Valve May Add Film and TV Series To Steam

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Did I have to pay several hundred bucks for unnecessary hardware that only does the things Steam tells it to? Nope. And that's why I'm okay with this development.

BTW, the most clogging I foresee on the storefront is like, a new "multimedia" button next to the "software" button.

There is a major difference between Valve's potential plans for Steam and Microsoft's initial XBone pitch on this.

Steam: A digital video game publisher that has always been about pushing games and now has some additional convenient multimedia features.

Xbone's initial pitch: A new console. Of what, you ask? Television, television, television, television, Big Brother Kinect, oh and here's some games.

The former's a potential prospect connected to a distribution platform that has already been proven to do what its consumers expect it to do.

The latter was a new piece of unproven hardware promoting just about everything but what the consumer wanted.

I'll reserve judgment, but Steam branching out is hardly the end of times from where I'm standing.

Karadalis:
Why does Steam want to go up against the likes of netflix? They can only loose...

Even worse yet... if they keep muddying the water (wich they have been agressively doing so with all the shovelware they keep cramming into steam every day) people just might throw their hands into the air and go to other places.

I heard origin is shaping up more and more... *shudders* not yet EA... not yet.

Netflix isn't even an option in many countries if you don't use a VPN.

Flammablezeus:

Karadalis:
Why does Steam want to go up against the likes of netflix? They can only loose...

Even worse yet... if they keep muddying the water (wich they have been agressively doing so with all the shovelware they keep cramming into steam every day) people just might throw their hands into the air and go to other places.

I heard origin is shaping up more and more... *shudders* not yet EA... not yet.

Netflix isn't even an option in many countries if you don't use a VPN.

Yeah but those countries have many different options available.

Germany has myvideo for example wich usually grabs what FOTM multi season series makes it across the ocean.

And heres the problem:

Movies and Series alike most often come with exclusive publishing deals for different countries. You can bet that France, England, Germany and Spain all have different publishers for breaking bad for example (TV media groups, internet services etc. usually 2), with exclusive deals to atleast for a time being the only people to be able to even air those bloody series/movies.

As for actuall movies: Why should the powerhouses of the industry actually give Steam a publishing license when they have been distributing their products directly to the consumer via DvD releases and such, cutting out the middleman? Allowing Steam to sell the newest "The hobbit" for example would cut into their own sales numbers wich they dont have to share the profit with steam.

So either now Steam will have a severely gutted library, will fill its movie and series library with stuff that either everyone allready has or no one wants to see anyways, or it will try to build a monopolistic structure of having the most exclusives and giving people less choice where to look for new series, driving even more people to piracy.

This isnt the games industry we are dealing with here... compared to the movie industry the games industry is a roadrunner of flexibility and we all know how slow they actually are to evolve according to the markets demands.

And if you think movies and series will just be another "button" with absolutely no frontpage advertisement youre sorely mistaken.

Why would you have such a huge feature and hide it behind a tiny button? Ofcourse you gonna advertise the shiznit out of it on your storefront... making the whole steam storefrond even more of a cluttered mess then it allready is... Steam is a mess currently ever since they added the "we dont give a shit" floodgates and becomes less and less enjoyable to use compared to its competition like GoG or even blasted Origin or heck.. even Gamestop

OH MY GOD! STEAM IS WORSE THE HITLER!

I will be happy if i can get music on steam, would be nice to get music somewhere i can trust.

As the others have asked. I wonder if steam is going to have sales and massive reductions. I'd love to get an entire show's run for just a few bucks. That would be killer.

AzrealMaximillion:
MS never removed their DRM. Not yet anyways. Individual companies took it upon themselves to remove it. Fallout 3 still has it (Bethesda being morons as usual when it comes to PC.)

FO3 has active DRM? How? My Steam version hasn't needed GFWL since FO3's most recent update almost a year ago. When I open the game from Steam I suppose you could call it DRM, but it's available in offline as well as just starting up outside of Steam...

Since I have full access while offline (with a legal unmodified version,) how exactly does that DRM work?

To be honest, I am rather positive about this.

First of all, I live in Russia, so it is impossible to use Netflix or a lot of other services. Before Steam it was really difficult to get a lot of games here in the area, so a lot of people had to resort to piracy (including myself). With steam you can get games now just by putting some change in to a terminal.

Just the situation with films seems a lot simmilar to what happened in Russia in the 90's with videogames. Perhaps if Gabe will make it as easy to get films and tv shows as he made it easier to get videogames, I would be rather happy.

As he said earlier, piracy is the result of poor service or lack of thereof. Valve makes a lot of money though Russia, so it is possible that they will do their best to bypass geoblocking.

I guess this is better than nothing.

PrinceOfShapeir:
If you got burned by early access the only person to blame is you, and if you bought shovelware, the same.

If Wal Mart sold broken fans and refused refunds, who would be to blame?

I just want Steam to be just about games, not software and now maybe movies. Now the front page will be cluttered with crap I don't care about, I just want to browse games, not movies and software taking up that space.

Make it a separate page if needed if you're gonna do that.

Meh.

If they handle it the way they handle their documentaries im all for it.

Karadalis:
Why does Steam want to go up against the likes of netflix? They can only loose...

going agaisnt who? those website that constantly throw "not avaialble in your country" signs and tell you to fuck off? yeah, there is ZERO competition here. NOONE is providing video streaming legally. Besides why would i want to stream netflix? their video quality is awful. Maybe if we do it the way steam did with its documentaries - downloading good quality video - then ill be buying.

j4c0b1:
They'll have to upgrade their servers if they want to compete with the other streaming services, download speed is pretty poor for steam at around 2/mbs, and I hear in the US and australia it can be even worse.

my download speed in steam is 16 times higher than that. are you sure its not your internet thats limiting?

Frostnatt:
It's not even that american Netflix is the best all the time. There are several of relatively new and big movies that are available in Europe but not i the USA.

I find this statement hilariuos considering that Ntflix isnt even available in europe beside a couple countries.

Steve the Pocket:
Because we sure didn't already have a service that you can use to buy movies and TV shows and download them over the Internet. Or two. Or three. No sir.

No, we did not.
The first one is not even a question because Itunes provide horrible service with horrible quality content (i mean low actual quality, not that i dont like the movie or anything) while houding it all with their useless DRM that breaks and does not let you watch you content.
Amazon instant video is very limited in the area available.
Google play store while available in europe has very few items in store. cant speak about thier download quality as i havent tried that yet.

And there's no way this could lead to further fragmentation of the market with more exclusivity deals that lock people out of content based on which service they prefer to use. Nope.

Content should be equal on all services, available worldwide. Pirates already do this, if you want to ever beat them you better do this or your just going to bleed money till death. Exclusivity deals should not even be legal.

Vrach:

I'm all for it. However, bandwidth IS a thing to be possibly concerned about, streaming content like this takes a lot of it and keeping it all together in one package is no small matter.

Steam eaisily uses traffic up to 1700gbps on a normal day, It does not budge on sales either when traffic increases. They have plenty of badnwith. And so does your ISP.

Also who talked about streaming. Downloads! We want quality content after all!.

Kyrian007:

AzrealMaximillion:
MS never removed their DRM. Not yet anyways. Individual companies took it upon themselves to remove it. Fallout 3 still has it (Bethesda being morons as usual when it comes to PC.)

FO3 has active DRM? How? My Steam version hasn't needed GFWL since FO3's most recent update almost a year ago. When I open the game from Steam I suppose you could call it DRM, but it's available in offline as well as just starting up outside of Steam...

Since I have full access while offline (with a legal unmodified version,) how exactly does that DRM work?

Check the Steam Page. Says GFWL is a requirement. You must have gotten rid of GFWL somehow. I know it's possible, but no GFWL is still in Fallout 3.

AzrealMaximillion:
Check the Steam Page. Says GFWL is a requirement. You must have gotten rid of GFWL somehow. I know it's possible, but no GFWL is still in Fallout 3.

I think the FO3 page is what Steam didn't change. It was a Steam update that disabled GFWL, I'll try to find it but there was an article here on the Escapist about it prior to the update. And I remember a few days after the article Steam updated FO3 and GFWL is no longer needed. I'll have to try it when I get home, but I'm pretty sure GFWL was removed from pretty much everything on Steam. I'll test it with the first Arkham game when I get home.

***Edit, for honesty.

Ok, I got home and tried Arkham and it still needed GFWL. Then I tried FO3 and it wouldn't launch. So as always when something messes up on Steam I verified the cache and was missing over a dozen files. After an update... FO 3 starts up, asks for my GFWL password, and refuses to accept the (what I thought was) valid password.

Wound up having to re-verify my live account and change the password, but managed to without losing saves. So my short lived FO 3 -GFWL was the result of a glitch after an update of my antivirus software. It does indeed still have GFWL, my mistake. This http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131031-Fallout-3-Set-to-Remove-Games-For-Windows-Live-Functionality is the article that made me think Steam had disabled GFWL. Just some odd timing.

Kyrian007:
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I'd also imagine if you were using FOSE you get around the DRM so it can add it's own modding API. You barely remember GWFL is there after launching fallout from FOSE. So that might've been what happened to you

OT: OH NOES STEAM HAS MORE CONTENT I'M NOT FORCED TO BUY. All is wrong and GabeN is evil! Burn him at the stake and demand reprehension for his crimes! The time of justice is nigh!
Oh? Valve aren't complete idiots and do what they did with software and add a "Movie" tab probably? Oh,then all is fair and we won't notice.

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