Microsoft's Penello: Xbox One Is Built For The Future

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Microsoft's Penello: Xbox One Is Built For The Future

Welcome to the Cloud. You know what the Cloud is, right?

There's just about a month to go before we finally see the new consoles compete head to head, and Microsoft doesn't want you to forget that its Xbox One is built for the future. To that end, Albert Penello has one or two things to tell you about the Cloud, Kinect and other future-type things. Klaatu barada nikto, and enjoy the show.

Any Xbox One in all the world is yours! Though your neighbor may object if you remove his machine in the dead of night; bonus points if you do it while wearing a black mask and carrying a bag marked 'swag'. Ever wondered how Skype fits in to your Xbox One world, or what the revamped Kinect can offer you? Wonder no more. But if you were wondering how the rep systems and achievements work, you may want to look at this. Friends list got you confused? Have a look here.

Roll on November 22nd, when all this will be out in the wild and we see how it really works.

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It may be "built for the future", but the question is if the tech necessary for it to work is able to do so in sparsely-populated areas or less favorable conditions. Considering the economic situation, I don't think the future will favor devices that are reliant on technologies that require connectivity, but instead how self-reliant a device is on itself.

Dr.Awkward:
It may be "built for the future", but the question is if the tech necessary for it to work is able to do so in sparsely-populated areas or less favorable conditions. Considering the economic situation, I don't think the future will favor devices that are reliant on technologies that require connectivity, but instead how self-reliant a device is on itself.

The future seems to be a fully connected society more so than it is now, those who can afford it will buy it and those that cannot will be left behind

Well, fuck! And here I was thinking the X-Box One was built for the 1800s, the height of steam power. Because kids are really into steampunk right now. Looks like Microsoft screwed up again!

So the Future is Facebook 24/7?

EffectiveKill:

Dr.Awkward:
It may be "built for the future", but the question is if the tech necessary for it to work is able to do so in sparsely-populated areas or less favorable conditions. Considering the economic situation, I don't think the future will favor devices that are reliant on technologies that require connectivity, but instead how self-reliant a device is on itself.

The future seems to be a fully connected society more so than it is now, those who can afford it will buy it and those that cannot will be left behind

Poor people don't exist, and there were no problems with America until Obama took office ~_~

DVS BSTrD:
So the Future is Facebook 24/7?

EffectiveKill:

Dr.Awkward:
It may be "built for the future", but the question is if the tech necessary for it to work is able to do so in sparsely-populated areas or less favorable conditions. Considering the economic situation, I don't think the future will favor devices that are reliant on technologies that require connectivity, but instead how self-reliant a device is on itself.

The future seems to be a fully connected society more so than it is now, those who can afford it will buy it and those that cannot will be left behind

Poor people don't exist, and there were no problems with America until Obama took office ~_~

you know damn well it started with George.

I mean, we had a sweet deal going on, economic prosperity, good healthcare, but OH NOOOOO.

we want no taxation without representation.

Not to mention all that tea that was wasted. what the hell, man.......

OT: next week, Some other Microsoft exec will say what someone said was taken out of context....

Remember when these devices focused on how they enhance the "Games"?

Sure. A machine with a 500Gb HDD that's still using DDR3 RAM is totally built for the future. You know what this means, right? It means that if a lot of people buy the Xbone, it will be the device that will hold back the entire fuckin' industry. So do the world a favor and don't buy it.

Anyone else automatically prefixing every mention of "Future" with "Dystopian"?

Because that sure as hell seems exactly what XBox One was build for. Privacy? Hah! Outdated ideals!

Your very identity is now offloaded to remote servers. A camera constantly watching and tracking your actions and those of anyone with you.

And yeah, I know. Paranoia. Not something to let your actions be fully guided by, but neither something to ignore. Especially since more and more often governments and companies don't seem to take people's privacy as serious as they should.

Hagi:
Anyone else automatically prefixing every mention of "Future" with "Dystopian"?

Now that you mention it...

If they wanted it to be future-proof they should have at least stuck in a bigger hard-drive, or made the it able to be upgraded like the PS4.

This whole take your content with you. It still has to be downloaded right? How often do you go to someone else's house and wait for 14+ gigs to download before you START playing? And next gen titles could be 50 gigs.

Forget taking your content with you, in many places bandwidth caps will straight up prevent you from making digital purchases or games.

Microsoft should realise that early adoption makes future success so much easier. The PS3 has had to muscle it's way up to Microsoft's podium for the past few years because early adoption was pretty bad in comparison to the 360 (in the west at least).

Look at the WiiU, early adoption was flat out bad, and people don't tend to give second chances.

Making a console for the future is a bad choice in my opinion, making a console for the present but with the future in mind would have been a better step (like the PS4 for example).

Hagi:
Anyone else automatically prefixing every mention of "Future" with "Dystopian"?

Because that sure as hell seems exactly what XBox One was build for. Privacy? Hah! Outdated ideals!

Your very identity is now offloaded to remote servers. A camera constantly watching and tracking your actions and those of anyone with you.

And yeah, I know. Paranoia. Not something to let your actions be fully guided by, but neither something to ignore. Especially since more and more often governments and companies don't seem to take people's privacy as serious as they should.

Nope...you aren't the only one. Seriously though MS seems to have little clue as to what they're selling...

Hahaha... HAHAhahaha... HAHAHAHA! *Cough, splutter*

Ahem... sorry. I just thought I read that Microsoft believe their new console is 'built for the future.' Wait, they really do?

HAHAHAHAHA!

Really though, immature cackling aside, I can purchase PC parts for the same price the Xbone will cost me and have a vastly superior gaming machine. And looking at the Xbox exclusives, the games really don't sway me either. I am definitely a PC gamer through and through, yet at least Sony's exclusives look good enough that if I had the income, I would buy a PS4.

Aaaaaand I'm still not getting one. They can throw all the buzzwords they want around trying to mask the various issues that come with these new features (e.g. the downloads times that come with taking your profile anywhere, hardware that could well be out of date and insufficient within a year or two) but until Microsoft present some kind of compelling argument as to why the Xbox One is either better than competitors and/or is unique and different from them somehow I will remain uninterested.

I am starting to wonder if Microsoft Suit #7 spewing forth more buzzwords and hype is really still news. Especially when it seems to be the same crap repeating with slightly different wording.

My respect for a company goes down incrementally every time I hear them use the word "future" in a description of their product. It's an empty ambiguous buzzword they resort to when they can't concretely explain why a new feature they're pushing is inherently good. It's even weirder however when it's used to describe features that have existed for years.

They talk about the "cloud" (their new buzzword) like it's some new innovation and not essentially just using the internet. Cloud computing is a concept that goes back to ARPANET in the 60s. Even if we take "cloud" to mean the increased functionality and accessibility to home users Microsoft has been giving it's online features, we're still talking about a trend that began in the mid 2000s with things like the Amazon Web Service.

The Kinect was something they already unsuccessfully tried to popularize with their last console to try and ride the coattails of the Wii. I'm sure this ones much improved, but incremental improvements to past designs doesn't make my think "future".

My loathing for Microsoft has reached such a new peak that I couldn't even stand to watch either of those linked videos. I heard the shill line 'What are you most excited for about the Xbox?', before answering 'going back to Playstation' and closing the tab.

It probably won't, but I sincerely hope their product crashes into flames. Any attempt to re-write the concept of ownership like they have, time and time again, needs to be aggressively attacked and destroyed with extreme prejudice.

it's the future...like garlic bread...

sorry but as far as i'm concerned the 22nd of November is only of calendar note because that's when the Doctor Who 50th anniversary kicks off...and i just want a games console (if we are gonna have such things) to be a games console...

maybe you should have made one of those microsoft...y'know, instead of the exploitmylifeforcashploxbox...

And we've gone full circle back to 'THE CLOUD IS THE FUTURE' bullshit.

Because hey, it didn't work the first time, maybe it will the second.

*backs away slowly*

Man am I glad I watched this clip. I had almost convinced myself to buy an xbone, but now I'm fucking angry again. Good job touting EVERY SINGLE feature I despise. That takes skill.

Well this is good but its late, they needed to let people know about features months ago.

Let's play a game. Every time you try to sell anything by using the expression "TEH FUTUREZ" you get flayed alive. Okay, maybe not literally, but rhetorically.

Well, the video makes a lot of claims, but I can sum it up:
"We built the Xbone for the FUTURE...but it's really only built to cash in on current trends."

"The Cloud". Penello glossed over this, and with good reason: Cloud computing is INCREDIBLY IMPRACTICAL for actually boosting performance for real-time games. Why? Because the places where games could most benefit from extra processing power ("scalable" parameters) are also those that generate the most raw data (big files being sent over the tubes) and are the mostly timely (need to be processed quickly).

Everything else described about "The Cloud" was just Steam. Cloud saves, downloadable games, yadda yadda yadda.

Kinect 2.0 isn't going to improve gaming. At best, it's a cute gimmick control system that wows people who haven't seen it before, and that's it. Enjoy your dance games, because that's the best anyone will ever develop for it, based on what's been made for Kinect to date.

Apart from that, the features for "SmartGlass" amount to nothing more than a glorified social media hub.
It's Facebook for Xbone, only with a limited version of FRAPS built in.

"The future of today, tomorrow!"

After watching the video, in it's entirety, this is essentially what I heard:

"The Cloud! Facebook 24/7! The Cloud! Tablet/phone based content pinning! The Cloud! Even more powerful and accurate cameras that watch everything you're doing while playing! The Cloud! The Kinect makes sure you're playing your games in the Microsoft approved manner! The Cloud! Skype integration! (because consoles clearly never had VOIP capabilities before) The Cloud! A whopping 30 seconds of video recording! The Cloud! Controller swapping! The Cloud! Games calling your cellphone while you play, jacking up your phone bill! The Cloud! Dashboard navigation with your smart phone! (because who the fuck uses a controller anymore?) The Cloud!"

So, in short, a lot of buzzwords, "future tech" that's been around for years, even more omnipresent social media, and more emphasis on meta-gaming instead of core gaming.

Yep. That's exactly what I needed to hear to convince me to purchase your overpriced, ugly, glossy brick, Microsoft. I'mma rush out to Gamestop and preorder one right now.

Oh look it's Microsoft again spewing their PR bullshit trying to convince us that the Xbone is a next gen console. It's more like a current gen in terms of specs.

When you think about it..if you would buy parts for a PC for 500$ you would buy a more powerful rig than what their console can offer.

GamerMage:
Remember when these devices focused on how they enhance the "Games"?

It feels like such a long time ago. Everything game related this generation hasn't impressed me in the slightest.

Sometimes I wonder if the future 'thinking' was actually in the past where the focus would mainly be on making great entertainment through many many different genres, and they could actually be niche or really strange and still be able to make a living of it.

Dystopian is my choice of words right now as well as long as things are forced.

DarkhoIlow:
Oh look it's Microsoft again spewing their PR bullshit trying to convince us that the Xbone is a next gen console. It's more like a current gen in terms of specs.

When you think about it..if you would buy parts for a PC for 500$ you would buy a more powerful rig than what their console can offer.

Right, you know enough to look at the GHz and memory size. You are wrong though a $500 will perform nothing like the Xbone, at the moment there are too many API layers and inefficiencies in bandwidth between components in PCs to get that kind of performance from matching hardware.

PCs only outperform consoles through brute force, by massively exceeding them in specs and having the raw horsepower to get the extra software performance. Consoles operate closer to the metal and have simpler interfaces by sharing graphics and system memory instead of having graphics memory and system memory which causes bandwidth bottlenecks, again this is only solved by brute force and ensuring your hardware has the largest available potential bandwidth.

PC horsepower = cash

Just a graphics card to match next gen hardware will set you back around half the cost of the Xbone and two-thirds the cost of a PS4, factor in a CPU which is about the same and then at least the price of an XBone on a case, PSU, RAM, Mainboard and the little bits and pieces needed for a nice rig. This does not include peripherals or monitors which is a huge chunk of cash for someone setting up a PC for the first time.

Me? I am bypassing all of that and going for overkill and getting a GTX 780 and ensuring I will be ready for anything the next gen can throw at me.

I love the future! It's like the present but more futuristic!! Just look at these future toasters:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/futuristic-toasters_n_1974758.html

Check out the 'toast trebuchet'. Or the 'scan toaster'. It burns pictures! On your toast! I can't wait for the future, man. It's gonna be so awesome. More convenience! More connectedness! Just imagine if you could connect your XBox One to your future toaster. With just the command 'XBox Toast', it could send a signal to the toaster to print an image of the speaker on a slice of toast. And then..then the toast would then be launched right through the air, guided by the magic of Kinect, directly to the waiting player's mouth. Wow! That's the future man. XBox Toast. In the future! Soon!

Man their PR is such a train wreck. I think sony did it write. They just showed us the games they would have on their console, how pretty it looked, how it would play on their consoles, and then just shut the hell up. Now that MS backtracked on the bullshit don mattrick pulled like a moron I dont understand why they just dont shut up and let their console and games do the talking for them when they come out.

J Tyran:

DarkhoIlow:
Oh look it's Microsoft again spewing their PR bullshit trying to convince us that the Xbone is a next gen console. It's more like a current gen in terms of specs.

When you think about it..if you would buy parts for a PC for 500$ you would buy a more powerful rig than what their console can offer.

Right, you know enough to look at the GHz and memory size. You are wrong though a $500 will perform nothing like the Xbone, at the moment there are too many API layers and inefficiencies in bandwidth between components in PCs to get that kind of performance from matching hardware.

PCs only outperform consoles through brute force, by massively exceeding them in specs and having the raw horsepower to get the extra software performance. Consoles operate closer to the metal and have simpler interfaces by sharing graphics and system memory instead of having graphics memory and system memory which causes bandwidth bottlenecks, again this is only solved by brute force and ensuring your hardware has the largest available potential bandwidth.

PC horsepower = cash

Just a graphics card to match next gen hardware will set you back around half the cost of the Xbone and two-thirds the cost of a PS4, factor in a CPU which is about the same and then at least the price of an XBone on a case, PSU, RAM, Mainboard and the little bits and pieces needed for a nice rig. This does not include peripherals or monitors which is a huge chunk of cash for someone setting up a PC for the first time.

Me? I am bypassing all of that and going for overkill and getting a GTX 780 and ensuring I will be ready for anything the next gen can throw at me.

You are technically correct, but remember this. The difference between a 7th gen console and a PC with the same/similar specs is about 15-25%. In other words, a 7th gen console gets 20% more gaming performance then a very similar PC (though a PC does much more then gaming...)
This next gen though, all consoles will be X86-64 based, this means PC optimization ought to be better (gap is getting smaller), the console's OS takes up to 3 GB of RAM (PC is only 1-1.5... and can do more yet again :P)

Beating a Xbox 1 for the same price is gonna be tough. Ask me again in 5 months to 1 year's time and I would say that it would be VERY possible to beat it. With the release of DDR4 RAM and GDDR6 video memory of coarse :P. Factoring in mantle and Steam OS (both bridge the gap in optimization tremendously) could also be a factor.

Haha. No. My 3 year old PC is better specc'ed than a XBone or PS4. And I've got the "Cloud". I've got it linked to 3 or 4 different clouds at the moment, (5 if you include World Community Grid/BOINC)

Well, if its indeed "built for the future" I might consider buying it. Somewhere in the future. When we have flying cars and shit.

Nazulu:

GamerMage:
Remember when these devices focused on how they enhance the "Games"?

It feels like such a long time ago. Everything game related this generation hasn't impressed me in the slightest.

Sometimes I wonder if the future 'thinking' was actually in the past where the focus would mainly be on making great entertainment through many many different genres, and they could actually be niche or really strange and still be able to make a living of it.

Dystopian is my choice of words right now as well as long as things are forced.

Agreed. Really says something when indie game studios like Zeboyd and the guys behind Doom and Destiny can create well liked games with a large amount of content can be more enjoyable RPGs than most of what Square-Enix has released as of late, doesn't it?

The Telescreen was also built for the future. Thankfully, those two aren't even remotely simila-
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Mother of god.

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