Did a Hyrule Warriors Art Book Reveal a Female Link? - Update

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endtherapture:
Gender bending accomplishes nothing. It wouldn't be a true strong or original female character because female Link would always be known as female Link. Do you not see the problem in that?

I think you're missing the point entirely.

Link isn't exactly an example of a strong or original character.
He's a blank slate for the (male) player to project themselves onto.

Making that blank slate a woman, or giving us the option to pick it's gender, would be a GIGANTIC step in terms of gender inclusivity.

Inclusivity, not having a strong female lead, is the point here, and gender bending accomplishes it perfectly.

Naqel:

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Gender bending accomplishes nothing. It wouldn't be a true strong or original female character because female Link would always be known as female Link. Do you not see the problem in that?

I think you're missing the point entirely.

Link isn't exactly an example of a strong or original character.
He's a blank slate for the (male) player to project themselves onto.

Making that blank slate a woman, or giving us the option to pick it's gender, would be a GIGANTIC step in terms of gender inclusivity.

Inclusivity, not having a strong female lead, is the point here, and gender bending accomplishes it perfectly.

Link looks fairly androgynous anyway. Giving him/her a feminine outfit and boobs is just going to alienate people.

Blue Ranger:
There is nothing saying that Ganondorf or Zelda need to be male or female, either. I don't mind a gender swap if they go all the way with it. Sure, have Link as a girl. But I'd like to see Ganondorf as a female, too, since I hate always seeing the villain as the male, especially when the hero is a girl, and make Zelda a boy.

Actually Ganondorf and Zelda need to be male and female.
In every game that stars Ganondord, it's literally the same Ganondorf from OoT.
In one timeline has sealed and breaks out in Twillight Princess, in another Link didn't arrive and the Goddesses had to flood Hyrule with Ganondorf in it and in the third one Link lost and Ganon(dorf) was sealed after many many causalities from the Knights of Hyrule defending the sages who were doing the sealing ceremony during the Imprisonment war (I hope this war gets to be played out in Hyrule Warriors).

So yeah, Ganondorf does have to be male from a story stand point. Unlike Link and Zelda, it's the same person in all games.

Zelda on the other hand needs to be female because only the female descendants of the first Zelda will have the power of the Goddess. The male descendants won't have it.

Which leave Link. While Link is not technically the same person in most games (few Links appear in several games), Link is Link. People see him as a single hero, Link. There is a reason why people recognize Link even with all the changes. He is an established character despite being a different character in every game.

Also please, Toon Link and SS Link have expressed more emotions and character with facial expressions and most character in gaming through 10 hour long cuteness. Link is, yet at the same time he isn't a blank slate. He is there to link the player with the world, but he isn't completely blank. He has his own character. Links aren't there for the player to selfinsert. They are there to link the player and the ingame world.

endtherapture:

Link looks fairly androgynous anyway. Giving him/her a feminine outfit and boobs is just going to alienate people.

If something as innocuous as a gender switch alienates someone, then they probably deserve to be alienated. Nintendo would likely be better off without such close-minded individuals in their fanbase.

EDIT: Furthermore, Link is an avatar, not a character. Making him female wouldn't change a thing about his personality, since there's no personality to change (Traits such as "courageous, and kind" hardly count as a personality and are far from gender exclusive). So why not? I say go for it.

Naqel:

endtherapture:
Gender bending accomplishes nothing. It wouldn't be a true strong or original female character because female Link would always be known as female Link. Do you not see the problem in that?

I think you're missing the point entirely.

Link isn't exactly an example of a strong or original character.
He's a blank slate for the (male) player to project themselves onto.

Making that blank slate a woman, or giving us the option to pick it's gender, would be a GIGANTIC step in terms of gender inclusivity.

Inclusivity, not having a strong female lead, is the point here, and gender bending accomplishes it perfectly.

No it wouldn't. It's nothing more than throwing scraps; you're saying a game can't be carried on the female herself but the name of the game. It's no different than putting a tone slider on a game and pretending like that's racial diversity. Nintendo know it'd be nothing more than cheap, lazy, and shallow so they don't bother with it. When they make female characters they make sure they stand on their own merits, not because they have some name brand cushioning.

Also, I find it hilarious how Ashcraft says giving Link a sister would be rewriting major lore...when in fact Link HAS HAD A SISTER BEFORE. Seriously, how did he forget Aryll? And that's before getting into the fact that Hyrule Warriors is non-canon thus rewriting lore is kinda the point. Oh well, can't expect much from Kotaku.

endtherapture:
Making Link female accomplishes nothing. Why can't we play as Tetra or Sheikh or Midna or one of the many strong female Zelda characters? Link has been male for over 20 years. He's known as Link, Link the blonde-haired guy in a green cap with a sword and shield. That's Link.

Gender-bending accomplishes nothing. It wouldn't be a true strong or original female character because female Link would always be known as female Link. Do you not see the problem in that? It's a very weak character. "Our female character is exactly the same a our male character but with feminine features."

I'm sorry, I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but I just don't get it. I'm not sure I buy that making Link female accomplishes nothing, but even if I grant that it did, my first instinct is to ask, "So what? Does making Link male accomplish anything? If so, what? And why does the choice have to accomplish something?"

I also think your second paragraph makes a lot of assumptions. As best I understand you--and please correct me if I'm wrong--you're arguing that the writing of the imaginary game we're talking about will have certain qualities that make Link indistinguishable from a male character, because otherwise your complaint about a male character with feminine features makes no sense to me. Why do you give the writers so little credit? I will grant without hesitation that the only Link I can think of who had any personality is the Hero of Wind, but it has happened once and can therefore happen again. Why can't there be a female Link who meets your standard of femininity in behavior?

And actually, while I'm on the topic, what is your standard of femininity in behavior?

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

Link looks fairly androgynous anyway. Giving him/her a feminine outfit and boobs is just going to alienate people.

If something as innocuous as a gender switch alienates someone, then they probably deserve to be alienated. Nintendo would likely be better off without such close-minded individuals in their fanbase.

EDIT: Furthermore, Link is an avatar, not a character. Making him female wouldn't change a thing about his personality, since there's no personality to change (Traits such as "courageous, and kind" hardly count as a personality and are far from gender exclusive). So why not? I say go for it.

The thing about Zelda games is that it's not just self aware people who play it. A large portion of the people buying Zelda games are impressionable kids. Like, 6-12 year old boys. These people aren't close-minded, they're simply children who want to play as a cool little warrior guy.

If Link is a woman they might not want to play that game and pass it up for something else in which they get to play as a guy.

Think of that mate.

endtherapture:

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

Link looks fairly androgynous anyway. Giving him/her a feminine outfit and boobs is just going to alienate people.

If something as innocuous as a gender switch alienates someone, then they probably deserve to be alienated. Nintendo would likely be better off without such close-minded individuals in their fanbase.

EDIT: Furthermore, Link is an avatar, not a character. Making him female wouldn't change a thing about his personality, since there's no personality to change (Traits such as "courageous, and kind" hardly count as a personality and are far from gender exclusive). So why not? I say go for it.

The thing about Zelda games is that it's not just self aware people who play it. A large portion of the people buying Zelda games are impressionable kids. Like, 6-12 year old boys. These people aren't close-minded, they're simply children who want to play as a cool little warrior guy.

If Link is a woman they might not want to play that game and pass it up for something else in which they get to play as a guy.

Think of that mate.

Their loss? Those boys need to learn, sooner rather than later, that women not only exist, but that they can do just as much as men. Their parents should be teaching them that. Who knows, if they make Link a female, it might even help give them a better perception of women in general.

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

Mcoffey:

If something as innocuous as a gender switch alienates someone, then they probably deserve to be alienated. Nintendo would likely be better off without such close-minded individuals in their fanbase.

EDIT: Furthermore, Link is an avatar, not a character. Making him female wouldn't change a thing about his personality, since there's no personality to change (Traits such as "courageous, and kind" hardly count as a personality and are far from gender exclusive). So why not? I say go for it.

The thing about Zelda games is that it's not just self aware people who play it. A large portion of the people buying Zelda games are impressionable kids. Like, 6-12 year old boys. These people aren't close-minded, they're simply children who want to play as a cool little warrior guy.

If Link is a woman they might not want to play that game and pass it up for something else in which they get to play as a guy.

Think of that mate.

Their loss? Those boys need to learn, sooner rather than later, that women not only exist, but that they can do just as much as men. Their parents should be teaching them that. Who knows, if they make Link a female, it might even help give them a better perception of women in general.

Sorry but being an 8 year old boy wanting to play as a male hero in a game is not contributing to sexism lol, oh damn these social justice warriors are crazy. Next you will be telling me Link being a male is a construct of the patriarchy meant to promote misogyny.

endtherapture:

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

The thing about Zelda games is that it's not just self aware people who play it. A large portion of the people buying Zelda games are impressionable kids. Like, 6-12 year old boys. These people aren't close-minded, they're simply children who want to play as a cool little warrior guy.

If Link is a woman they might not want to play that game and pass it up for something else in which they get to play as a guy.

Think of that mate.

Their loss? Those boys need to learn, sooner rather than later, that women not only exist, but that they can do just as much as men. Their parents should be teaching them that. Who knows, if they make Link a female, it might even help give them a better perception of women in general.

Sorry but being an 8 year old boy wanting to play as a male hero in a game is not contributing to sexism lol, oh damn these social justice warriors are crazy. Next you will be telling me Link being a male is a construct of the patriarchy meant to promote misogyny.

Nope, just that if male heroes are the only thing children are exposed to, then they'll likely conclude only males can be heroes.

But then you're putting words in my mouth and using the stupid person term of choice, "social justice warrior", so those concepts will probably go right over your head. Oh well.

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

Mcoffey:

Their loss? Those boys need to learn, sooner rather than later, that women not only exist, but that they can do just as much as men. Their parents should be teaching them that. Who knows, if they make Link a female, it might even help give them a better perception of women in general.

Sorry but being an 8 year old boy wanting to play as a male hero in a game is not contributing to sexism lol, oh damn these social justice warriors are crazy. Next you will be telling me Link being a male is a construct of the patriarchy meant to promote misogyny.

Nope, just that if male heroes are the only thing children are exposed to, then they'll likely conclude only males can be heroes.

But then you're putting words in my mouth and using the stupid person term of choice, "social justice warrior", so those concepts will probably go right over your head. Oh well.

All I have is three words to say to you:

Sheikh, Tetra, Midna.

Young Zelda fans know the strength of female characters and their heroics.

endtherapture:

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

Sorry but being an 8 year old boy wanting to play as a male hero in a game is not contributing to sexism lol, oh damn these social justice warriors are crazy. Next you will be telling me Link being a male is a construct of the patriarchy meant to promote misogyny.

Nope, just that if male heroes are the only thing children are exposed to, then they'll likely conclude only males can be heroes.

But then you're putting words in my mouth and using the stupid person term of choice, "social justice warrior", so those concepts will probably go right over your head. Oh well.

All I have is three words to say to you:

Sheikh, Tetra, Midna.

Young Zelda fans know the strength of female characters and their heroics.

Then what's one more going to hurt?

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

Mcoffey:

Nope, just that if male heroes are the only thing children are exposed to, then they'll likely conclude only males can be heroes.

But then you're putting words in my mouth and using the stupid person term of choice, "social justice warrior", so those concepts will probably go right over your head. Oh well.

All I have is three words to say to you:

Sheikh, Tetra, Midna.

Young Zelda fans know the strength of female characters and their heroics.

Then what's one more going to hurt?

Because then we have no prominent male characters who aren't a villain?

endtherapture:

Mcoffey:

endtherapture:

All I have is three words to say to you:

Sheikh, Tetra, Midna.

Young Zelda fans know the strength of female characters and their heroics.

Then what's one more going to hurt?

Because then we have no prominent male characters who aren't a villain?

This time, maybe (And that's a big maybe, to assume there wont be any supporting characters that are male). If so, then the other Zeldas and the other games released at the time will still star male protagonists.

endtherapture:
Because then we have no prominent male characters who aren't a villain?

As opposed to having no female characters who are protagonists?

She's probably just left over from some kind of player config. You know, so you can pick playing as a man or woman. Otherwise I feel like she would be, I dunno, MORE different than just Link with a figure and a girly walk.

Because Link already has those anyway.

endtherapture:

The thing about Zelda games is that it's not just self aware people who play it. A large portion of the people buying Zelda games are impressionable kids. Like, 6-12 year old boys. These people aren't close-minded, they're simply children who want to play as a cool little warrior guy.

If Link is a woman they might not want to play that game and pass it up for something else in which they get to play as a guy.

Think of that mate.

Why is it okay to have a male character that may alienate female players but hell be payed if we alienate any male players?

Blue Ranger:

There is nothing saying that Ganondorf or Zelda need to be male or female, either. I don't mind a gender swap if they go all the way with it. Sure, have Link as a girl. But I'd like to see Ganondorf as a female, too, since I hate always seeing the villain as the male, especially when the hero is a girl, and make Zelda a boy.

Though you can't gender swap Ganondorf a few games have had female villains such as Veran. Ganon is still in the game but not as a character more as a summoned minion of destruction.

I'd buy that as DLC.

All cower before the might of Linkle's ABSOLUTE TERRITORY!

Redryhno:

RJ 17:
How about a double-swap? If they do make a FemLink, it'd only make sense to make Prince Zelda. :P

Maybe, and I know that's meant mainly as a joke, but again, it's just the shifting of genitals when they've already got perfectly good characters with established crotches.

They came up with that bigass timeline and reality bending sheet a few years ago, having one game where Link dies because he hit a cucco followed by tarring,feathering, and unceremoniously being thrown off a cliff forcing her to go find the 8 pieces of the shattered Triforce of Courage to send to the next hero/keep away from Ganon and his similarly named reality twins cannot be that hard to think up.

Adventure Time did it and everyone celebrated it. You know what? I'm all for it. Gender swap everyone. Make Rinkuru as FemLink and a beefy space marine as Sam Aran.

I think it would be a good idea to have a female co-protagonist (or the option of a female protagonist) in a Zelda game. Not because of inclusion of female demographics or political correctness, but to expand a little more the gameplay and add a little more variety to the usual Zelda plot.

RJ 17:
Didn't...didn't we already go over all this when that teaser trailer got everyone all jinned up in the first place? Wasn't Nintendo's official line "Link has always had more effeminate features so no, that's not a FemLink. For that matter, who said that was Link in that teaser in the first place?" Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the gaming world turn on end at the concept of one of THE most well-known characters in gaming suddenly getting gender-swapped - and I actually think the publicity it'd give Nintendo, considering the progressive mindset of (what seems to be) the majority of the gaming market, would be very good - because if nothing else it shows that Nintendo is up for mixing things up.

But yeah, I won't hold my breath until they officially announce "FEMLINK HAS ARRIVED!" As such, that art-book (in my opinion) either depicts a particularly effeminate Link, a completely different character (perhaps the one seen in that teaser trailer that got everyone talking in the first place), or as someone else already mentioned: perhaps it's an alternate costume for Zelda herself.

Well, we now know that neither case was true for this image, but I think we could have ruled out "effeminate Link" because "Link" has breasts in the upper-right pics. I know Link is "effeminate," but I've never seen him with breasts before.

CaitSeith:
I think it would be a good idea to have a female co-protagonist (or the option of a female protagonist) in a Zelda game. Not because of inclusion of female demographics or political correctness, but to expand a little more the gameplay and add a little more variety to the usual Zelda plot.

I'm not sure how a selectable female protagonist or "co-protagonist" affords any gameplay expansion or variety.

Zachary Amaranth:

CaitSeith:
I think it would be a good idea to have a female co-protagonist (or the option of a female protagonist) in a Zelda game. Not because of inclusion of female demographics or political correctness, but to expand a little more the gameplay and add a little more variety to the usual Zelda plot.

I'm not sure how a selectable female protagonist or "co-protagonist" affords any gameplay expansion or variety.

Similar to the way Link transformed into a wolf in Twilight Princess. Yes, it was still Link; but still it worked like a switch of characters. The look was different, and so the gameplay. In some parts you were restricted to play as a wolf, and later you gained control of the transformation. A similar aproach can be done (not by transforming Link into a girl, but passing the baton to his sister at some point, and later make her a switchable character).

It may work, but we will never know if they don't try.

CaitSeith:

Similar to the way Link transformed into a wolf in Twilight Princess. Yes, it was still Link; but still it worked like a switch of characters. The look was different, and so the gameplay. In some parts you were restricted to play as a wolf, and later you gained control of the transformation. A similar aproach can be done (not by transforming Link into a girl, but passing the baton to his sister at some point, and later make her a switchable character).

It may work, but we will never know if they don't try.

I'm still lost. Do girls play different? Do they have different mechanics? Is Zelda run on the FATAL engine? Will there be a lot of adventures in the girls' room?

You started from the premise that adding a girl or just a selectable gender protagonist would be mechanically different, but nothing you're saying has anything to do with gender inherently. I mean, hell, since you're complaining about "political correctness," why not add a second dude you can play as? You could give him different mechanics (unless, again, mechanics are gender locked somehow).

I really hope they are going to do a gender-flipped Link. If only just to change things up a little, but also because it would be really damn cool.

I keep thinking this, Legend of Zelda is really kind of the perfect game series to do gender-flipped characters, race-changed characters or even alternate character alignments. I've always interpreted LoZ as a series of legends with recurring characters that they can make vastly different to each other. Example, how crazy would it be if Man!Zelda used a warhammer instead of the rapier she's been depicted with in previous iterations? What if Fem!Link didn't start out the game in the forest or a ranch or whatever but instead was a cleric to one of the three Goddesses of the Triforce? What if Ganondorf was originally the staunch ally of Zelda's father driven to evil by the king's favoritism toward, say, the Sheikah while the Gerudo are basically reduced to second-class citizens seen as thieves and spies? You can do a lot of cool alternate character interpretation with LoZ and I think Nintendo's starting to see the potential.

I don't see a problem in a female version of link, though it's confirmed that is not a thing at this point. That said, Link has always been an androgynous character. They are the players "link" to the game world. Square Enix does a similar thing with their characters for a long time now. Yoshitaka Amano is one of the most famous Japanese artists in the business, and he purposely makes his characters androgynous so it's easier for the onlooker to project themselves into the epic scenes depicted in things like Vampire Hunter D, regardless of their sex.

I think a female "Link" and a male "Zelda" would be a very interesting twist in the franchise. The optimistic side of me would love to see a difference in the development of the characters as a result of such a swap. Also, something to think about, guys, gender and sex are not exactly the same things, though it is often treated as such in colloquial conversation. Gender identity and gender roles are not necessarily tied to being male or female in today's society (and in some cultures, there's actually more than 2 gender identities). Once you do a little reading on transgender (not transsexual; those are two different things) and gender fluidity (which is something I didn't learn about until fairly recently myself), your view of gender and male vs. female roles becomes a bit more generalized (assuming you're willing to have an open mind).

Personally, I would be interested to see how the mix of masculine and feminine would play out for a female heroic "Link" and a male damsel-in-distress "Zelda". Of course, since we are talking about game developers, I'm sure they would just fuck it up.

EDIT: added reference to "gender fluidity".

CaitSeith:

Similar to the way Link transformed into a wolf in Twilight Princess. Yes, it was still Link; but still it worked like a switch of characters. The look was different, and so the gameplay. In some parts you were restricted to play as a wolf, and later you gained control of the transformation. A similar aproach can be done (not by transforming Link into a girl, but passing the baton to his sister at some point, and later make her a switchable character).

It may work, but we will never know if they don't try.

Or just look at all the other games that have had dual character systems where each one has a different set of skills. Such as Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin. Maybe he has a companion who has abilities he can't use. Or just look at Spirit Tracks where Zelda was vital in the gameplay.

I quite like what I see here, but wasn't it confirmed that link would be guy a for the next game?
Well in any case I'd be interested in seeing a female link in the one after.

Zachary Amaranth:

CaitSeith:

Similar to the way Link transformed into a wolf in Twilight Princess. Yes, it was still Link; but still it worked like a switch of characters. The look was different, and so the gameplay. In some parts you were restricted to play as a wolf, and later you gained control of the transformation. A similar aproach can be done (not by transforming Link into a girl, but passing the baton to his sister at some point, and later make her a switchable character).

It may work, but we will never know if they don't try.

I'm still lost. Do girls play different? Do they have different mechanics? Is Zelda run on the FATAL engine? Will there be a lot of adventures in the girls' room?

You started from the premise that adding a girl or just a selectable gender protagonist would be mechanically different, but nothing you're saying has anything to do with gender inherently. I mean, hell, since you're complaining about "political correctness," why not add a second dude you can play as? You could give him different mechanics (unless, again, mechanics are gender locked somehow).

You are right. Different gender doesn't inherently involve different mechanics (just look at the first Resident Evil). However nothing stop them from having a different gender characters with different mechanics (properly explained in the plot). We are talking about a new Zelda game; not taking an existing one and just jamming a playable female protagonist in it as if it was a DLC.

I`m not complaining about the (Attack of the) Political Correctness. Just stating that I'd like to see that kind of feature in Zelda, because there is no reason for not to (neither plot-wise, gameplay-wise or budgetary) except for the developer's ideas.

Why not a male character? Personal opinion. I think a playable girl character related to Link (like a sister) has more potential for an interesting plot than a male one (like a brother or cousin) in Zelda.

It would make sense to see a female link at some point since Link is the hero of time and and none of the Links (save for a few) had anything to do with the previous incarnation.

CaitSeith:

Why not a male character? Personal opinion. I think a playable girl character related to Link (like a sister) has more potential for an interesting plot than a male one (like a brother or cousin) in Zelda.

I fail to see how there's any more interesting story to tell than if it's a playable boy character related to Link. Would a female PC offer up a more interesting story than a black male PC? Or a gay male PC? Would a black lesbian PC offer up more opportunity than any of the previous? What makes a girl inherently more interesting as a story piece, especially in a game generally known for its blank slate protagonists?

You're offering the same thing up that those horrid PC/diversity people offer up. You're just trying to dress it up (possibly even in a dress) to distinguish yourself from them. And it's a fairly hollow distinction.

The only actual reason you gave was that there's no reason not to. I agree. However, at that point, what difference does it make if it's so girls have something to play, or for the sake of "diversity?" Especially if you can't offer a single positive reason to do so otherwise? Hell, at that point, "personal preference" might as well BE "diversity."

...Wait, so we could of had Legend of Zelda: Nier edition?

God fucking damnit, I would SO buy the hell out of that. And hell, they could of done the same thing as Nier did: make two versions with the Japanese release feature younger Link and have female Link be his little sister, while the western release has Papa Link and his daughter.

-sighs-

Oh well, back to Drakengard 3.

Zachary Amaranth:

CaitSeith:

Why not a male character? Personal opinion. I think a playable girl character related to Link (like a sister) has more potential for an interesting plot than a male one (like a brother or cousin) in Zelda.

I fail to see how there's any more interesting story to tell than if it's a playable boy character related to Link. Would a female PC offer up a more interesting story than a black male PC? Or a gay male PC? Would a black lesbian PC offer up more opportunity than any of the previous? What makes a girl inherently more interesting as a story piece, especially in a game generally known for its blank slate protagonists?

You're offering the same thing up that those horrid PC/diversity people offer up. You're just trying to dress it up (possibly even in a dress) to distinguish yourself from them. And it's a fairly hollow distinction.

The only actual reason you gave was that there's no reason not to. I agree. However, at that point, what difference does it make if it's so girls have something to play, or for the sake of "diversity?" Especially if you can't offer a single positive reason to do so otherwise? Hell, at that point, "personal preference" might as well BE "diversity."

A lot of my old favorite games from 80's and 90's that share the same world style than Zelda have female playable co-protagonist. The plot wouldn't had been the same if the gender of those characters hasn't been female (not without changing the way the worlds in those games were made). That's why, if Link ever had a playable co-protagonist for the sake of the plot, that would be my personal preference.

If "just for diversity" were my preference, probably Hyrule Warriors would be enough for me.

Fairly Chaotic:

Redryhno:

RJ 17:
How about a double-swap? If they do make a FemLink, it'd only make sense to make Prince Zelda. :P

Maybe, and I know that's meant mainly as a joke, but again, it's just the shifting of genitals when they've already got perfectly good characters with established crotches.

They came up with that bigass timeline and reality bending sheet a few years ago, having one game where Link dies because he hit a cucco followed by tarring,feathering, and unceremoniously being thrown off a cliff forcing her to go find the 8 pieces of the shattered Triforce of Courage to send to the next hero/keep away from Ganon and his similarly named reality twins cannot be that hard to think up.

Adventure Time did it and everyone celebrated it. You know what? I'm all for it. Gender swap everyone. Make Rinkuru as FemLink and a beefy space marine as Sam Aran.

In adventure time it was presented as a parody of bad fan fiction, which it practically was.

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