Sony Admires Microsoft's Decision to Change Xbox One

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I am happy there will be some competition at least too, both companies would treat their consumers like shit at the first opportunity like they have in the past. Sony learned to be a bit more humble after the poor start of the PS3, Microsoft will have to learn the same lesson. They are slowly getting it, they backed down on the policies that annoyed a lot of people and they have been stumbling after Sony and trying to improve XBL Golds value compared to PS+.

Feels very like "we need people talking about the PS4 more but we havent got anything new to say about it at the moment" type of comments

amaranth_dru:

Vivi22:

amaranth_dru:
Put it like this folks, if Microsoft does lose and stop making consoles, and Nintendo decides the US market is no longer profitable, you realize that there will be no more competition to drive down prices and Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want? Unless for some reason the SteamBox thing is embraced by the non-core gaming society, which I doubt heavily.
Less competition though will mean more you'll pay and no incentive for Sony to care what you say.

Anyone who honestly believes that Microsoft failing in the console business and/or Nintendo pulling out would lead to less competition doesn't know much about the history of the console industry.

I'm not saying they will, I'm saying that people who root for Xbox and Nintendo to fail are short-sighted.

Well it's actually Microsoft and Nintendo or if you like, Xbox One and Wii U. Just a pet peeve, choose to group things as companies or products.

Anyway, after what Microsoft tried to pull I sort of want them to fail so that no one tries that again.

amaranth_dru:

Angelous Wang:

amaranth_dru:
Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want?

Did you miss the the entire PS1&PS2 15-16 years of undisputed console dominance?

Even when they have the monopoly console game prices are kept in check by PC game prices and other things.

Nope, and actually the PSX almost failed in its first few years. Sega was still around back then and Nintendo also had consoles. So there was no undisputed dominance. PS2 era marked the failure of the Dreamcast and the rise of the Xbox, also Gamecube existed. So there was no monopoly for 15-16 years. Take off the nostalgia glasses.

No monopoly but Sony certainly had dominance and what did they do? They charged $40 for games (if memory serves) while Nintendo went on charging $50 and beyond.

We aren't going to pretend that the N64 was really any competition for the Playstation are we?

If you know the story of the Dreamcast, you know that they killed it because of the dominance of the PS2 BEFORE it was even released. That is because the PS1 had such dominance for years prior and the PS2 was gearing up to be even more dominating. In other words, Sega knew they were better off making games for the PS2 than trying to compete with it, a lesson they learned from the dominance of the PS1.

Mangod:
Atta boy, Sony! Keep rubbing the salt in that wound!

Honestly, I'm almost starting to feel bad for Microsoft.

I read on this site a while ago that Sony said if the PS4 isnt successful then there will be no PS5 - now the PS4 will sell well - but then you know companies an their sales. Like a game selling 6mil can be seen as a failure for some strange reason. They are in debt still, especially their entertainment department. MS, on the other hand will do well enough for another console. Sony really shouldn't keep making jokes about MS because if they do end up quitting the hardware business, they are going to be embarrassed by the fallout of MS comments. But personally, i hope both companies sell enough to make a console for the next-next gen.....or they just both work together and co produce a console.

Psychobabble:
Fair enough. I agree it's a brilliant PR move, but I still disagree it in any way is a positive thing for Microsoft. As nice as they sound Sony are still twisting the knife in their competition. As if they see the Xbone as such a weak competitor they can afford to offer them sympathy and platitudes.

Absolutely. I agree with that 100%.

It comes across as nice but is more like patting a kid on the head saying, "Who's a smart boy?" to Microsoft. Their comments as to the competition's strength shows that they're still viewing them as a threat to be reckoned with which, if true, means that Sony isn't going to let up just because of some light already visible at the end of the tunnel. I imagine Sony thinks of the ps1 and ps2 generation and just looks at the ps3 performance in disgust. I mean, heck, those first two generation showed them selling more than the competition combined and multiple times the next closest console. I think they're trying to get back there this time and this is the way to do it. It's also the right time. Nintendo's console is looking terrible while Microsoft made huge PR misteps. If the released product is everything it appears to be, Sony could easily be selling multiple times more than the XBO. I'm not sure what Microsoft can do to avoid that. They'll probably announce a XBO version without the mandatory kinect next year that should drop the price to $350 (according to the statement that it costs almost as much as the console to manufacture). But all these 180s are certainly hurting their image and it's looking like they're going to have another system reliability issue.

All Sony really has to do is deliver what they appear to already have. I was expecting the WiiU to pick up sales as of August... it's only doing worse while the 360 and ps3 have picked up significantly as is expected during the holiday quarter.

http://www.vgchartz.com/tools/hw_date.php?reg=Global&ending=Monthly

PSV and PSP are also doing surprisingly bad. Though both are doing better than the WiiU... so... Good luck to Nintendo. If that price drop in Sept didn't do it then I they've got to do something drastic (like dropping the gamepad which I've consistently pointed to as a $140 price inflator).

amaranth_dru:
Put it like this folks, if Microsoft does lose and stop making consoles, and Nintendo decides the US market is no longer profitable, you realize that there will be no more competition to drive down prices and Sony will have free reign to charge whatever they want? Unless for some reason the SteamBox thing is embraced by the non-core gaming society, which I doubt heavily.
Less competition though will mean more you'll pay and no incentive for Sony to care what you say.

A whole lot of ifs in there. And Sony has dominated for 2 straight gens but never tried to do what you claim....so where are you getting this from? This is the same company that has been giving you free games and very well could have packed their console full of DRM and mandatory overpriced cameras but did none of that. They've gone out of their way to be the most consumer friendly and they still get this kinda shit thrown at them. It's mind boggling.

Further, there will always be competition in this industry as long as there's money to be made. Sega fell off and MS jumped right in that slot. If N goes, another will take that spot.

So they only "admired" them for making changes after they humiliated them at E3, made 300 billion jokes about them after the fact, pointed and laughed at them once they quickly reversed their policies that started the E3 fiasco in the first place, called them wusses for not sticking to their guns, and laughed at them some more about it.

Great to see Sony are acting like admirable people in this situation.

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