GTA V Star as Adult Swim's Black Jesus Draws Protests

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lacktheknack:

Riff Moonraker:
Boy, does the hypocrisy run deep here. Its a perfect representation of whats wrong in this country today. IF this was something that was offensive to muslims or gays, and someone was protesting THAT, then the very same folks in here ridiculing this, and cracking jokes at christianity in here, would be in full support of it, and condemning whatever the group was protesting. Yet, mark my words, people will fire right back with whatever silly reason they can justify as to how THIS is different, but its NOT. Muslims raise hell about stuff all the time that offends them, as does the NAACP, and the LGBT, etc. etc. I assure you that you will not come on this site and see any article about a protest from THOSE groups and see it ridiculed in this fashion. This is how the liberal left works. Its OK to support those other groups I mentioned, and trust me, they pull just as much bullshit and garbage as this million moms group... they are not any different in the fact that ALL of these groups feel the need to stand up for what they believe in. The left wing loons, however, will support any and everything in the world that offends any and every person in the world, except for straight christians. They are different, you see, and worthy of our condemnation. They inflict sufferage on others, and should be taught a lesson, humbled, and gotten rid of. It has reached levels of insanity in this country these days, and one way or another, its going to have to stop.

Except that we totally do deride Muslims who get upset about this stuff. So you're wrong. :/

I am glad you pointed that out, and is excellent to see. My point was that it should be a balance between all of them, and that link alleviates some of my concern, at least. Honestly, I think everyone needs to get thicker skin, even the subject of this article, my problem just stims from alot of bias you see running rampant in favor of some groups and not in favor of others. Which DOES exist, and shouldnt. Also, please note, that I am not saying that some things people protest or stand up against isnt worthy, per se, its just gone completely overboard and their IS an extreme amount of leeway given in these other groups that simply isnt allowed to Christians, and thats wrong.

IE People shouldnt be mistreated, or treated any differently, because of their gender, color, sex, sexual preference, or religion... or hell, because of their political preferences, either. Alot of these protests fall outside of this, and really can only be based on stupidity, and thats what I have a problem with. Treat them like South Park does, and leave no target untouched, or dont do it at all.

Oh, it's just One Million Moms? They're the queens of the knee-jerk objection anyway.

Adam Jensen:
Here's an idea. If their savior is real and if he has a problem with this, then let him take care of it. No need to get upset.

Sounds reasonable. Reminds me of a conversation from A Man For All Seasons:

"Well, there's no law against that."
"There is - God's law!"
"Then God can arrest him."

OT: Thanks for the mention, AFA. I look forward to watching this show myself.

Riff Moonraker:
Boy, does the hypocrisy run deep here. Its a perfect representation of whats wrong in this country today. IF this was something that was offensive to muslims or gays, and someone was protesting THAT, then the very same folks in here ridiculing this, and cracking jokes at christianity in here, would be in full support of it, and condemning whatever the group was protesting. Yet, mark my words, people will fire right back with whatever silly reason they can justify as to how THIS is different, but its NOT. Muslims raise hell about stuff all the time that offends them, as does the NAACP, and the LGBT, etc. etc. I assure you that you will not come on this site and see any article about a protest from THOSE groups and see it ridiculed in this fashion. This is how the liberal left works. Its OK to support those other groups I mentioned, and trust me, they pull just as much bullshit and garbage as this million moms group... they are not any different in the fact that ALL of these groups feel the need to stand up for what they believe in. The left wing loons, however, will support any and everything in the world that offends any and every person in the world, except for straight christians. They are different, you see, and worthy of our condemnation. They inflict sufferage on others, and should be taught a lesson, humbled, and gotten rid of. It has reached levels of insanity in this country these days, and one way or another, its going to have to stop.

I'll feel free to laugh at 1MM and any other group for trying to get things they don't like censored. I think anyone engaged in attempting to censor whatever they find offensive to be jerks. I support 1MM right to boycott, write in and have things changed, but I still think they are fools for doing it, just as I would with any group who makes it their personal prerogative to try and get other people to shut up. To me, if you don't like the message, don't watch/play/view the thing that offends you. And this isn't just the way the liberal left works either. The right engages in exactly the same hypocrisy as you're chastising the left for.

So, they have a problem because Jesus is portrait like someone with street creed or because he is black? Because their claim keep talking about "violence, gunfire, drugs...", and the trailer was pretty mild about it. Certainly have seen many parodies that could be considered worst:


Unless their real problem is that Jesus is black, to which I say: Get over it. If Jesus is an historical figure, chances are he was not the Caucasian guy with black, straight long hair and blue eyes...

Gorrath:

Riff Moonraker:
Boy, does the hypocrisy run deep here. Its a perfect representation of whats wrong in this country today. IF this was something that was offensive to muslims or gays, and someone was protesting THAT, then the very same folks in here ridiculing this, and cracking jokes at christianity in here, would be in full support of it, and condemning whatever the group was protesting. Yet, mark my words, people will fire right back with whatever silly reason they can justify as to how THIS is different, but its NOT. Muslims raise hell about stuff all the time that offends them, as does the NAACP, and the LGBT, etc. etc. I assure you that you will not come on this site and see any article about a protest from THOSE groups and see it ridiculed in this fashion. This is how the liberal left works. Its OK to support those other groups I mentioned, and trust me, they pull just as much bullshit and garbage as this million moms group... they are not any different in the fact that ALL of these groups feel the need to stand up for what they believe in. The left wing loons, however, will support any and everything in the world that offends any and every person in the world, except for straight christians. They are different, you see, and worthy of our condemnation. They inflict sufferage on others, and should be taught a lesson, humbled, and gotten rid of. It has reached levels of insanity in this country these days, and one way or another, its going to have to stop.

I'll feel free to laugh at 1MM and any other group for trying to get things they don't like censored. I think anyone engaged in attempting to censor whatever they find offensive to be jerks. I support 1MM right to boycott, write in and have things changed, but I still think they are fools for doing it, just as I would with any group who makes it their personal prerogative to try and get other people to shut up. To me, if you don't like the message, don't watch/play/view the thing that offends you. And this isn't just the way the liberal left works either. The right engages in exactly the same hypocrisy as you're chastising the left for.

You missed my point. I dont have a problem with you laughing at 1MM, specifically. So long as you, as per your own words, do the same with ANYONE "engaged in attempting to censor whatever they find offensive". If you do, then you are not whom I was targeting in my post. I also feel that ALL of these groups need to thicken their skin, and choose their battles with alot more intelligence than they seem to be applying. Yes, you are correct, the right does it too, and their are times I get extremely pissed off at them, too.

Everyone should do exactly what you said... don't watch/play/view the thing that offends you, and let that be the end of it. You know as good as I do that it won't happen, but that is how it should be.

I found that trailer very funny.

And this is coming from someone who believes in God as well (although that's the extent of my so called religion beliefs).

I'm Catholic. Not just "I go to Mass twice a year" Catholic, but "I sing and play piano for the choir, volunteer for events, and am really involved with my church" Catholic. And I wasn't offended by this trailer at all. It makes it pretty darn clear that he's not Jesus, and seems to be more an attack on people and human nature in general than on Christianity. I admit there's a chance the show could make me mad, but based on the trailer I'm not going to assume that it will.

P.S. Thanks

Riff Moonraker:

You missed my point. I dont have a problem with you laughing at 1MM, specifically. So long as you, as per your own words, do the same with ANYONE "engaged in attempting to censor whatever they find offensive". If you do, then you are not whom I was targeting in my post. I also feel that ALL of these groups need to thicken their skin, and choose their battles with alot more intelligence than they seem to be applying. Yes, you are correct, the right does it too, and their are times I get extremely pissed off at them, too.

Everyone should do exactly what you said... don't watch/play/view the thing that offends you, and let that be the end of it. You know as good as I do that it won't happen, but that is how it should be.

For clarity's sake, the reason I replied was that you seemed to imply that the Escapist community as a whole was hypocritical about this issue. As a member of the community, I felt the need to defend it by pointing out that I was not like what you described. It seems counter productive to say things like "The hypocrisy runs deep here," when you could point to a specific individual or individuals who engage in the behavior you describe and chastise them for the behavior.

Also, I'm glad you realize that people and media on the right and left both engage in this sort of practice. Far too often when people say "This is how the left/right operates," they believe that their own camp does not operate that way. Saying, "This is how the left operates," seems like a pointless accusation if you know full well the right is just as engaged in the same behavior.

It seems you and I essentially agree, I just feel that your original post was doing your own beliefs a disservice.

lacktheknack:

Riff Moonraker:
Boy, does the hypocrisy run deep here. Its a perfect representation of whats wrong in this country today. IF this was something that was offensive to muslims or gays, and someone was protesting THAT, then the very same folks in here ridiculing this, and cracking jokes at christianity in here, would be in full support of it, and condemning whatever the group was protesting. Yet, mark my words, people will fire right back with whatever silly reason they can justify as to how THIS is different, but its NOT. Muslims raise hell about stuff all the time that offends them, as does the NAACP, and the LGBT, etc. etc. I assure you that you will not come on this site and see any article about a protest from THOSE groups and see it ridiculed in this fashion. This is how the liberal left works. Its OK to support those other groups I mentioned, and trust me, they pull just as much bullshit and garbage as this million moms group... they are not any different in the fact that ALL of these groups feel the need to stand up for what they believe in. The left wing loons, however, will support any and everything in the world that offends any and every person in the world, except for straight christians. They are different, you see, and worthy of our condemnation. They inflict sufferage on others, and should be taught a lesson, humbled, and gotten rid of. It has reached levels of insanity in this country these days, and one way or another, its going to have to stop.

Except that we totally do deride Muslims who get upset about this stuff. So you're wrong. :/

Actually, most of the comments in that thread defended the Muslims' right to be offended, just disapproved of their method of dealing with it. Not exactly the case here.

Additionally, in the actual text of that article, the writer felt the need to temper even his light criticism of Islam with an account of a completely unrelated event that occurred 1500 miles away, a full week prior to the event he was actually writing about, just so he could imply, "See? But Christians are WAY worse."

Scorpid:
OH I actually came into this thinking that they were mad he was black but their actual issues is respectable. I know everyone here is going to be coming down on them for their history but the issue itself should be addressed first. Their name is still dishonest they do not have nor represent 1 million moms in their organization. Also I really don't see this character as being a literal Jesus Christ as Jesus Christ from the South Park cartoons is suppose to be but just a religious nut taking advantage of people but they don't call him anything else in the trailer here and the show is called Black Jesus so it makes sense if they assume he's suppose to be actual Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not just some random guy, he's the center of an entire religion and his teachings are what alot of people draw faith and solace from protecting his image/message is very important as they don't want him to end up like Santa of today vs the actual saint.

EDIT: I actually kind of hope they win this one. Jesus is more important to them than it is to me to laugh at.

one millions moms is a branch of the American Family Association who also run One Million Dads [source: http://afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31 ]. The AFA has itself been labled a hate group who's notable accusations include claiming that Nazi's were all homosexuals, thus the reason they killed those 6 million people [including homosexuals ironically], constant demonetization of LGBT peoples, and even media groups calling the AFA the "first step to a police state".

The AFA, OMM, and OMD are just a step below the Westboro Baptist Church in their hate spewing.

Then again, they are boycotting The Home Depot, so I guess they are doing some good.

PhiMed:

Actually, most of the comments in that thread defended the Muslims' right to be offended, just disapproved of their method of dealing with it. Not exactly the case here.

Additionally, in the actual text of that article, the writer felt the need to temper even his light criticism of Islam with an account of a completely unrelated event that occurred 1500 miles away, a full week prior to the event he was actually writing about, just so he could imply, "See? But Christians are WAY worse."

I'm not sure how you interpret "most" of the comments in the thread as defending the Muslims' right to be offended. Hell, the first page alone is almost universally against their stance. I guess we've a difference of interpretation, which includes the article itself. The whole point of him talking about the other event is because the two events were similar, not that Christians were "way worse". The whole point is that members of both religions are protesting media that they feel is offensive to their religious beliefs. How you think that he's saying the Christians are "way worse" when he specifically brings up how other Islamic protesters actually killed people* I don't know.

*Of course as it turned out those killings had nothing to do with the movie.

Kalezian:

Scorpid:
OH I actually came into this thinking that they were mad he was black but their actual issues is respectable. I know everyone here is going to be coming down on them for their history but the issue itself should be addressed first. Their name is still dishonest they do not have nor represent 1 million moms in their organization. Also I really don't see this character as being a literal Jesus Christ as Jesus Christ from the South Park cartoons is suppose to be but just a religious nut taking advantage of people but they don't call him anything else in the trailer here and the show is called Black Jesus so it makes sense if they assume he's suppose to be actual Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not just some random guy, he's the center of an entire religion and his teachings are what alot of people draw faith and solace from protecting his image/message is very important as they don't want him to end up like Santa of today vs the actual saint.

EDIT: I actually kind of hope they win this one. Jesus is more important to them than it is to me to laugh at.

one millions moms is a branch of the American Family Association who also run One Million Dads [source: http://afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31 ]. The AFA has itself been labled a hate group who's notable accusations include claiming that Nazi's were all homosexuals, thus the reason they killed those 6 million people [including homosexuals ironically], constant demonetization of LGBT peoples, and even media groups calling the AFA the "first step to a police state".

The AFA, OMM, and OMD are just a step below the Westboro Baptist Church in their hate spewing.

Then again, they are boycotting The Home Depot, so I guess they are doing some good.

Lol I Know what they are. In this one instance they have a point. They are still hypocrits and liars rest assured.

LOL, Someone in the comments section thinks they have a point :D
thats funnier than the trailer itself. Im sorry, but it is to me.

Anyway, so Black Jesus seems like an impostor, shame, it would be greater if he actually believed hes the son of god.
OR EVEN BETTER, in the last episode it is revealed that he is actually the son of god!!!

I'm not quite sure what the protest groups involved are trying to accomplish here.

I mean, it'd probably work better for them if they just ignored it, or, say, mocked the quality of the writing or something. "Ha! What an overdone joke. Tell us, is /all/ of it this formulaic?"

"violence, gunfire, drugs and other inappropriate gestures which completely misrepresent Jesus,"

Oh, come now, if you're going to complain about misrepresenting Jesus, you'd have to go after pretty much all of Christianity. Especially in cultures where they insist that Jesus would be for violence.

StormShaun:
This is a comedy.
This is not suppose to be taken seriously.

OMM (nomnomnom) and AFA are not known for their senses of humour.

Or a grip on reality.

Not G. Ivingname:

BUT, HE WAS WHITE.

If he wasn't, why is always shown as white in images drawn over a thousand years after he died, drawn by Italians, looking and dressing like an Italian of the time?

It's even worse because not only are they retroactively changing the race of a man, but also because white people are horrifically underrepresented on TV. When will white erasure stop?

Riff Moonraker:
IF this was something that was offensive to muslims or gays, and someone was protesting THAT, then the very same folks in here ridiculing this, and cracking jokes at christianity in here, would be in full support of it, and condemning whatever the group was protesting.

For that to be true, you'd have to ignore Family Guy and South Park (at the very least). Otherwise, it just turns into false equivalence.

Of course Jesus wasn't black.

Jesus, coming from the Middle East, was brown - just like the people the US is so fond of blowing up every once in a while.

Hmmm. I wonder, are they mad that they are making fun of jesus? Or because jesus is black .

There is no way in hell , jesus was a blond blue eyed white guy.

Scorpid:
In this one instance they have a point.

Which point is that again? The one where they complain about things Jesus doesn't do in the trailer, the one where they ignore the notion that he's not really Jesus, the one where they claim the programming block that runs reruns of Family Guy wouldn't mock other religions, or the one where they hypocritically go after someone else for "misrepresenting Jesus?"

Don't get me wrong. I support the right of protest and boycott, even if the people doing it are hypocritical assholes. I'm not saying they can't protest. I'm just wondering what, specifically, you're siding with them on. Because I am seriously not seeing a salient point here. Unless we're talking the most general: the right to protest. In which case, they have that right in every other instance, too.

1 Million Moms [there are no million] and AFA. Oh yeah that is the old and losing.

The culture in america is changing and these old bloaks don't like it. These old rusty people dislike the though that they can't kick others down just because they are rich and white.

Guess what.. you are on the wrong side AFA and 1MM. Time will wash you away. You will die out.. it already is happening.

RA92:
Of course Jesus wasn't black.

Jesus, coming from the Middle East, was brown

Exactly. And this is assuming he even existed.

There's no quantifiable evidence, beyond biblical ruminations, that he even existed. Many biblical and theological scholars will even attest to this. Many believe the character was simply a fabrication. Perhaps loosely based on one or more real-world spiritual leaders, but likely not on a singular real person. (and certainly not as he's portrayed)

So what we have here with this 1MM protest is a situation equivalent to a group of people getting bent out of shape because someone decided to write a comedy-based fan-fic of Harry Potter wherein Harry is black and studied in a school in the middle of Harlem instead of Hogwarts.

They're welcome to be upset about it. They've every right. But we also have the right to mercilessly mock them over it.

A FAMILY BASED(and probably religious) ORGANIZATION IS AGAINST A SATIRE OF JESUS CHRIST! In other news, humans breath air. Someone was bound to be offended by this. They turned that shitty joke on Family Guy into a REAL SHOW. Now this whole thread is going down the lines of atheist circle-jerk. I only hope that this show is at least better than the "atheist humor" that you see on reddit.

Are we all just going to ignore the fact that 1 Million Moms is protesting a show for adults? I thought the whole 1MM thing was for their children?

masticina:
1 Million Moms [there are no million] and AFA. Oh yeah that is the old and losing.

The culture in america is changing and these old bloaks don't like it. These old rusty people dislike the though that they can't kick others down just because they are rich and white.

Guess what.. you are on the wrong side AFA and 1MM. Time will wash you away. You will die out.. it already is happening.

Come to think of it, has OMM (nomnomnomnom) ever succeeded in changing anything?

The ones I remember they either failed or they got mocked/a deliberate "screw you" in the case of...What was it, JC Penny? Sears? I forget.

The only thing I think they've done is serve as a promotional tool for the companies that offend them.

Vigormortis:

There's no quantifiable evidence, beyond biblical ruminations, that he even existed. Many biblical and theological scholars will even attest to this. Many believe the character was simply a fabrication. Perhaps loosely based on one or more real-world spiritual leaders, but likely not on a singular real person. (and certainly not as he's portrayed)

It's interesting to me, because even if there was no mention of Jesus outside of the Bible, you'd think scholars and historians would have written something about the events that occurred. The Bible claims hundreds of witnesses to some of these claims, and while writing wasn't as commonplace, you'd think someone, somewhere would have found this noteworthy. Hell, you have zombie saints rising from the grave. You would think a zombie outbreak would have been mentioned somewhere.

So what we have here with this 1MM protest is a situation equivalent to a group of people getting bent out of shape because someone decided to write a comedy-based fan-fic of Harry Potter wherein Harry is black and studied in a school in the middle of Harlem instead of Hogwarts.

They're welcome to be upset about it. They've every right. But we also have the right to mercilessly mock them over it.

Hey hey hey....That's not fair. Harry Potter is based on real-life events! And Dumbledore was white!

valium:
Are we all just going to ignore the fact that 1 Million Moms is protesting a show for adults? I thought the whole 1MM thing was for their children?

In fairness, there's so much crazy in the story it's easy to forget that.

Zachary Amaranth:

masticina:
1 Million Moms [there are no million] and AFA. Oh yeah that is the old and losing.

The culture in america is changing and these old bloaks don't like it. These old rusty people dislike the though that they can't kick others down just because they are rich and white.

Guess what.. you are on the wrong side AFA and 1MM. Time will wash you away. You will die out.. it already is happening.

Come to think of it, has OMM (nomnomnomnom) ever succeeded in changing anything?

The ones I remember they either failed or they got mocked/a deliberate "screw you" in the case of...What was it, JC Penny? Sears? I forget.

The only thing I think they've done is serve as a promotional tool for the companies that offend them.

...

Hey hey hey....That's not fair. Harry Potter is based on real-life events! And Dumbledore was white!

Yup MM are just a vehicle that have little to do with actual mothers but it is one of those sham organisations that the rich white folk feel they need to raise ruckus. The old and rich oh how they fear what is coming their way.

If no one was raising a fuss over this, then we would.

krazykidd:
Hmmm. I wonder, are they mad that they are making fun of jesus? Or because jesus is black .

There is no way in hell , jesus was a blond blue eyed white guy.

thank you! i was about to start looking for a new forum thought everyone was buying into the reasons they gave for a minute reading the first page and a half of comments. personaly ive always found great sport annoying racist christians in pointing out MR J H Christ was actually a middle eastern jew and not Charleston Heston.

Zachary Amaranth:

Scorpid:
In this one instance they have a point.

Which point is that again? The one where they complain about things Jesus doesn't do in the trailer, the one where they ignore the notion that he's not really Jesus, the one where they claim the programming block that runs reruns of Family Guy wouldn't mock other religions, or the one where they hypocritically go after someone else for "misrepresenting Jesus?"

Don't get me wrong. I support the right of protest and boycott, even if the people doing it are hypocritical assholes. I'm not saying they can't protest. I'm just wondering what, specifically, you're siding with them on. Because I am seriously not seeing a salient point here. Unless we're talking the most general: the right to protest. In which case, they have that right in every other instance, too.

That Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior is being represented as a cartoon character almost. No Christian living today wants Jesus to become Santa Clausesque. In my first post I said it probably isn't Jesus Christ reborn but a dude taking advantage of people but that doesn't matter as they don't establish that point and the show is called Black Jesus so you can reasonably assume that it is indeed suppose to be Jesus Christ.

Holy shit, is that Young Maylay at 00:45?

Lamar and CJ together at last.

masticina:

Yup MM are just a vehicle that have little to do with actual mothers but it is one of those sham organisations that the rich white folk feel they need to raise ruckus. The old and rich oh how they fear what is coming their way.

Oh, I know they're full of crap, I just wondered if they've accomplished anything.

Ever.

Scorpid:

That Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior is being represented as a cartoon character almost. No Christian living today wants Jesus to become Santa Clausesque. In my first post I said it probably isn't Jesus Christ reborn but a dude taking advantage of people but that doesn't matter as they don't establish that point and the show is called Black Jesus so you can reasonably assume that it is indeed suppose to be Jesus Christ.

Only if you redefine "reasonably" to mean "ignoring all evidence to the contrary."

Granted, this is a very apt thing for a Christian hate group to do, but you're defending people who are either ill-informed or lying and saying that they have a point.

Is that Charlie Murphy and John Witherspoon in Black Jesus? They look like they barely aged.

I think the part is that they mention AS wouldn't dare mock any other religion.

Nobody else goes nuts like you idiots.

Wow... That just makes me want to watch this show even MORE... and I was already going to watch it regardless, given how the so-called "misrepresentation" of Jesus doesn't seem that much "misrepresented" so far... unless you want to get "technical", in which I choose not to think too deeply about right now...

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