Kojima Reveals Figurine Prototype of Metal Gear Solid V's Quiet

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The impracticality of her outfit has gone into parody territory. Why do i get the feeling Kojima is trollin' us on purpose when he picked the outfit.

Well, since they're making figurines, hey Kojima can you make this:

a figurine? and an unlockable outfit for snake. It's only fair~

@AzrealMaximillion
Dude, Buffy doesn't wear that outfit in the show and Joss Whedon didn't design the outfit. Bad example.

OT:
I assume she is not going to be moving a lot in the game considering her top is not supportive enough. That, or the top is superglued on her breasts. Totally curious to hear the explanation. "Yeah, she staples it on early in the game."

I like how people's defense of this basically amounts to "But-but-but MGS always had stupid female character designs! Therefore they're beyond reproach!"

As for the sexing up of Raiden and Snake - ummm, hello? Those are not their default get-up.

Reminds me of an old article by Yahtzee about how Kojima is totally fucking balls-out weird when it comes to women. This is the perfect representation of that. Now honestly, I'm not going to bitch about it, because it really just is Kojima's "thing", and I'm cynical so I don't think it'll make any difference to him. If the things I've heard about her skin being a natural octocamo are true though, that might lend a little credit to the guy however. Need to see when it comes out.

Oh, hey, look, pantsu. That's pretty hot, actually. But the tragedy is it still doesn't distract me enough to forget that you said you'd make a ZOE 3 when you were done with the last MGS game. Don't get me wrong, Revengece was, a nice side project. But, every time I say the name "Jehuty" it gets more and more obscure.

Even totally ignoring the objectification/sex appeal/whatever, that is a horrible character-design.

And even if she 'has a reason' for dressing up like that in universe, like having chameleon-powers, it changes nothing, because the writers decided to put that in. I highly doubt we'd see the End from MGS3, another sniper, or a character looking like him, dressing up like that...

The_Echo:
Holy shit, not you too, Escapist?

"Oh no, cleavage! Surely this is nothing more than masturbatory aid and a lazy design!"

Are we forgetting Sniper Wolf, EVA, the B&B Corps? And how can we forget the girls-only model viewer (complete with underwear/swimsuit variant) in Peace Walker? Quiet is by no means the only 'sexy' character in this franchise. Hell, even the males in this series are sexed up (Raiden, Vamp, Kaz Miller, Solid Snake's sculpted ass, Naked Snake); in other words, this is nothing new, and I feel the backlash on her design is just people hopping on the feminism bandwagon.

There is a purpose for her design (looking at the trailer, she might have chameleon powers). The model has confirmed as much and if you can't accept that maybe showing a little skin could be used for more than looking good, I'd say you need to chill the fuck out and stop being so reactionary.

I'm getting real sick of this "don't offend me!" bullshit.

OT: That figure doesn't look very good, prototype or otherwise. Then again, I guess Play Arts Kai hasn't been the best at what they do.

I really understand where you come from.

Me, I don't know who Quiet is going to be or what her place will be in the game. So I'm not going to be all 'holier than thou' and PC just because of what she's been seen wearing. Does it looks silly? Maybe (I think it does). Is it otaku-bait? Maybe. But were people actually expecting high class from Kojima? He's got quite a track record when it comes to this kind of thing. And who knows, he might surprise a few people.

Also yeah, that fig looks pretty shitty.

I'm not "ban-this-filth!" outraged by it, I don't think I've ever been, but this style of female character is getting really, *really* tedious...

Uhura:
I assume she is not going to be moving a lot in the game considering her top is not supportive enough. That, or the top is superglued on her breasts. Totally curious to hear the explanation. "Yeah, she staples it on early in the game."

don't suppose she will
I mean, everything I've seen about her has that big ass sniper rifle, and the trailer showed the skin on her face changing colors, so I'm betting that she will be doing recon and sniping, and not being a soldier running around doing shit like snake

Oh no! Bewwwwwwwbs!

*gasps...faints*

Seriously, that's the impression I'm getting from this thread.

Ok. So he's wanting the character to be sexy; fine, we've all seen that before in MGS games like with the B&B Squad, the Boss with her zipped down jumpsuit, etc. But an ill-fitting bikini that exposes under-boob? really? Hideo you really need to get laid more.

*looks up, see mostly naked female figure*

yup, that is certainly a thing.

Raiyan 1.0:
I like how people's defense of this basically amounts to "But-but-but MGS always had stupid female character designs! Therefore they're beyond reproach!"

As for the sexing up of Raiden and Snake - ummm, hello? Those are not their default get-up.

I like how it's not really a defense and more 'nothing to see here, move along.', least that's the vibe I've been getting from it.

Yeah so she looks like she walked off the set of a DoA game outfit wise, meh, *grabs and turns you toward many other games, then toward anime* explain to me why I should care again?

Besides, Riaden was but naked for most of MGS4 and pretty much all of MGR, when it wasn't a joke :p

Wait, they design and mold entire models for character protoypes?
No wonder it takes them so fucking long to make games.

I love how everyone is flipping out over the way Quiet is dressed but no one seemes to care about the fact that the game will have both child soilders and child slaves and juding by how the e3 trailer is shot, Big Boss may end up murdering some kids. Mind you I don´t particullarly like the way the developers have decided to dress Quiet.


Weaver:
Wait, they design and mold entire models for character protoypes?
No wonder it takes them so fucking long to make games.

It´s most likely just a prototype for one of those Play Arts Kai action figures that are usually released alongside the games.

Not "erotic" enough, time to go back to the drawing board. Maybe a C-String and some tassels instead of the bikini would finish it off?

This is so dumb. I love it!

The pantyhose really bothers me for some reason.

It looks like she is wearing the pantyhose underneath the panties, usually ain't it the other way around?

Ugh. Kojima, why do you drag down your great games with this shit?

Captcha: 'lose face'
Yeah, captcha.

Er...not working for me. I do play and enjoy the Dead or Alive series and I admit that a pretty or hot girl can catch my eye, but there's a line between alluring and too much. I think this design has crossed my line. Maybe if she was wearing a shirt. Then again, I loved Rikku's outfit in X-2, so I don't know.

I don't think people are as much offended as they are facepalming over how gosh darned stupid the design is, even by Kojima's standards.

Pedro The Hutt:
I don't think people are as much offended as they are facepalming over how gosh darned stupid the design is, even by Kojima's standards.

For me its not even that. I like a bit of t&a, even if the design is dumb. My problem is the attempt at justifying it. Just don't. He's not anywhere near skilled enough as a writer to manage it without looking like a douche.

Raiyan 1.0:
I like how people's defense of this basically amounts to "But-but-but MGS always had stupid female character designs! Therefore they're beyond reproach!"

Actually that's not it at all. It's "MGS has always been ridiculous and serious at the same time. If you think this is a problem, you're making a mountain out of a mole-hill."

If you don't like it, fine. Kojima originally wanted to have the Boss and the B&B corps naked. Would it have been fanservicey? Sure.

Yagami_Kira:

Pedro The Hutt:
I don't think people are as much offended as they are facepalming over how gosh darned stupid the design is, even by Kojima's standards.

For me its not even that. I like a bit of t&a, even if the design is dumb. My problem is the attempt at justifying it. Just don't. He's not anywhere near skilled enough as a writer to manage it without looking like a douche.

Kojima is not a skilled writer, that doesn't mean he can't justify it. War is fucked up, he constantly shows this, with a variety of things. Let the man write his ideas.

Frankster:

It looks like she is wearing the pantyhose underneath the panties, usually ain't it the other way around?

In Japan at least, there are differing styles.

Lovely Mixture:

Raiyan 1.0:
I like how people's defense of this basically amounts to "But-but-but MGS always had stupid female character designs! Therefore they're beyond reproach!"

Actually that's not it at all. It's "MGS has always been ridiculous and serious at the same time. If you think this is a problem, you're making a mountain out of a mole-hill."

If you don't like it, fine, but if you think it's a problem, do something productive. Kojima originally wanted to have the Boss and the B&B corps naked. Would it have been fanservicey? Sure.

Yagami_Kira:

Pedro The Hutt:
I don't think people are as much offended as they are facepalming over how gosh darned stupid the design is, even by Kojima's standards.

For me its not even that. I like a bit of t&a, even if the design is dumb. My problem is the attempt at justifying it. Just don't. He's not anywhere near skilled enough as a writer to manage it without looking like a douche.

Kojima is not a skilled writer, that doesn't mean he can't justify it. War is fucked up, he constantly shows this, with a variety of things. Let the man write his ideas.

Except every female he's ever written is a cliche broken bird that could be used as the trope picture on tvtropes because of how cliche they are. The only one even remotely stable is Eve. Just because kojima has a fetish for abused women doesn't mean he needs to subject the rest of the world with that crap.

gigastar:
Otaku bait. The term youre looking for is otaku bait.

And if theres an actual reason for her design, it had better be as big a shock as a stungun to the spine.

The reason for her design, and this just a guess based on what is saw in trailers, is because her skin is active camouflage. Much like Snake's OctoCamo.

Yagami_Kira:

Except every female he's ever written is a cliche broken bird that could be used as the trope picture on tvtropes because of how cliche they are. The only one even remotely stable is Eve. Just because kojima has a fetish for abused women doesn't mean he needs to subject the rest of the world with that crap.

Why? Cause you don't like it? What about those who do like it? Why can't artists, writers, and like MAKE fetishized characters? Why should they conform to an audience that doesn't like it?

He does the same thing for his male characters to. Yes, he uses abundant cliches, doesn't make it wrong. And yes, you can criticize it all you want, but it gets silly when you argue it shouldn't be allowed.

Lovely Mixture:

Yagami_Kira:

Except every female he's ever written is a cliche broken bird that could be used as the trope picture on tvtropes because of how cliche they are. The only one even remotely stable is Eve. Just because kojima has a fetish for abused women doesn't mean he needs to subject the rest of the world with that crap.

Why? Cause you don't like it? What about those who do like it? Why can't artists, writers, and like MAKE fetishized characters. Why should they conform to an audience that doesn't like it

He does the same thing for his male characters to. Yes, he uses abundant cliches, doesn't make it wrong.

Because glorifying and sexualizing abuse is wrong. It is always wrong. There is never a time when sexualizing abuse is good. And no, he doesn't do the same thing for his male characters. His female characters are all abused wank fodder. His male characters are all male power fantasy trips.

Yagami_Kira:

Because glorifying and sexualizing abuse is wrong. It is always wrong. There is never a time when sexualizing abuse is good.

Why? No one is being harmed.
So it's just wrong and should never be allowed because it makes you uncomfortable, and because there's a subset of small retarded human beings that think it justifies abuse?

For the rational minded people who find abuse to be sexy, what do you suggest?

You are on a forum for videogames, a medium under fire for "glorifying murder." Don't you see how silly your mode of thought it.

Yagami_Kira:

And no, he doesn't do the same thing for his male characters. His female characters are all abused wank fodder.

They are broken birds in different ways. They are sexualized as well, perhaps not as much, but they are sexualized.

Yagami_Kira:

His male characters are all male power fantasy trips.

Yes. Raiden, a character who was SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED BY A FEMALE FAN, is a male power fantasy trip.

Lovely Mixture:

Yagami_Kira:

Because glorifying and sexualizing abuse is wrong. It is always wrong. There is never a time when sexualizing abuse is good.

Why? No one is being harmed.
So it's just wrong and should never be allowed because it makes you uncomfortable, and because there's a subset of small retarded human beings that think it justifies abuse?

You are on a forum for videogames, a medium under fire for "glorifying murder." Don't you see how silly your mode of thought it.

Yagami_Kira:

And no, he doesn't do the same thing for his male characters. His female characters are all abused wank fodder.

They are broken birds in different ways. They are sexualized as well, perhaps not as much, but they are sexualized.

Yagami_Kira:

His male characters are all male power fantasy trips.

Yes. Raiden, a character who was SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED BY A FEMALE FAN, is a male power fantasy trip.

Raiden who could be drag and dropped into any anime as the male lead because he's generic japanese-standard anime strong male? Yes. He's a power fantasy in his culture. I'm not going to address the other points because frankly you disturb me that you don't think its wrong to portray abuse as something sexually desirable.

Yagami_Kira:

Raiden who could be drag and dropped into any anime as the male lead because he's generic japanese-standard anime strong male? Yes. He's a power fantasy in his culture.

He's a power fantasy sure. He's also meant to appeal to women.

Yagami_Kira:

I'm not going to address the other points because frankly you disturb me that you don't think its wrong to portray abuse as something sexually desirable.

Or you could address my points.

From your user name, I can see you like Death Note, a manga series that was criticized for glorifying murder. Why do you consider this ok and not sexual abuse? Cause sexual abuse is a special kind of evil? It's a double standard.

I don't think it's wrong to portray abuse as something sexually desirable because I firmly believe that art should have no boundaries as long as no one is hurt directly.

Lovely Mixture:

Yagami_Kira:

Raiden who could be drag and dropped into any anime as the male lead because he's generic japanese-standard anime strong male? Yes. He's a power fantasy in his culture.

He's a power fantasy sure. He's also meant to appeal to women.

Yagami_Kira:

I'm not going to address the other points because frankly you disturb me that you don't think its wrong to portray abuse as something sexually desirable.

Or you could address my points.

From your user name, I can see you like Death Note, a manga series that was criticized for glorifying murder. Why do you consider this ok and not sexual abuse? Cause sexual abuse is a special kind of evil? It's a double standard.

I don't think it's wrong to portray abuse as something sexually desirable because I firmly believe that art should have no boundaries as long as no one is hurt directly.

When someone is murdered, they're dead. When someone is abused they will carry that abuse with them their entire life. Glorifying and sexualizing abuse is loathsome and only one step removed from rapelay. And hiding behind "lolart" is just that. Hiding.

Yagami_Kira:

When someone is murdered, they're dead. When someone is abused they will carry that abuse with them their entire life.

And that person's relatives? They're going to carry that for the rest of their lives. Trigger warning is not an argument.

Yagami_Kira:

Glorifying and sexualizing abuse is loathsome and only one step removed from rapelay.

I could say the same thing about videogames, murder, warcrimes, etc. A statement is not an argument.

Yagami_Kira:

And hiding behind "lolart" is just that. Hiding.

How is it hiding? You can criticize art, advocating censorship is.....censorship

I'd spend the effort to create an argument for or against the design of this character, but i just saw Katie Perry mostly naked in a music video on tv.

i'm not objecting to the sexualization in general, but underboob and cleavage? sorry but that's just really impractical, it would just slip off all the time...

*sigh* Well thats just great, really makes perfect sense for a sniper guys...

Don't get me wrong I like revealing clothing as much as any heterosexual male, but I prefer for it to make sense in the context of the game, this is just doing it because "we can" (also was it really necessary to do both cleavage and underbreast?

I mean this is just pathetic pandering.... Great design, idiots...

You do know that characters can be wearing attire, that is both sexy and makes sense for their profession right?

Lunar Templar:
*looks up, see mostly naked female figure*

yup, that is certainly a thing.

Raiyan 1.0:
I like how people's defense of this basically amounts to "But-but-but MGS always had stupid female character designs! Therefore they're beyond reproach!"

As for the sexing up of Raiden and Snake - ummm, hello? Those are not their default get-up.

I like how it's not really a defense and more 'nothing to see here, move along.', least that's the vibe I've been getting from it.

Yeah so she looks like she walked off the set of a DoA game outfit wise, meh, *grabs and turns you toward many other games, then toward anime* explain to me why I should care again?

Besides, Riaden was but naked for most of MGS4 and pretty much all of MGR, when it wasn't a joke :p

Err, I'm not a fan of the Metal Gear series but wasn't Raiden at that point little more than a skull attached to a cyborg body?

As for you 'caring' some people don't like being pandered to along with anything that could be linked to Tropes vs Women (I forget what the full name of that silly series is called) of podcasts being instant flamebait on The Escapist.

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