Kong game that isn't out yet. We've got a game which is apparently selling abysmally in Japan right now. And Pikmin 3 I guess. (I mean c'mon not even a mention of system-seller Smash Bros.?)

Look. Reggie. You're a cool dude.

But it's your job to say "meh" to the competitor. Don't act like it isn't.

While I find it sort of silly that Nintendo is doing so poorly, and the he comes out and says this.

.... I really can't help but sort of agree. I mean the Wii U had "meh" launch titles as well, but as it stands right now, the upcoming Wii U line up interests me greatly. The PS4/XB1 upcoming line ups are really uninteresting to me, and anything that was interesting is multi-platform.

Then again this whole industry seems to have problems. Everywhere. I guess you have to take whatever small victories come your way, whenever they show up.

"We've got Zelda. We've got Mario. We've got Donkey Kong. In addition to great titles like Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101, I feel very good about our lineup, and I feel very good about the value proposition we're putting out there for the consumer."
One problem - none of the released games so far SOLD WELL (let alone was a system seller - there probably won't be one until Smash Bros, either)

So, yeah, your line-up is way more 'meh' than theirs, buddy.

You already launched the Wii U and no-one gave a shit.

Nintendos american president isnt impressed by the lineup of his competitors... Stop the fucking presses....

Why is this even news?

Can we also get a headline about how the sky is going to be blue and that water will continue to remain wet?

It's a shame that quote could almost have been lifted from two decades ago.

Desert Punk:
Nintendos american president isnt impressed by the lineup of his competitors... Stop the fucking presses....

Why is this even news?

Can we also get a headline about how the sky is going to be blue and that water will continue to remain wet?

Sorry to be the one to say this, but water isn't wet. It makes other things wet, but the substance itself couldn't be called wet, as that would imply that it is in a solid state of matter, as opposed the the liquid state that it is actually in.

Anyway: If Nintendo can actually get some system sellers on the WiiU then more power to them.
Their current issue though is that game development is taking longer and longer and Nintendo simply doesn't have the number of studios and manpower to support all their franchises.

Thats why the last Starfox game was in 2005 and why we only get a new console Zelda game once every ~5 years or so.

I understand them not wanting to buy a studio and seeing all the talent leaving (see: Rare after MS acquisition, Bioware today, etc) but for the WiiU to properly compete Nintendo need to get several new installments of the franchises I like onto the platform, and do that before Sony does.

For me, Nintendo has always been the 'safe' investment. When a new console cycle comes around, I will happily put my money down for the latest Nintendo hardware, safe in the knowledge that there will be a solid library of quality, highly polished games for it.

As for the others? At the moment, the PS4 is building up a few titles that've captured my interest, and Microsoft once more seem to be going out of their way to not get any of my money.

Irony as that's what I've been thinking about Nintendo. Zing?

As far as Nintendo goes I'm struggling to find something that would make me want to buy back into Nintendo, but since they lost Rare they've nigh been dead to Me.

Mario, Link, Donkey Kong?

What does it matter if it's the same old characters as long as the games are good.

Change Link to be some kind of Wolf deity and set the game in mythological Japan instead of Hyrule and if it's a good enough game, who cares what the main character is called?

And honestly, He knows all about mediocre game line ups.

Casual Shinji:
Well, gee whiz, I wonder what Sony has to say about Nintendo and Microsoft's line-up, or Microsoft about Sony and Nintendo's.

Whadda ya think?

Sony: "Damn, who would've thought they'd have Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong? I guess we better declare bankruptcy and go home."

Microsoft: "But how will they watch football?"

Doom972:

Casual Shinji:
Well, gee whiz, I wonder what Sony has to say about Nintendo and Microsoft's line-up, or Microsoft about Sony and Nintendo's.

Whadda ya think?

Sony: "Damn, who would've thought they'd have Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong? I guess we better declare bankruptcy and go home."

Microsoft: "But how will they watch football?"

Microsoft: Better question, who will we watch who is watching football.

Sony: It's the great console war of 1995 all over again, I'm getting the flashbacks, man, THE FLASHBACKS!

Nintendo: Here's Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda. Enjoy it. What's that? Starfox? we have no knowledge of this franchise.

I'm sorry, I stopped following the console race the moment Sony mentioned there would be new Infamous.

In all seriousness though, isn't that a bit hypocritical of Reggie? Both PS4 and One are starting with a lineup of third party games that can pretty much make up a solid library right off the bat, plus a few big name titles per console either directly at launch or at least several months after it.

Meanwhile, Wii U has Pikmin. And its biggest draw is an upcoming remake of a 10-year-old game. The rest is a bunch of sloppy ports.

I think Reggie might be in denial.

You've got a Zelda that's a re-release of a game we could easily get for cheap now with graphical upgrades that aren't needed, you've got ANOTHER fucking Mario, ANOTHER fucking Donkey Kong (with dynamic fucking cameras guys!).

I think I'll stick with my PS4, Reggie.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the PS3, PS4 and Vita have way better indie support than you.

Sgt. Sykes:
Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong as console hits... What happened, am I back in 1986? Oh man, I had a dream about the Berlin wall falling. Sigh. Alright, back to work. Need to fulfil the 5-year plan ya know.

That's what I was thinking. The games may be solid, but it's the equivalent of Microsoft screaming "We have a new Halo, isn't our lineup better and original?" We've been playing those titles for over 30 years now. Give me something original and I'll think about it. Even if Microsoft is failing utterly with Ryse, at least they tried? Just if Sony had managed to get some of their indie titles onto launch day, this guy would not be talking. The majority of original games will be from non-major devs this time around, so whoever gets the most indies gets to boast, and it certainly isn't Nintendo.

Oh yeah Reg, because the WiiU launch had soooo many invigorating titles.

SO many.

I'm not sure buying a Wii U is worth it. I've no interest in Pikmin 3, and even though I love Smash Bros. and have never played Windwaker, it's going to take more than two good games for me to purchase it.

Buying the 3DS on launch was a bad idea, sure, but FIRE EMBLEM: AWAKENING DREAM TEAM LUIGI'S MANSION 2 ANIMAL CROSSING POKEMON X AND Y YES PLEASE.

*ahem*

I don't see that happening in the Wii U's future.

Wait, sorry Reggie, you fat Muppet. Your system didn't launch with a Zelda or Donkey King game. Neither even made the 'launch window' and Wii U's launch line up was just as poor as the incoming systems*. PS4 and Xbone are going to have far more games than the Wii U in a short period of time. This sounds desperate, why make pot-shots when he could be mentioning actual exclusives that wouldn't make him sound clueless. This man used to be great at PR :(

*http://www.ign.com/wikis/wii-u/Wii_U_Launch_Games_(US)

He's kinda got a point. If you actually look at the number of launch exclusives either console has, it's a bit paltry. The PS4 has only got four exclusives at launch I believe. The rest of its games are cross-generational games that are also available on PS3 and 360. Not exactly a huge motivator to upgrade your console, when the majority of its games this fall are games you can also play on your old console. At least the Wii U has got a large number of exclusives.

Megacherv:
You've got a Zelda that's a re-release of a game we could easily get for cheap now with graphical upgrades that aren't needed, you've got ANOTHER fucking Mario, ANOTHER fucking Donkey Kong (with dynamic fucking cameras guys!).

I think I'll stick with my PS4, Reggie.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the PS3, PS4 and Vita have way better indie support than you.

Actually, Nintendo is killing it at indie support right now. They've got around 50 indie games scheduled to release on the Wii U eShop in the near future, and have made the eShop about as indie friendly as it's possible to be.

Another Donkey Kong? You do know that prior to DKCR, the last Donkey Kong Country game was released on the SNES, right? All we got between then and now was a dodgy 3D platformer and that weird Gamecube Bongo thing. An overabundance of Donkey Kong is not a problem right now. Especially when you look at Sony, and realise they released three Uncharted games in the same period of time Nintendo released one Donkey Kong game.

And Nintendo just released a new IP. It's pretty fuckin' awesome. The problem is, people don't buy new IPs, so they're not exactly giving Nintendo much incentive to move away from Mario and Zelda.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

Another Donkey Kong? You do know that prior to DKCR, the last Donkey Kong Country game was released on the SNES, right? All we got between then and now was a dodgy 3D platformer and that weird Gamecube Bongo thing. An overabundance of Donkey Kong is not a problem right now. Especially when you look at Sony, and realise they released three Uncharted games in the same period of time Nintendo released one Donkey Kong game.

And Nintendo just released a new IP. It's pretty fuckin' awesome. The problem is, people don't buy new IPs, so they're not exactly giving Nintendo much incentive to move away from Mario and Zelda.

Hey! Don't disrespect the Donkey Kong Jungle Beat! That game was a great Donkey Kong game!

OT: Yeah, I'm not surprised the Reggie is meh to those launches, I'm usually meh to most launches. I think the only launch I was ever excited for was the Gamecube, and only because of Melee.

Casual Shinji:
Well, gee whiz, I wonder what Sony has to say about Nintendo and Microsoft's line-up, or Microsoft about Sony and Nintendo's.

Whadda ya think?

I expect nothing but praise from rival companies. Why do you ask?

I mean, it's not like Reggie is promoting a console on similar grounds or anything, right?

I really want to say that Nintendo got my vote the moment Bayonetta 2 was announced. Bayonetta sequel was all but canned. No one was going to put money down to put a niche game, but Nintendo did. There is no way anyone is going to believe Bayonetta 2 was going to sell consoles, but that fact that Nintendo put down money for the sequel to be made definitely earned my respect by Nintendo.

Most importantly Nintendo seems to be fixing their line up on niche AAA titles. Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, X, Fire Emblem x Shin Megami, and Pikmin. Those are titles that everyone knows will not sell systems but I greatly appreciate that they exist. Far more than Destiny or Titan Fall where they were designed to please a far greater audience.

The_Echo:
We've got the same Mario we've had three other times now, and another one that isn't out yet. We've got the same Zelda you played a decade ago, except we cranked the bloom up to 11. We've got a Donkey Kong game that isn't out yet. We've got a game which is apparently selling abysmally in Japan right now. And Pikmin 3 I guess. (I mean c'mon not even a mention of system-seller Smash Bros.?)

Look. Reggie. You're a cool dude.

But it's your job to say "meh" to the competitor. Don't act like it isn't.

He was talking about the future line up, so NSMBU doesn't come into play, of course Zelda and Donkey Kong aren't out yet, and Wonderful 101 had no advertising and a small amount of copies were shipped, so they didn't expect a million in sales. Smash Bros. is not coming anytime soon.

The_Echo:
We've got the same Mario we've had three other times now, and another one that isn't out yet. We've got the same Zelda you played a decade ago, except we cranked the bloom up to 11. We've got a Donkey Kong game that isn't out yet. We've got a game which is apparently selling abysmally in Japan right now. And Pikmin 3 I guess. (I mean c'mon not even a mention of system-seller Smash Bros.?)

Look. Reggie. You're a cool dude.

But it's your job to say "meh" to the competitor. Don't act like it isn't.

Pretty much my perspective. Yeah, he's right in pointing out that the launch line ups for both the One and the PS4 aren't exactly mindblowing. But, truthfully, neither is the line up that the Wii U has even though it's already been out for a while. Unless you've already chosen the horse you want to back in the early stage of this console generation, I would actually advise against buying any of the new systems, Wii U at it's new lower price included.

Its a meeeee MEH-rio!

Had to do it. :D

Wow, he has the same reaction as I do to every single console launch titles ever...

Gee, if only I could get a big, bold headline like that: "FootloosePhoenix says 'Meh' to Nintendo Launch Line-up. And Nintendo Games in General." You've got Zelda(!), Mario(!) and Donkey Kong(!), huh? Not exactly breaking new ground here, guys. I know those will still sell like hotcakes, but it's funny how two out of three of those haven't been released yet when he's talking about the games that will be out immediately at the other consoles' launches. Though of course, he's right in a sense; launch line-ups don't tend to be spectacular, but I don't think it's all too bad this generation either. I'm definitely not in a hurry to dive into the next generation, but I'm looking forward to a number of future titles on the PS4.

And the WiiU's been out now what, not quite a year? Nintendo should have a much stronger library at this point than their competitors.

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