Lucasfilm Makes It Official: Star Wars: Expanded Universe Is Dead

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Fans own SW, not the company. They will keep the EU alive because they believe in it.

Irridium:
I stopped caring back when they declared KOTOR 2 non-cannon.

One of the best (hell I'd say THE best) Star Wars stories and they handwave it away. What a damn waste.

That's news to me. The main character in that game was in the book leading up to TOR, and TOR itself has Madalorians that are allied to the Republic and follow the ideas set out by Mandalore the Preserver (AKA What Canderous Ordo became after KOTOR 1).

I am very glad that i am, at best, only a "casual" star wars user.

leviticusd:
And while there are some characters and plot-lines I hoped would survive, I don't feel any ownership, so I can let it go.

This is really that attitude that fans of every succesful franchise need to adopt if they don't want to go crazy. Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr.Who, Firefly, Marvel, DC, you name it... they're all going to arbitrarily rewrite canon as it suits them. The sooner you can cut your emotional attachment to properties owned and controlled by corporate entities, the healthier and happier you will be.

This doesn't mean you can't enjoy any or all of a franchise's core and/or spinoff products. It just means you need to be prepared to have the rug pulled out at any given moment. Go ahead and build your own head-canon and continuity. You're the boss of your own imagination.

Wait, you mean Ewoks is no longer canon?

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What about Lumpy and Malla, they'll be ok right? Right?

Oh wait, thank God I don't care. After the betrayal that was Episode 1 - 3 I really don't. I'm just hoping the new movies won't make me cringe as much. Oh and, really, bring back the Ewoks. They were cute.

Irridium:
I stopped caring back when they declared KOTOR 2 non-cannon.

One of the best (hell I'd say THE best) Star Wars stories and they handwave it away. What a damn waste.

I'll argue against KotOR 2's story another time, but I'm pretty sure it never got declared non-canon.

Oh shit! Thrawn, Corran Horn, Kyle Katarn, Revan and all the other good stuff is now gone!
Oh great! Force Zombies, The Force Unleashed, Legacy era, Karen Traviss' mandalorian stuff and all other shit is now gone!

I got mixed feelings towards this.

Irridium:
I stopped caring back when they declared KOTOR 2 non-cannon.

One of the best (hell I'd say THE best) Star Wars stories and they handwave it away. What a damn waste.

The latest eu attempts were to bring all questionable continuity back in with minimal changes. Even Black fleet crisis. Swtor considers kotor 2 cannon.

But if they do destroy the eu, I see no reason to buy any new novels or comicd. They're just more expensive fan fictions now.

I know what all of this is actually about but as a European all this talk about "the EU" being dead really makes me uncomfortable...

RealRT:
Oh shit! Thrawn, Corran Horn, Kyle Katarn, Revan and all the other good stuff is now gone!
Oh great! Force Zombies, The Force Unleashed, Legacy era, Karen Traviss' mandalorian stuff and all other shit is now gone!

I got mixed feelings towards this.

Ah, no, actually this only destroys the post ep 6 eu. Legacy is gone, but it doesn't necessarily effect things like the Force Unleashed :/.

I have to question the wisdom of this decision. Why would they purposefully risk alienating the fan base that have kept Star Wars alive?

Ukomba:
Legacy is gone, but it doesn't necessarily effect things like the Force Unleashed :/.

Lucas himself has said that Force Unleashed is part of the official canon.

Some of that EU stuff was stupid. But then other parts of it were really good (Kyle Katarn, Thrawn etc).

It's a bit overkill to destroy it all in one go. Instead they should take inspiration from the good parts of it.

Meh. The good stuff will always be better than the tripe JJ fucking Abrams is gonna shit out. Fuck him.

Well, the realities split after Luke Skywalker Prime traveled back in time, you see...

Let's face it. The "prequel trilogy" did a pretty mediocre job of linking itself to the "original trilogy" anyway. If you've continued to believe in a guiding hand that bound the Star Wars universe and all its related works into a completely coherent over-arcing vision in the face of that, I applaud you for managing to hold on to a child-like sense of wonder and suspension of disbelief.

I've seen some things in the EU that were kind of neat, and I've seen some that had me rolling my eyes for their one-upsmanship and/or failure to grasp what seemed to me to be fairly essential themes of the universe. (Grey Jedi?!) Overall, the official blessing or dismissal of the current owners of the franchise seems a rather abstract point to get contentious about right now.

Good-bye Jacen, Jaina, Anakin, Zekk, Tenel Ka, Raynar, Mara Jade, Kyle, Kyp, Wraith Squadron, Rogue Squadron, Allana, Ben, Tahiri, Vestara (before Ben had a chance to end you), and so many other characters that I grew up with.

I don't care if this was the logical thing. I don't care if everyone saw it coming. I don't care if it was impossible to get the EU to work with the new movies. And I don't care that some of these character will probably be reworked into the new universe. This still makes me sad and a little upset.

I KNEW Lucasfilm was run by a damn Sith!

But, seriously?
I hope they don't screw it up.

I LOVED books like 'I, Jedi', and would hate to have them ruin the new canon with Twilight level tripe.

Y'know, usually I go along with the reasoning that what the officially sanctioned writers say is the official canon no matter how much the more unreasonable fans bitch and moan about it. Case in point: Episodes 1-3. Like it or not, those are canon no matter how much the fans with their rose-coloured goggles whinge about it.*

But on the other hand, this effectively means there is no Kyle Katarn... unless they keep him in the new canon.

I'll still (somewhat begrudgingly) accept that these changes will now become official canon, but I really hope they keep Kyle Katarn.

Mind you, I figure that the past Extended Universe is now an alternate reality while its former place in canon is going to be taken up by whatever the Lucasfilm guys come up with. After all, fans will still have access to the EU materials, books, games, etc that have already been made.

I was so hoping they would keep Mara Jade. ::sigh:: Not that it actually matters, all this does IMHO is change EU to AU and I wasn't planning on acknowledging the new movies at all anyway.

Soooooo, who cares? SW has been raped so hard it's a miracle some old fans still believe it can actually be good. Let small children have fun with their lego sets and move on please.

Wow, that's so sad for SW fans.
I could care less about SW, but I'm a HUGE Halo fan, and it would be horrible for me if they did the same with the Halo EU.

nima55:
Well glad I wasted a bunch of my time. Now I know how Star Trek fans feel about their franchise on being two movies.

Amen. Is this how Indiana Jones fans felt after seeing "Crystal Skull"? Because that's how I feel right now. Also, HA HA...frak you,LucasFilm. If Episode VII isn't canon with the EU...then that's fine by me. I've thought about it, and calmed down a bunch by now. I'll definitely listen to reviews and I might see it if I hear it's good. I was REALLY angry about this at first, but think about this way: Lucasfilms and Disney can't tell the fan what Did and Did Not happen in the story. It's an alternate universe, so there'll probably similar elements in there somewhere. I want to have an open mind about this.

TWEWYFan:
Yeah! I mean what good has Expanded Universe ever given us? Except the Thrawn Trilogy... and the X-Wing series... and Dark Forces... suddenly I feel sad.

And Force Unleashed, which gave us a bridge for Ep. 3 & 4, and told us how the Rebellion came to be, and the KOTOR games, and I probably just made it worse... Sorry.

I like the EU novels. You've got a mix of good and bad stuff, but I'm a geek and I like Star Wars. What i'm not too keen on from this story is the bit about future works being linked to the official canon they're creating with the next trilogy. Call me crazy, but I'd rather not have my Star Wars books linked to what present-day Hollywood is capable of creating.

james.sponge:
Soooooo, who cares? SW has been raped so hard it's a miracle some old fans still believe it can actually be good. Let small children have fun with their lego sets and move on please.

I do, ya jerk. It IS actually still good, that's just your bitter mind refusing to see any good or give any of the new material a chance. I certainly am. I'm willing to keep an open mind, how about you?

008Zulu:
I have to question the wisdom of this decision. Why would they purposefully risk alienating the fan base that have kept Star Wars alive?

Ukomba:
Legacy is gone, but it doesn't necessarily effect things like the Force Unleashed :/.

Lucas himself has said that Force Unleashed is part of the official canon.

Lucas doesn't call the shots anymore and it was already stated that Rebel Alliance did NOT form the way it was shown to in TFU.

well, there's going to be a backlash of epic proportions with this. The Star Wars EU is GIGANTIC and has been going on for DECADES. I can't imagine how many people are going to lose their minds over this.

Sniper Team 4:
Good-bye Jacen, Jaina, Anakin, Zekk, Tenel Ka, Raynar, Mara Jade, Kyle, Kyp, Wraith Squadron, Rogue Squadron, Allana, Ben, Tahiri, Vestara (before Ben had a chance to end you), and so many other characters that I grew up with.

I don't care if this was the logical thing. I don't care if everyone saw it coming. I don't care if it was impossible to get the EU to work with the new movies. And I don't care that some of these character will probably be reworked into the new universe. This still makes me sad and a little upset.

I feel for you man. I really do. I've been there. I think just about every nerd who grows up cherishing some licensed property goes through this at some point or other in their lives. When the rights holders decide to hit the reset button, or change the series in some fundamental way, or the property just dies. And it's never easy to let go of something that was such a big part of your identity growing up. At least you still have the memories.

That's why I said "Thank God I don't care" I've been through that before, wouldn't want to do it again.

Eh, considering the divergent canon of J.J. Abram's Star Trek, I'm guessing from now they'll have the sequel trilogy and the EU set in alternate timelines from each other. They ARE going to produce more stuff for the EU, so honestly I think fans are overreacting.

I knew that the films were never going to copy itself after existing stories from the Star Wars EU, but I do expect them to pay homage to them.

Outside of a few video games I don't really have anything invested in the EU so I really don't care. Besides I figured this was what was going to happen anyway.

Gabanuka:
I really don't see why this is a big deal.

So what, the extra stuff no longer match to one official fictional history. It's no like the stories fade from existance, they still exist and are still great.

Hell most of the best DC comics are Elseworlds. All Star Superman, Red Son, Kingdom Come, etc

Except that now they're no better than fanfiction, they've been disavowed.

Ldude893:
They ARE going to produce more stuff for the EU, so honestly I think fans are overreacting.

Well, that announcement is really vague, but they don't say they'll be making more stuff for the EU. Just that "Demand for past tales of the Expanded Universe will keep them in print, presented under the new Legends banner." and "While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe." i.e. the old canon is dead, but stuff from it that the people on the committee like and that doesn't conflict with the new movies could be brought into the new canon. And they're going to reprint old, now non-canon EU stuff under a gaiden label.

Ldude893:
Eh, considering the divergent canon of J.J. Abram's Star Trek, I'm guessing from now they'll have the sequel trilogy and the EU set in alternate timelines from each other. They ARE going to produce more stuff for the EU, so honestly I think fans are overreacting.

I knew that the films were never going to copy itself after existing stories from the Star Wars EU, but I do expect them to pay homage to them.

Here the thing, when Abram rebooted Star Trek there was the admission that his entire series existed in a parallel reality, and that the rest of Star Trek was still canon.

This announcement didn't destroy the EU, the prequels did that, this was just salting the earth so no fandom would arise again.

The EU was a large part of childhood, more so than the films, I've since broken with the fandom and I'm not going back.
Abrams makes decent action films, fan worthy material is beyond his abilities.

I'm of two minds on this. There is some genuinely good material (Thrawn trilogy and X-Wing series come to mind) that happened between RotJ and the time period that Episode VII is taking place in. It'll be a shame if we end up losing all of it. On the other hand, I really dislike where things went later on (especially in the books after the Vong invasion), so it'll be nice getting the reset in for that.

Hopefully they'll at least do what Lucas did and cherry pick from the good stuff (Timothy Zahn was the one who named Coruscant in his books), and bring forward some of the more popular characters at least for cameo roles. It'd be a shame to lose the likes of Corran Horn and Kyle Katarn completely.

As a massive Star Wars fan all I can say is, "Thank God." Seriously, the vast majority of material in the EU (especially after the original trilogy) is so terrible, it hurt me sometimes to read about this stuff. Sure, we will miss some stuff, like Kyle Katarn, but that is the price I am willing to pay to make the Yuuzhon Vong never happen.

Eh, I honestly stopped giving a crap about what's "canon" and what isn't ever since Force Unleashed came out and was declared as the "official story" that would link the prequels and the original trilogy. In short, I stopped caring about what was canon when I realized that they'll just declare something canon knowing full-well that it will encourage people to buy it, regardless of the quality. You fooled me once, Lucasarts, it shall not happen again.

Also, isn't discarding pretty much the only thing that's kept your franchise relevant for all these years (because we sure as hell know it wasn't the prequels) smack of shooting oneself in the foot? This would be like if Blizzard released Warcraft 4 and said "by the way, all that stuff that happened in WoW? It wasn't canon, so none of it counts." There would be a god damn riot at their front door before they were even done with the press release.

what people are mising the fact that disney is setting up a new eu with a few books set to be realesed in this new eu a new eu where everything is on the same cannon level everything in the old cannon will be rebranded as starwars legends and the authors will take stuff from the legends part of it and feed it into the main eu

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