Game of Thrones is Most Pirated TV Show For Second Year

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EightGaugeHippo:

Remember folks, Piracy is Illegal, talking about it isn't.

Depends on where you live. Here, piracy (for home use) is legal, as long as you don't upload anything (so torrents are technically illegal here, newsgroups aren't)

Here's the reality: Nearly all piracy is done at convenience because something which could be easier but isn't is in effect. It will continue until the balance is restored. Everything that people can't get through usual channels will explore other avenues no matter what you do. You can either facilitate them by being the provider of the demand and make money...or be the rock in the path of the water and watch as you get circumvented.

As the OP says, this is not a statement of whether it is right or wrong. It is just a fact. Many businesses could be trying to work with people and get paid as a result of it, but instead try to stamp on everyone's toes and wonder where the trust goes. It's not about right or wrong. It's just a poor business decision and people saying 'Screw them'.

I dont know about America, but here in the UK the only way to legally watch it (besides DVD which I do buy btw) is on the channel Sky Atlantic and you to subscribe to Sky for that, and me having Virgin Media must resort to the internet when the new season comes out.

IceForce:

vdrandom:

EightGaugeHippo:

Remember folks, Piracy is Illegal, talking about it isn't.

Yeah, but forum rules say otherwise:

...posts including, advocating, or linking to illegal or adult material are a very quick way to end your time as part of The Escapist community. An example of these are: Piracy...

Which I interpret as "Say something good about piracy and be banned".

It's true, I've seen people on this forum who made comments in support of piracy, get moderated for it.

In fact, I've seen cases, in threads about piracy, where one entire side of the argument (the side supporting it) has been moderated, and the other side has been left completely alone.

In any case, official Escapist news threads about piracy are not uncommon:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/tags/piracy

The Escapists hypocrisy gets REALLY funny when you see people calling pirates "scum" and not getting modded when a few posts before someone admitting to piracy gets moderated.

So, you are allowed to break the rules and call groups who visit the escapist names here so long as its an OK group to hate on. hell I remember someone calling police officers scum, now I am in law enforcement and I take offence to it, but when I bring it up to the moderators will they do anything about it? Fuck no. I report it, no action, I put it in the moderator group I get yelled at for not pushing the report button.

In short; Never expect balanced moderation ~.^

OT: Not surprising, HBO has a really, really shitty distribution service. A lot of my friends will pirate the episodes as they arent made available to them, then as soon as the DVDs are released they will order them from amazon the day they are available. So they are still HBOs customers.

Aris Khandr:

The_R3d_Fury:
Seriously? I could swear I was watching GoT week by week as it came out.

I can't speak for season one, since I got in on the whole thing late, but that's how two and three are working. It is also possible that they brought the earlier seasons to Australia so late that the DVDs were already available in the US, so they allowed iTunes to sell it like a normal TV show.

DanielBrown:
And boobs. So much boobs!

Don't you mean wieners? :p

Oh, ok, I see where the confusion came from.

In Australia, the shows were made available on iTunes parallel to the US releases. The day that the episode aired in the US it became available for download in Australia. This didn't happen in America, though, only Aus.

vdrandom:
The most childish thing here is the way you jump at me for quoting Gabe. I'm not aware why you hate him and me for quoting him. :)

Also, I'm saying that there are both problems, but you and a lot of publishers there are focusing on the wrong one.

while you can convert people affected by service problems to paying customers by adding value to your service and making it more available, there is no way you can convert those who are not going to pay anyway. That's what I've been saying all along: the ways content publishers try to fight piracy are wrong. Focus on service quality and availability, not on monopolizing your content and stripping out of money those who were unlucky to get caught sharing it with someone. Oh well, it's easier to lobby exploitable laws and enforce draconian policies on both creators and consumers of your content than to make your service better for them. Cheaper: just let the state figure out the laws and carry out punishments.

I'm not sure if can make my point any clearer.

But sure, my opinion is completely invalid because I've mentioned Gabe and happen to agree with him.

If you take my sentence about you quoting Gabe as jumping down your throat I'll ask you to grow a backbone. I reference you quoting him because you're using his statement to back you up, I use the term "parrot" not as derogatory but since you're repeating what he said. Nor did I say I hate him or you so I don't see how I'm attacking you or him. I would address the rest of your post but you obviously think I'm biased against Gabe and you by association. Instead I'll just say this, lose the victim complex.

Kheapathic:
If you take my sentence about you quoting Gabe as jumping down your throat I'll ask you to grow a backbone. I reference you quoting him because you're using his statement to back you up, I use the term "parrot" not as derogatory but since you're repeating what he said. Nor did I say I hate him or you so I don't see how I'm attacking you or him. I would address the rest of your post but you obviously think I'm biased against Gabe and you by association. Instead I'll just say this, lose the victim complex.

It was a very productive discussion, thank you.

I'm avoiding the stupid low content bot so I should be able to stop padding the post just about now. Bit more just to be safe. Little bit more. And here we go.

Damn you edward kenway!

Not surprising. There is no legal way to watch the show in my country, yet everyone has seen it. HBO does not even know my country exists. Online streaming services do not allow acess here (some claim its because high piracy levels. well duh priacy will be high if thats the only option. Importing GOT DVDs across half of the world? Yeah, if you can spare half of years pay for that.

TV subscriptions are ridiculous, especially considering that almost all TV is translated via internet cables and just converted locally anyway nowadays. We should be buying show subscriptions, not channels and least of all channel packages. sorry, i cant spare 10% of my monthly wage for a 20 channel package if i only want to watch a single show. heck, dont make it proportionate, (because proportionate price would be that an episode would cost couple cents), make it cost half a dollar per episode, people will buy it anyway.

ALso, isnt it about time somone finally made a digital download shop for movies/TV? not everyone wants crappy steaming.

That's the thing though. HBO does not give any other way to watch episodes as they are current. There is no Season Pass like for other cable shows that just have you pay for it along the way. I would have no problem buying episodes on Itunes as I would want to watch them digitally anyways as well as having a hard copy. The seasons are only available the same day as the dvd release and you can't watch them on HBO Go without having HBO in the first place! Why not have a subscription fee like other sites? I pay for Netflix, Hulu, and CrunchyRoll. Mostly because I can never get a hold of the living room tv in the first place because of my busy life and my family always having it when I can be home. Netflix you have to pay for to use, Hulu you need to pay for if you want to watch on mobile devices and CrunchyRoll I pay for because I want the shows as soon as they come available instead of waiting a week and getting to watch shows only available to paying members. So long story short, if they make it available for a good price and offer something I want, I will buy. I say at most charge $15 dollars for a month of HBO GO for people who do not have a cable subscription to it already. And maybe offer a discount of buying a whole year of it which it only charges you as if it cost ten bucks a month while offering loyal members coupons for HBO products as well as special features.

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