Nintendo Aiming 2DS at "Young Kids"

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subtlefuge:
$130 makes for a really cheap and durable kid's tablet that can play Pokemon and Mario, so it seems like a no-brainer.

I just don't get this thing, the 2ds emulates a dual screen but in fact it has only one touch screen, nintendo actually aded an plastic protect screen so the top "screen" isn't "touchable", why cripple your hardware, nintendo should have just made this the nintendo tablet or something it would have been better than this piece of cheap crap

anthony87:

WeepingAngels:

anthony87:
What's all the fuss about this? It's cheaper than the 3DS, plays the 3DS games and there's no 3D gimmick.

And that's.......bad?

Think it will outsell the 3DS?

No idea. Not really concerned either. I've been meaning to get a 3DS but just haven't gotten around to it yet and if a cheaper option is now available then I'm happy. I imagine I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

I imagine that there are many like you who would sacrifice the 3D for a savings of $40. IMO, this is Nintendo competing against itself.

Drauger:

subtlefuge:
$130 makes for a really cheap and durable kid's tablet that can play Pokemon and Mario, so it seems like a no-brainer.

I just don't get this thing, the 2ds emulates a dual screen but in fact it has only one touch screen, nintendo actually aded an plastic protect screen so the top "screen" isn't "touchable", why cripple your hardware, nintendo should have just made this the nintendo tablet or something it would have been better than this piece of cheap crap

Doing that would make the 3DS obsolete if any new games used the second touch screen.

Cant wait to see how the second analog attachment for that thing looks like.
The 3ds xl turned from a brick into a monster, this thing will become a table without legs.

That thing looks really uncomfortable to hold... Granted it reminds me of an etch a sketch.

slash2x:
Snip.

I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I'm going to give it anyways. My younger siblings are 11 and 13 right now, but have had DS' since the age of 7 and 8, respectively. Since then, my brother (11) has gone through three DS' and my sister (13) has gone through 1 because they've broken off the hinges. The 3DS' that they have, at least my brother's, is also starting to loosen. I won't be surprised if he manages to snap one off by Christmas.

Until those hinges are made of stronger stuff, it's fine if they're targeting the younger crowd with a hinge-less DS.

Drauger:

subtlefuge:
$130 makes for a really cheap and durable kid's tablet that can play Pokemon and Mario, so it seems like a no-brainer.

I just don't get this thing, the 2ds emulates a dual screen but in fact it has only one touch screen, nintendo actually aded an plastic protect screen so the top "screen" isn't "touchable", why cripple your hardware, nintendo should have just made this the nintendo tablet or something it would have been better than this piece of cheap crap

uhhhh, the top screen isnt a touch screen in the regular 3ds, only the bottom is, and im pretty sure thats the same for all DS consoles. theres also no point in making it touch as no games would use it and its just meant to be a new version of the 3ds.

OT why are people angry about this? there is a 3ds already that isnt that much more expensive at all that has the same function

AngelOfBlueRoses:

slash2x:
Snip.

I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I'm going to give it anyways. My younger siblings are 11 and 13 right now, but have had DS' since the age of 7 and 8, respectively. Since then, my brother (11) has gone through three DS' and my sister (13) has gone through 1 because they've broken off the hinges. The 3DS' that they have, at least my brother's, is also starting to loosen. I won't be surprised if he manages to snap one off by Christmas.

Until those hinges are made of stronger stuff, it's fine if they're targeting the younger crowd with a hinge-less DS.

Can i ask (as someone who has only recently brought his 3ds) is this a common occurance, the hinges wearing out quickly or did he just take really bad care of it?

Hazzard:

I was under the impression it was selling badly, I suppose that comes from listening to the Content Patch by Total Biscuit

There's your problem, you had your media set to "Evil."

Okay, slight hyperbole there, but yeah. I would trust Michael Patcher before TotalBiscuit. I mean, I appreciate the exposure he gives games, but he really isn't one to let facts get in the way of a good rant. Or a bad rant. Or a sideways shot.

The 3DS is doing well currently, according to NPD. The only real problem Nintendo seems to be having is that they promised even bigger sales than what they're getting.

prpshrt:
That thing looks really uncomfortable to hold... Granted it reminds me of an etch a sketch.

For a child, this design is probably good.

spartandude:

uhhhh, the top screen isnt a touch screen in the regular 3ds, only the bottom is, and im pretty sure thats the same for all DS consoles. theres also no point in making it touch as no games would use it and its just meant to be a new version of the 3ds.

It's supposedly one screen, which is supposedly cheaper. Whether the top is usable is one thing, but if it's oen screen, it has to be a touch screen by default.

after reading a link today, i have to agree with its findings.
the 2DS is made to do one thing.

SELL POKEMON X and Y

its comming out at the same time as x/y
its cheaper by the price (thereabouts) of that game
its aimed at the 5-7 year old demographic that would buy *ANYTHING* if it was 1) collectable and 2) had pokemon licencing on or in it.
it can be given to said 5-7 year old, and leave them to play all day with it, because it has no 3D

also, the adverts are clearly showing that it can play all 3DS games, and all the 1000s of back catalogue DS and DSi games.
moms and dads dont have to worry about the 3D, so they can leave their spawn with the thing unsupervised, since ya know..TV and all is just too violent these days *eyerolls*

as to the one screen, top touchable, that dosent actualy have to be true. all they have to do is add another layer of hard plastic and its not touchable anymore (at least not TOO touchable. if you poke it hard enough im sure it would react..probably by breaking Xd but yeah

and yes, the hinges ARE weak.
i have the brick (silver DS) the DS lite, the DSi XL...aqua blue 3DS and animal crossing installed 3DS XL.
over the years, by hinges have weakend, by BFs broke outright on his reconditiond silver brick, so i had to get him an ice blue spare...
my aqua was bought 1month and 10 days befor the black zelda bundle (dont ask XD) and its hinges are loose allready. so a hinge less version will at least solve the snapped in half problem.
screens can be replaced a LOT easier than the hinge..same with laptops. we swap out the screens but once its hinges are borked, its gameover for the thing

This thing is a piece of junk and I cant see why any parent would buy it over the, only slightly more expensive, 3DS version.
It has worse sound (mono-speakers....wtf?), no 3D, is not foldable, looks like a gravestone and has some strange asymetrical design, has shorter battery life than the XL, screen is unprotected and practically demands an extra cover to buy...
even if you dont like the 3D, buying a 3ds and than just putting 3D to zero is still the better option.
Same problem with the Wii mini, which was also a piece of junk and didnt sell.

And for those who talk about stability....my 6 year old cousin has dropped his 3DS like a million times and the thing still works. At least the screen is protected, when its folded!

AngelOfBlueRoses:

slash2x:
Snip.

Double Snip

Sorry for the confusion. I do not think the current hinge system is for children either. My son snapped his (regular DS)off too, course he fell down the stairs but it was pristine before that.

I am talking about a hinge more like this
image

So keep the current design then add a hard cover that could be closed when it is not in use/if the touch screen is not needed with cutouts for the buttons so it can be used even while closed.... Hell if you setup the hinge correctly it could act as a stand when opened.

AngelOfBlueRoses:

slash2x:
Snip.

I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I'm going to give it anyways. My younger siblings are 11 and 13 right now, but have had DS' since the age of 7 and 8, respectively. Since then, my brother (11) has gone through three DS' and my sister (13) has gone through 1 because they've broken off the hinges. The 3DS' that they have, at least my brother's, is also starting to loosen. I won't be surprised if he manages to snap one off by Christmas.

Until those hinges are made of stronger stuff, it's fine if they're targeting the younger crowd with a hinge-less DS.

Sounds like someone needs to learn how to take care of things. 11 and 13 is too old to be mistreating a DS.

WeepingAngels:

AngelOfBlueRoses:

slash2x:
Snip.

I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I'm going to give it anyways. My younger siblings are 11 and 13 right now, but have had DS' since the age of 7 and 8, respectively. Since then, my brother (11) has gone through three DS' and my sister (13) has gone through 1 because they've broken off the hinges. The 3DS' that they have, at least my brother's, is also starting to loosen. I won't be surprised if he manages to snap one off by Christmas.

Until those hinges are made of stronger stuff, it's fine if they're targeting the younger crowd with a hinge-less DS.

Sounds like someone needs to learn how to take care of things. 11 and 13 is too old to be mistreating a DS.

Yeah, well, they're little shits who act more like they're in the single digits still than they are in the double digits.

spartandude:
uhhhh, the top screen isnt a touch screen in the regular 3ds, only the bottom is, and im pretty sure thats the same for all DS consoles. theres also no point in making it touch as no games would use it and its just meant to be a new version of the 3ds.

Yeah that's the point, why if if the 2DS is using a whole touch screen why downgrade their hardware, instead of giving the public a better and cheaper product they cripple their own hardware....... am I the only one seeing a problem here?

Drauger:

spartandude:
uhhhh, the top screen isnt a touch screen in the regular 3ds, only the bottom is, and im pretty sure thats the same for all DS consoles. theres also no point in making it touch as no games would use it and its just meant to be a new version of the 3ds.

Yeah that's the point, why if if the 2DS is using a whole touch screen why downgrade their hardware, instead of giving the public a better and cheaper product they cripple their own hardware....... am I the only one seeing a problem here?

If technology is less expensive, then expect it to have less features. If it's better, then it will get more expensive. That is generally how technology works.

If I were to play a 2DS right now, the only difference I would notice in gameplay is no 3D option. That's about it, and I guess the miniscule difference in mono sound compared to stereo.

I'm confused, isn't 3DS without the 3D just a plain old DS? Or is there some important hardware update, which makes it 2DS? Or is it just the different design choice?

Strazdas:
so a 3DS without 3D, meaning nothing of value lost but the thing is cheaper? good move nintendo, good move.

Here's the thing, something of value was lost, the clamshell design. I'm fine with this design existing for incredibly young children, but they should seriously make a clamshell 2DS and 2DS XL. I can't put a 2DS in my pocket and I trust clamshells to not break the screen if it somehow drops. And also: It's ugly.

I don't care about 3D, but I wouldn't buy this even if I didn't already have a 3DS XL. I'd save

Pepsik:
I'm confused, isn't 3DS without the 3D just a plain old DS? Or is there some important hardware update, which makes it 2DS? Or is it just the different design choice?

Hardware update, game compatibility. I can't play the new Fire Emblem on my DS

spartandude:

Drauger:

subtlefuge:
$130 makes for a really cheap and durable kid's tablet that can play Pokemon and Mario, so it seems like a no-brainer.

I just don't get this thing, the 2ds emulates a dual screen but in fact it has only one touch screen, nintendo actually aded an plastic protect screen so the top "screen" isn't "touchable", why cripple your hardware, nintendo should have just made this the nintendo tablet or something it would have been better than this piece of cheap crap

uhhhh, the top screen isnt a touch screen in the regular 3ds, only the bottom is, and im pretty sure thats the same for all DS consoles. theres also no point in making it touch as no games would use it and its just meant to be a new version of the 3ds.

OT why are people angry about this? there is a 3ds already that isnt that much more expensive at all that has the same function

AngelOfBlueRoses:

slash2x:
Snip.

I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I'm going to give it anyways. My younger siblings are 11 and 13 right now, but have had DS' since the age of 7 and 8, respectively. Since then, my brother (11) has gone through three DS' and my sister (13) has gone through 1 because they've broken off the hinges. The 3DS' that they have, at least my brother's, is also starting to loosen. I won't be surprised if he manages to snap one off by Christmas.

Until those hinges are made of stronger stuff, it's fine if they're targeting the younger crowd with a hinge-less DS.

Can i ask (as someone who has only recently brought his 3ds) is this a common occurance, the hinges wearing out quickly or did he just take really bad care of it?

Really bad care of it, The hinges are not strong enough to deal with people who have no sense of the word "careful". An adult probably has no chance of breaking a DS in that time without genuine hardware defects.

Like, if/when I have kids they're just not getting a portable console until I can trust them. External controllers which lack a screen are less likely to break and if they do break they're less expensive than consoles.

I thought the 3DS was aimed an young children... Look at the games.

Zachary Amaranth:

Hazzard:

I was under the impression it was selling badly, I suppose that comes from listening to the Content Patch by Total Biscuit

There's your problem, you had your media set to "Evil."

Okay, slight hyperbole there, but yeah. I would trust Michael Patcher before TotalBiscuit. I mean, I appreciate the exposure he gives games, but he really isn't one to let facts get in the way of a good rant. Or a bad rant. Or a sideways shot.

The 3DS is doing well currently, according to NPD. The only real problem Nintendo seems to be having is that they promised even bigger sales than what they're getting.

I think the reason I had the idea now is because The Escapist made a few reports on Nintendo doing badly and I've just heard nothing else about it in ages, constant delaying of games has been making me think Nintendo has been doing badly as well due to what I've thought was a lack of games being sold.

Hazzard:

I think the reason I had the idea now is because The Escapist made a few reports on Nintendo doing badly and I've just heard nothing else about it in ages, constant delaying of games has been making me think Nintendo has been doing badly as well due to what I've thought was a lack of games being sold.

Even then, the 3DS wasn't selling horribly. It mostly just wasn't living up to the hype and promises of Iwata and company. They practically promised it'd be bigger than Jesus, and it was almost inevitable that, when they couldn't reasonably get that, it'd be reported as a failure or unsuccessful.

It wasn't all sunshine and roses, but it certainly wasn't horrible.

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