Grand Theft Auto V PC Petition Breaks 600,000 Signatures

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Grand Theft Auto V PC Petition Breaks 600,000 Signatures

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The number of people demanding Grand Theft Auto V on the PC continues to grow.

Back in July, a Change.org petition calling for a PC version of the currently console-exclusive Grand Theft Auto V garnered 200,000 signatures, a number big enough to draw itself to our attention. By the middle of September that number had climbed to 375,000, and now, just a hair more than a month after that, the petition stands at over 600,000 signatures.

It's a big number, but still well shy of its ultimate goal of one million sigs. The good news is even if the petition falls short, it's very likely that the game will come to the mouse-and-keyboard set anyway. Not only is there precedent - PC versions of past GTA releases have always lagged behind their console cousins - but "multiple industry sources" told Eurogamer earlier this month that a PC release would arrive in the first quarter of 2014, echoing a similar, slightly earlier prediction by Intel executive Chris Silva.

While the "Release Grand Theft Auto V on PC" effort continues to make headway, the infinitely more amusing "Don't Make a PC Version of GTA V" petition seems to have run out of steam: after hitting 10,000 signatures in mid-September, it's managed to climb to just a little over 11,000.

Source: Change.org

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A part of me is surprised that due to the incessant trolling on the internet, the "Don't Make a PC Version of GTA V" doesn't have more votes than the original petition.

Although nobody in their right mind would take it seriously, it would be kind of funny.

I have no doubt they will release it eventually, but considering they still have the PS3 and Xbox versions that need issues ironed out, I imagine they are probably waiting for the time being. If they did announce the PC version while the ones already out have many known problems, they'd get a lot of criticism sent their way.

They better announce it soon. I have played the game on the PS3, but I'm starting to see spoilers everywhere, even in topics that have nothing to do with GTA V. I know how shitty it is to have something spoiled for you so I sympathies with PC gamers who had certain events from the story spoiled for them. I run that risk every time a new Assassin's Creed game comes out because of the PC delay. I think it's quite remarkable that I managed to avoid all of them.

Legion:
A part of me is surprised that due to the incessant trolling on the internet, the "Don't Make a PC Version of GTA V" doesn't have more votes than the original petition.

That's the thing about GTA though. It's basically Troll Simulator 2013 already. So all the people who would usually troll the petition are the ones who want the game so bad.

Why do people continuously feel the need to openly beg a company for the privilige of giving the company money? Especially if said company has a history if sneering at them, barely able to hide its contempt for that set of customers?

Of course they are going to release a PC-Version for it.
And of course it will have atrocious controls and poor hardware optimization.

... Just like all the previous GTAs!

Wasn't the whole "don't release GTA V for PC" thing sparked by people pirating it for the XBox? Kinda tells you how blindly some people lash out on the Internet.

Legion:
I have no doubt they will release it eventually, but considering they still have the PS3 and Xbox versions that need issues ironed out, I imagine they are probably waiting for the time being. If they did announce the PC version while the ones already out have many known problems, they'd get a lot of criticism sent their way.

It's my understanding that Playstation gamers have had this sort of thing happen to them before, though it seemed to be more because of Sony's own policies than the developers' actions or preferences.

The most amusing part of this whole thing is that people honestly believe that a AAA game that made $800M in a single day hasn't already got a PC port planned.

Given the quality of Rockstars ports count me uninterseted in a GTA V port. I've got sleeping dogs, as it is don't think I need another openworld crime game.

It just seems like a missed opportunity for games to not come out on PC nowadays.

I'd rather see Red Dead Redemption or dozens of other console games make it to PC :P

Credossuck:
Why do people continuously feel the need to openly beg a company for the privilige of giving the company money? Especially if said company has a history if sneering at them, barely able to hide its contempt for that set of customers?

This is kind of why I'm sticking with Saints row 4. Seriously Fuck rockstar and the horse they rode in on. I'm so sick of companies screw over pc gamers (looking at you Blizzard) because the console market means more to you. Still the online mode might even be worse for pc users. I do hope it's at least a reasonable port for the people who are going to buy this.

Proverbial Jon:
The most amusing part of this whole thing is that people honestly believe that a AAA game that made $800M in a single day hasn't already got a PC port planned.

Well, maybe because the money they gain from the PC release is like pocket change to them? Because PC users are all pirates who don't deserve to give them money? Because they suck at making PC ports? (The last one is actually true)

At this point I've kinda stopped caring. They'll most likely release the game on PC sooner or later, but I dislike the treatment we're getting. I like mouse controls when I shoot, I don't want to be punished for that. I'll get it at a Steam sale because I'm not paying full price for a game that will likely be at least 6 months old by the time it gets released.

For those people that are saying that the game will be inevitably released on PC...That is true. I think the point of the petition really is to have some kind of call of communication from Rockstar, since they're displaying Valve-Levels of secrecy, which honestly doesn't sit well with people. I certainly don't like Valve's attitude and Rockstar's is no better.

One thing to note is that GTA V will be significantly harder to port to the PC than GTA IV if for the simple fact that Microsoft recently announced their discontinuing of Games for Windows Live.

CBanana:
One thing to note is that GTA V will be significantly harder to port to the PC than GTA IV if for the simple fact that Microsoft recently announced their discontinuing of Games for Windows Live.

Why would THAT make any porting difference?

Petition is still off and as usual still pointless.

Also the PC only's once again acting as if they have been victimised and scorned for years, almost as if consoles have never once suffered anything bad themselves.

CBanana:
One thing to note is that GTA V will be significantly harder to port to the PC than GTA IV if for the simple fact that Microsoft recently announced their discontinuing of Games for Windows Live.

That would only affect the online components, since they work very similarly to the xbox live service (which is actually why they're treated with such disdain, xbox live matchmaking ect. only really works well in massive titles where there are tons of players and even then it's a bit squiffy). But i'm fairly sure if tiny indie devs can make multiplayer games run perfectly well, rockstar can manage to code steamworks into their game instead of GFWL :)

The amount of butt-hurt on that petition is amazing. A lot of the signature messages are people trashing consoles, they sure are showing their superiority by acting like children.

Bindal:

CBanana:
One thing to note is that GTA V will be significantly harder to port to the PC than GTA IV if for the simple fact that Microsoft recently announced their discontinuing of Games for Windows Live.

Why would THAT make any porting difference?

Games for Windows Live uses the same multiplayer/netcode as the XBox360. This is why many ports from the XBOX360 such as GTA IV use Games for Windows Live as that means that the programmers don't have to rewrite a large chunk of the netcode from scratch.

I don't know why there's a petition for this when it's all but confirmed that there will be a PC release.

Andy Chalk:
PC versions of past GTA releases have always lagged behind their console cousins

False. Back when GTA1 and 2 were still things, they were PC games first and console games second. The fact that the balance has now shifted to "console game first, PC game... maybe" (not just with GTA, I hasten to add) is why there's so much butthurt among the PC gaming community these days.

I'm quite surprised I've managed to keep the spoilers to a minimum.

Apart from the reviews that showed a bit of footage I don't know anything about GTA 5 and I can't wait to play it once it comes to PC.

But seriously, is it really that hard to have a multiplatform release, including PC to be released on the same day?

Glaice:
But seriously, is it really that hard to have a multiplatform release, including PC to be released on the same day?

Its not that hard, rockstar are just retards.

The Forces of Chaos:

Credossuck:
Why do people continuously feel the need to openly beg a company for the privilige of giving the company money? Especially if said company has a history if sneering at them, barely able to hide its contempt for that set of customers?

This is kind of why I'm sticking with Saints row 4. Seriously Fuck rockstar and the horse they rode in on. I'm so sick of companies screw over pc gamers (looking at you Blizzard) because the console market means more to you. Still the online mode might even be worse for pc users. I do hope it's at least a reasonable port for the people who are going to buy this.

Ditto, I had money in hand when GTA V came out, but they decided my money wasn't worth their time, so I spent it elsewhere on companies that don't feel the need to be douchebags.

Glaice:
But seriously, is it really that hard to have a multiplatform release, including PC to be released on the same day?

No, but people pay for exclusivity. Sony pays to have things on the PS3/4, and MS pays to have things on 360/Xbone. Who pays to have things exclusive on the PC? Besides, PC is a fundamentally different platform. With the Xbone and PS4 also being x86 systems, it'll be easier to port shit, but right now, it's still a lot of work to port a game one way or the other. I'm sure it's not that hard to make it run on a PC, but it is to make it run well. So it's not surprising that devs that are primarily console devs focuses on finishing the console version first and release a PC version later. I actually kinda appreciate that. 1:1 console ports tend to be assjuice.

Not going to bother with the "Devs are scum" discussion that seems to be going on here.

I'm happy for you PC guys, I had a blast with GTAV and if you're not too busy boycotting everything that doesn't release on your platform(?) you should definitely give it a go when it hits PC. While it's not the god send game to end all games that it was hyped to be (nothing ever is) it certainly is one of the best games of this year.

They know what they're doing, they knew a good chunk of players who already bought it on a console will get it again on PC, so the pricks delay it since obver a billion in 3 days isn't good enough.

Denamic:

Glaice:
But seriously, is it really that hard to have a multiplatform release, including PC to be released on the same day?

No, but people pay for exclusivity. Sony pays to have things on the PS3/4, and MS pays to have things on 360/Xbone. Who pays to have things exclusive on the PC? Besides, PC is a fundamentally different platform. With the Xbone and PS4 also being x86 systems, it'll be easier to port shit, but right now, it's still a lot of work to port a game one way or the other. I'm sure it's not that hard to make it run on a PC, but it is to make it run well. So it's not surprising that devs that are primarily console devs focuses on finishing the console version first and release a PC version later. I actually kinda appreciate that. 1:1 console ports tend to be assjuice.

Everyone says that..the whole with "the next gen will have x86 and the ports to PC will be easier".

It may be that way, but why does that even matter when publishers/big 3 will still do the same as previous gen: pay the publishers of the devs that make the games to keep the games exclusive to their console so this pointless console war continues.

The Rogue Wolf:
Wasn't the whole "don't release GTA V for PC" thing sparked by people pirating it for the XBox? Kinda tells you how blindly some people lash out on the Internet.

No, it was spawned by piracy on the PC, and people later called it hypocritical because of the 360 version being pirated. It was likely a troll job anyway, but it wasn't lashing out at the 360 piracy at all.

In any event, many of the signatures on that petition were PC players venting their anger. A lot of "Fuck you you filthy console scrubs! PC gaming master race 4 lyf!" so if it was a legit petition it was a major failure. If it was to troll people, then it seems to have really worked.

Kheapathic:
The amount of butt-hurt on that petition is amazing. A lot of the signature messages are people trashing consoles, they sure are showing their superiority by acting like children.

...Or maybe they didn't need to be trolled for that reaction.

Credossuck:
Why do people continuously feel the need to openly beg a company for the privilige of giving the company money? Especially if said company has a history if sneering at them, barely able to hide its contempt for that set of customers?

It's almost like people want to play games they're interested in or something.

m r:
This from the site with the complete lack of taste to give GTA V a 7/10. Ohhh now you want it on PC though. That's nice. lol.

While Greg is EIC here, he doesn't speak for everyone on the staff. Nor does the article make any reference of wanting GTA.

Really, there's nothing funny, ironic, or even sensible there. A video game news site is going to report on things related to one of the hottest games of the decade. In related stories, movie sites will discuss movies like Avatar even if they don't like them and comic book sites will talk about the new 52 even if they think it's dumb.

The Forces of Chaos:

Credossuck:
Why do people continuously feel the need to openly beg a company for the privilige of giving the company money? Especially if said company has a history if sneering at them, barely able to hide its contempt for that set of customers?

This is kind of why I'm sticking with Saints row 4. Seriously Fuck rockstar and the horse they rode in on. I'm so sick of companies screw over pc gamers (looking at you Blizzard) because the console market means more to you. Still the online mode might even be worse for pc users. I do hope it's at least a reasonable port for the people who are going to buy this.

To be fair on Blizz I think they need to release more than one game on current/next gen consoles before you can say they're screwing over PC gamers for the console market...

Denamic:

No, but people pay for exclusivity. Sony pays to have things on the PS3/4, and MS pays to have things on 360/Xbone. Who pays to have things exclusive on the PC?

Who paid to keep GTA OFF the PC, would be my question. I mean, this should be somehow relevant to the scenario. Did Rockstar charge both companies for exclusivity and cheat them? Did Sony and Microsoft pool their cash for a "no PC" clause? Honestly, in what world does this make any applicable sense?

Zachary Amaranth:

Denamic:

No, but people pay for exclusivity. Sony pays to have things on the PS3/4, and MS pays to have things on 360/Xbone. Who pays to have things exclusive on the PC?

Who paid to keep GTA OFF the PC, would be my question. I mean, this should be somehow relevant to the scenario. Did Rockstar charge both companies for exclusivity and cheat them? Did Sony and Microsoft pool their cash for a "no PC" clause? Honestly, in what world does this make any applicable sense?

I didn't say they did, because I have no idea. I was speaking in a general sense. The reason I believe GTA V to be delayed for PC is the additional development required, as I mentioned in the latter part of my post. That, or spite.

Zachary Amaranth:

Denamic:

No, but people pay for exclusivity. Sony pays to have things on the PS3/4, and MS pays to have things on 360/Xbone. Who pays to have things exclusive on the PC?

Who paid to keep GTA OFF the PC, would be my question. I mean, this should be somehow relevant to the scenario. Did Rockstar charge both companies for exclusivity and cheat them? Did Sony and Microsoft pool their cash for a "no PC" clause? Honestly, in what world does this make any applicable sense?

The latter you have listed is probably more likely... and I wouldn't blame them either.

Both Sony and Microsoft have probably seen that when a release on the PC is delayed there are far more sales on consoles as it's more difficult (and risky) to pirate on consoles than PC. So perhaps Rockstar has a clause of "Can not PC release or mention a PC release being in progress until X days/months after Xbox/PlayStation release", money changes hands and everyone involved in the transaction goes away happy in some way. Rockstar knows PC gamers will still buy the thing via Steam in the future; Rockstar gets to iron out the PC kinks before release; Rockstar, Microsoft, and Sony don't get their first month revenue infringed upon by PC piracy. Microsoft, and Sony don't get their first month revenue infringed upon by PC purchases.

It's a sound meta business model, all things considered.

They wouldn't do it with all games as not all games have the potential (and staggering) returns as GTA. Hell GTA makes AAA look small. GTA was essentially "S class" when all is considered.

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