Ron Paul Will Make Acting Debut in Third Atlas Shrugged Movie

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Shamanic Rhythm:
Ugh. Can't this terrible book just fade into obscurity? If preaching an incredibly retarded view of economics wasn't enough, now it's going to launch the acting career of Grover Norquist.

MarsAtlas:

He's like a reverse Ronald Reagan! Reverse Reagan 2012!

"Mr Putin, put up that wall!"

The Nega-Reagen.

Witty Name Here:
da-snip

He never said to entertain all ideas as if they're equal. He said entertaining an idea without accepting it - the opposite of entertaining all ideas as equal - is intellectually speaking worth it.

super_mega_ultra:
I plan to see this movie, just like I have seen countless movies that aimed to prove a political or religious point. You troglodytes need to learn to control your emotions.

I'll leave you with a quote:

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

Troglodytes, man? Was that necessary?
Sure, the people overreacting here - I'm sorry Witty Name Here, but you kind of did overreact just now - need to simmer down a bit, but saying they're troglodytes isn't really needed and doesn't help carry your point across.

Witty Name Here:

super_mega_ultra:
I plan to see this movie, just like I have seen countless movies that aimed to prove a political or religious point. You troglodytes need to learn to control your emotions.

I'll leave you with a quote:

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

Oh great, quote from aristotle and referring to those who disagree as "troglodytes", going all out for the smug "holier than thou" attitude, eh?

Regardless, I've actually read the book, and since we're using quotes from dead people rather than forming our own opinions or "witty lines" it seems.

"This Is Not a Novel To Be Tossed Aside Lightly. It Should Be Thrown with Great Force" -- Dorothy Parker on Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.

The fact is the novel is utter garbage written by an aggravatingly hypocritical woman who's ideas have all the infuriating aspects of individualism mixed with an almost cult-like degree of collectivism. It has no sense of three dimensional characters and relies upon strawmen to get it's point across rather than standing on it's own merits. It's a piece of garbage, plain and simple.

While you can throw quotes from a bunch of dead Greeks around, the fact of the matter is that it's a sign of utter ignorance to entertain all ideas as if they're equal. I've had to deal with idiots claiming that vapors left behind by aircraft are really chemicals put there by the government to brainwash us into spending more.

I do not have to accept this idea or give it even the time of day to be "educated" by any stretch of the word. This smug "Mmmmm, the filthy peasants need to be taught how to civilized and refined chaps respond to garbage philosophies" attitude you've come in here with is overly hostile and hilariously immature.

Oh, no, I don't consider all ideas equal. If I had considered Ayn Rand as equal to other ideas, then I would have probably bothered to read one of her books (something I will probably never do because it's not worth my time). That quote by Aristotle hardly claims all ideas are equal, it just claims that it's beneficial to entertain an idea in your head without being consumed by it. If anything, it's an argument AGAINST the cult like behavior that some people display after having failed to just entertain an idea without accepting it as absolute truth.

To react with saying "This Is Not a Novel To Be Tossed Aside Lightly. It Should Be Thrown with Great Force" to a book that ultimately just contains words is something only a troglodyte would do. To become obsessed with things like communism, objectivism, anarchism, etc. after having read a book is the hallmark of a simple mind.

James Crook:

Witty Name Here:
da-snip

He never said to entertain all ideas as if they're equal. He said entertaining an idea without accepting it - the opposite of entertaining all ideas as equal - is intellectually speaking worth it.

super_mega_ultra:
I plan to see this movie, just like I have seen countless movies that aimed to prove a political or religious point. You troglodytes need to learn to control your emotions.

I'll leave you with a quote:

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

Troglodytes, man? Was that necessary?
Sure, the people overreacting here - I'm sorry Witty Name Here, but you kind of did overreact just now - need to simmer down a bit, but saying they're troglodytes isn't really needed and doesn't help carry your point across.

I wasn't saying that as an insult. I mean that they are actually behaving in a way similar to what is described here:

"a person characterized by reclusive habits or outmoded or reactionary attitudes"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troglodyte

The reactionary attitude is being angry at a book, something only a troglodyte would be.

The Gentleman:

Shamanic Rhythm:
Ugh. Can't this terrible book just fade into obscurity? If preaching an incredibly retarded view of economics wasn't enough, now it's going to launch the acting career of Grover Norquist.

Wow, kudos to you for knowing that such a thing exists! He's actually not awful (at standup).

Objectivism - The Scientology of Philosophies.

I doubt this will get a UK release, wasn't aware the first two had been made. If there are Ayn Rand sympathisers over here, they keep it to themselves out of shame.

Witty Name Here:

The fact is the novel is utter garbage written by an aggravatingly hypocritical woman who's ideas have all the infuriating aspects of individualism mixed with an almost cult-like degree of collectivism. It has no sense of three dimensional characters and relies upon strawmen to get it's point across rather than standing on it's own merits. It's a piece of garbage, plain and simple.

I think the Characters in "Atlas Twerked Shrugged" were literally 2-dimensional by design.

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Also, from what I heard from a friend who'd read most of the books, this is pretty accurate too.

Wait.. didn't the second part go straight too DVD?
I was pretty sure that the snore fest that was the first movie pretty much killed the franchise in its crib.
But nope, got Ron Paul on board, that'll get some libertarian butts in seats!

Wait... someone made part 2, let alone making part 3, after part 1 flopped?

Perhaps, if the public still reject Objectivism even after dramatisation in film, advocates of Objectivism should 'go Galt', find some secret region, invent some shield that hides them and live there as captains of industry till communism and socialism collapses.

Come on man! I said you were cool! I vouched for you, and you let me down!

I'm curious to see Sean hannity rant up a storm though, it's funny if nothing else.

kajinking:
Wait a second? They made the second one? I heard a little about the first at the time but this is literally the first I'm hearing about the 2nd one even exsisting. Was this a limited release thing?

Yeah, that was my first thought as well. I only remember the first, not that I went to see that either.

My second thought was 'so did they finance this by getting people to pay to be in it'?

Kickstarter, eh?

So was one of the rewards getting a part?

As someone who has reviewed the first two installments, I say bring it on. Might as well lose even more money and have even more people make fun of Libertarianism.

It still boggles my mind that this doorstop/brick/anchor/murder weapon of a book got a movie deal at all, let alone allowed to be completed. I kind of want to see bob rip this one up again (with a chainsaw). And having a kickstarted campaign to fund a movie about Objectivism? Doesn't that break some law of that philosophy, or something?
Anyway, for me the only cool Libertarians are Park & Rec's Ron Goddamn Swanson, and the drummer of RUSH, Neal Pert.

Raise your hand if you first thought Ayn "Sound I make when I'm pinching out a big fat stinky one" Rand was a dude.

THe book's not really TERRIBLE, at least not if you can get ppast the political agenda (or not be bought in/swayed by it) and take it as one of the more boring fictional dystopian future novels. Its at least made me want to read some of her other stuff, though none of it for the philosophy.

The sad thing is, I actually kinda wnate to watch these movies, even though I heard they're terrible. But knowing its going to have Hannity, Beck, and Paul in this now turns me off to the idea. Since all we're missing is Rush Limbaugh to have an onscreen "who can shove their head further up their ass" contest.

emeraldrafael:
The sad thing is, I actually kinda wnate to watch these movies, even though I heard they're terrible. But knowing its going to have Hannity, Beck, and Paul in this now turns me off to the idea. Since all we're missing is Rush Limbaugh to have an onscreen "who can shove their head further up their ass" contest.

Urgh, yeah.
I was actually wondering whether I'd see it myself when its cinematic run was over or it was shown on TV or something, but... well. I mean, having Paul or Norquist there is stupid. Having Beck there is utterly ridiculous. Having Hannity there is completely revolting.
Then again, this sounds just like the pseudo-Libertarian Tea Party nonsense so many on the far right Fox fringe are engaged in right now that it's really not surprising they'd bring their pundits in, too, the ones who sell the Bible-loving, authoritarian, big government version of what counts for Libertarianism, also.

Darth_Payn:
I kind of want to see bob rip this one up again (with a chainsaw).

It would have to be a slow week to tackle this ailing project that I wasn't aware existed until this thread came up. I am curious about Chipman's position on Objectivism. I have read that he's a libertarian, so he would have sympathies for the objectivist movement, wouldn't he?

PainInTheAssInternet:

Darth_Payn:
I kind of want to see bob rip this one up again (with a chainsaw).

It would have to be a slow week to tackle this ailing project that I wasn't aware existed until this thread came up. I am curious about Chipman's position on Objectivism. I have read that he's a libertarian, so he would have sympathies for the objectivist movement, wouldn't he?

Would make a decent Big Picture epsiode.

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