Report: Destiny's First Two DLC Are Already (Partially) on The Disc

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Report: Destiny's First Two DLC Are Already (Partially) on The Disc

A bug has allowed a Destiny player to discover that content from its upcoming DLC packs already exists in the game.

Destiny players who are thirsty for new content may be interested to know that content from its first two upcoming DLC packs already partially exists on the game's retail disc. A bug has allowed reddit user KilledByDice to access a map filled with inaccessible content, which is apparently planned for Destiny's upcoming DLC packs: The Dark Below and The House of Wolves. Check it out to the right.

While this is far from proof that the entire DLC is merely "Disc-Locked Content," some of the strikes and areas shown as part of the upcoming DLC are areas that players have reportedly been able to glitch into and explore since the game's Alpha.

KilledByDice reports that some of the areas, such as the Jovian Complex and Kings Watch, have had enemies in them since the beta, and Kings watch even has a fully functioning mini-boss.

We have reached out to Bungie for comment on this story, and to confirm to what extent Destiny's upcoming DLC already exists on the retail disc.

Source: reddit

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Well, they're just saving Americans bandwidth against their caps. It's a totally consumer-oriented decision and in no way locking off already developed content to sell later.

So a multimedia product produced by the now-soulless shell of a once great developer, published by a company that actually talked of increasing their product prices by ten to twenty dollars because "they can", with a production cost in excess of half a billion dollars, ends up committing one of the more egregious DLC 'sins'?

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I swear, it's as if Bungie is going out of their way to find reasons for me to be happy they didn't bother bringing the game to PC.

Thanks Bungie! Never before have I ever been so happy you decided to give PC gamers the finger. Please, do continue to avoid offering your software to us.

It just sucks that these companies are getting better at hiding this crap. I'd have never bought this half-finished game if I knew there was locked content that could've made it a more complete experience. It's looking like the first Bungie game I've owned might be the last.

I've always been for Day 1 DLC, but never on-disc.
Definitely trading it in for Halo now.

I bet they'll say "Nah, it was going to be free all along!"

Vigormortis:

I swear, it's as if Bungie is going out of their way to find reasons for me to be happy they didn't bother bringing the game to PC.

Thanks Bungie! Never before have I ever been so happy you decided to give PC gamers the finger. Please, do continue to avoid offering your software to us.

Imagine what would happen if they did, I can already see the expected results anyway, even if they did I know exactly what to expect and VGCharts would tell one half and PC Gamer the other, I don't need another shitty story/spin from PC Gamer, they already lost me with articles like "PC gamers have to fight for PC gaming, and Metal Gear Solid V is a big win", I could imagine almost the same type if Destiny or Halo were released, if it turned out crap we know how the general treatment would go.

It's either gloat or decry, there's not much pleasing that crowd unless another crowd is crushed on purpose for their satisfaction, sure you'll tell me it's not like that but I see otherwise and have done for years, my eyes do not lie.

A map itself does not make content nor does it mean they are doing anything underhanded. And all the discovered hidden content does not mean shit. Allot of it could be unfinished or cut content that is common to be found in games when you look under the hood. Since that's console and from Reddit nobody is looking under the hood but making guesses for clicks.

@abo ve poster, Stereotype much? Try to start flame wars much?

JET1971:

@abo ve poster, Stereotype much? Try to start flame wars much?

There's that thing called quoting please learn to use it properly, also no there are no stereotypes in what I've seen, to call them that may as well be calling them non existent people but they very much do exist and no I am not trying to start a flame war, unless of course that's the new polite form of saying "shut up you can't say anything ill", hell other users on here have done perfect jobs of starting their own little flame wars without even trying to hide the snide, let me ask you, are you trying to start something with me?, do you think it will get anywhere by doing so?.

Of course this won't change something. We already know many people will buy the DLC.
Also why we make so big deal the existing DLC in the Disc?
Maybe in the past I a had problem myself, and of course this isn't technically a DLC, but if the publisher want to sell it separate from the main game, so be it. Don't buy.
But, of course, they will buy them.

JET1971:
A map itself does not make content nor does it mean they are doing anything underhanded. And all the discovered hidden content does not mean shit. Allot of it could be unfinished or cut content that is common to be found in games when you look under the hood. Since that's console and from Reddit nobody is looking under the hood but making guesses for clicks.

I'd be inclined to agree with you but the missions it shows appear to reference the DLC names directly.

I dont mind them drip-feeding the story via DLCs, nor do I mind it already being on the disc. What I do mind is when they charge considerable amounts of money for it on top of an already pricey game.

Thing is, I know Ill end up buying it just so I can get some more enjoyment out of Destiny. Getting bored of replaying the missions now.

Seeing as it is not even complete content, I'm not really in a position to complain. Evidently, it is not just a bunch of perfectly functional content that is arbitrarily hidden behind a paywall. It's not like there's say, an entire extra class already on the disc. And at any rate, I imagine at least some of this content is meant to facilitate multiplayer between individuals who have the expansions, and those than don't. I mean, there are going to be new weapons and stuff, right?

If its half finished then that's pretty normal for stuff like that to happen. As long as its not completed content then I don't mind too much. Hope the dlc is free though.

This is not as bad as it seems...
This shit is all about balancing it out perfectly and bug fixing.

Just some maps and enemies is *indeed* only part of a much larger experience that needs to be up to scratch.

While I am normally the first to hate on disc locked content, in this case -of an MMO- it is just not that simple as having some stuff local... The server is where everything happens, not the disc.

As much as i'd love to jump on the hate wagon, there's no way to get into the game unless you're connected to the internet and, more importantly, fully updated.

Feel free to get back to me when there's proof it's actually on the disc, not in one of the many patches since launch or even entirely server-side at the moment.

Guys, look how much of a mess Destiny is. This isn't on disk content that they parcelled off for DLC, this is the remnants of the huge wreck of a game which they probably ripped apart and tried to piece back together as something new after finding out what they originally made was unplayable.

Every sign in the game points to a horrific production disaster. They've got crud loads of lore, yet no way to tell the story in game, there's so many features that must have taken a lot of work to make yet don't fit into the game at all. There's cutscenes that go nowhere and do nothing.

I bet there will be super cynical DLC for this (it is Activision), but I don't believe the production team behind Destiny was competent enough to have DLC finished before launch. I bet the DLC will be as much a mess as the game was

The game is build as a cash cow. From the few reviews, I've seen, the foundations of future dlc content were already in the game. Some hard assets in the mix doesn't change the situation much.
At this point, I don't see the devs/pubs even trying to lie to us about all this content being developed before the release and even cut from the games.

So what I got from this was that I really want the Destiny season pass. That and I apparently have a different definition of "on disk DLC" then the internet pitchfork mob.

I'd guess that it's simply a matter of time constraints forced them to stop developing said content, and they decided rather than scrap it entirely they could pad it out and release their intended content as DLC.

Look, it's clearly not finished on disc DLC, so I can give them the benefit of the doubt here.

Meh, I'm withholding judgement. There are some things about Destiny that annoy me, but frankly I have too much fun playing it. PVP and Strikes are a ton of fun. Achieving a Gold Ranking on Public Events feels like a real accomplishment which you really can't do without others. Upgrading gear and abilities has a noticeable affect. And the various class abilities do feel different.

Just waiting for my buddy to get his PS4 and join me.

Oh I just love how all these over-hyped mega-games always come crashing back down within a couple weeks as people find out that not only are they not everything they're hyped up to be, but in many case they are indeed just a nice shiny piece of crap. Oh sure, it might have a nice luster that catches the light just right when you place it on your window sill, but it's still stinking up the house.

To a certain extent this always happens, have to leave hooks in the code for the DLC idea to work, it will reuse animations and AI behavior etc since it has to work with the rest of the game.

*Smashes face into desk* I really shouldn't be surprised. Bungie just isn't what they used to be. I mean I like Destiny, but it just doesn't compare to their other work.

Also Activision.

I just want everyone to remember that, once upon a time, Bungie was a legitimately great gamer-first developer with the inspiring policy that every ounce of DLC they created would, with time, be free for everyone to play with and enjoy because they rightly stated doing so grows a community and gives all players the chance to enjoy all parts of the game if they're patient enough.

And now they're gating off content as locked on-disc "DLC".

It is that moment that you, well and truly, realize that Bungie is no longer "gamer-first".

I'd question the sanity of anyone surprised by this. (or at least, anyone whose first AAA game isn't Destiny)
Destiny cost half a billion to produce.
HALF A BILLION. That's INSANE. That's insane even by Hollywood standards.

The DLC was inevitable. Doesn't mean anyone has to like it, but frankly, I'd have been STUNNED if Bungie didn't pre-load DLC onto the disc just to save themselves the cost of hosting and traffic.

Given said insane cost and the modus operandi behind Destiny's design (grind-grind-grind-grind...), if you're looking to get the complete experience, well, "Better bend over and grab your ankles, and prepare to have your horizons expanded".

Vigormortis:
So a multimedia product produced by the now-soulless shell of a once great developer, published by a company that actually talked of increasing their product prices by ten to twenty dollars because "they can", with a production cost in excess of half a billion dollars, ends up committing one of the more egregious DLC 'sins'?

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I swear, it's as if Bungie is going out of their way to find reasons for me to be happy they didn't bother bringing the game to PC.

Thanks Bungie! Never before have I ever been so happy you decided to give PC gamers the finger. Please, do continue to avoid offering your software to us.

trust me, you aren't missing anything at all that no other game has ever done.

Hell, I'm just sitting here shooting at a black hole gettin... ERROR CODE: CATTLE -disconnects-

SweetShark:
Of course this won't change something. We already know many people will buy the DLC.
Also why we make so big deal the existing DLC in the Disc?
Maybe in the past I a had problem myself, and of course this isn't technically a DLC, but if the publisher want to sell it separate from the main game, so be it. Don't buy.
But, of course, they will buy them.

We make a big deal of it because originally, DLC was supposed to be added on/in later, as optional, expanded content for people that loved the game. Not something they sliced out of the game at the start and then sold us again, saying it was new content. When stuff shows up on the disc already like this, it's clear that it could have been left in the full game but was taken out to nickel and dime people.

Yeah, Destiny cost 500 million to make, but it also sold like a crack covered unicorn crapping gold dust.

You know, I really enjoy this game. I like the gameplay, I like the characters and the set up.

But beating the story took almost no time. I have maxed out all the content and anything I do now will be retreading the same water.

They seriously dwarfed the game. Most people beat the game on accident and are like, "... did we just beat the game"? I literally heard someone on my wife's team say that when she beat the game. They had no idea that that was it.

All I can do now is just grind some armor. But what's the point? I enjoy the game for the story but the story is done. What the hell?

just want to point out that this game is more like a MMO and anyone who played wow before knows that there were expansion files on the original game that weren't used till wrath at the earliest(a few didn't make it in to cata).

this is not an uncommon thing to happen so chill they are not screwing you they are just saving time and money leave assets they may use on the disk.

Man I hope almost no one buys the dlc. This game is so short already and the dlc isn't even any new maps and still costs $35-$40!!! Screw them I hope this game crashes and burns. If its a hit everyone will pull this crap.

ecoho:
just want to point out that this game is more like a MMO and anyone who played wow before knows that there were expansion files on the original game that weren't used till wrath at the earliest(a few didn't make it in to cata).

this is not an uncommon thing to happen so chill they are not screwing you they are just saving time and money leave assets they may use on the disk.

Exactly. People really need to relax and stop jumping the gun when phrases like "Disc-Locked content" are used. Unlike what the morality systems in video games nowadays preach, it's not always black and white in the real world, there are many shades of grey in there too.

Now if the content on the disc was entirely complete and there were no real reason for it to be locked off other than to charge even more; then the anger would be completely justified, but since it's not people need to calm down.

As it is now I just want to run the new strikes and raids I see in the video just to see how they look and play.

Vigormortis:
So a multimedia product produced by the now-soulless shell of a once great developer, published by a company that actually talked of increasing their product prices by ten to twenty dollars because "they can", with a production cost in excess of half a billion dollars, ends up committing one of the more egregious DLC 'sins'?

I swear, it's as if Bungie is going out of their way to find reasons for me to be happy they didn't bother bringing the game to PC.

Thanks Bungie! Never before have I ever been so happy you decided to give PC gamers the finger. Please, do continue to avoid offering your software to us.

if it had been put on pc at release, they would have found this stuff like several hours afterwards

ecoho:
just want to point out that this game is more like a MMO and anyone who played wow before knows that there were expansion files on the original game that weren't used till wrath at the earliest(a few didn't make it in to cata).

this is not an uncommon thing to happen so chill they are not screwing you they are just saving time and money leave assets they may use on the disk.

Vanilla WoW had a huge world to explore. I played WoW in beta and day 1.

This isn't the same. The content on disk for Destiny isn't a full game. It's barely worth playing for two weeks straight. I'm out of content already and I haven't played it as frequently as I normally would due to some house work I've had to do over that past month.

It isn't a full game. I mean, it's really short and they rely too much on multiplayer being a compelling experience.

I don't mind if they have dlc on a disc already as long as the game itself is substantial enough that im satisfied with it. usually you can tell if they're trying to fuck you or not.

BrotherRool:
Guys, look how much of a mess Destiny is. This isn't on disk content that they parcelled off for DLC, this is the remnants of the huge wreck of a game which they probably ripped apart and tried to piece back together as something new after finding out what they originally made was unplayable.

Every sign in the game points to a horrific production disaster. They've got crud loads of lore, yet no way to tell the story in game, there's so many features that must have taken a lot of work to make yet don't fit into the game at all. There's cutscenes that go nowhere and do nothing.

I bet there will be super cynical DLC for this (it is Activision), but I don't believe the production team behind Destiny was competent enough to have DLC finished before launch. I bet the DLC will be as much a mess as the game was

I don't think it has to do much with incompetent production teams as much as it has to do with Activision. Bungie signed a 10 year agreement with them for this IP and the scope of this game was fucking huge. I personally think a much more realistic scenario is that Bungie had all of the DLC content in progress and were working on implementing it into the final product but because of time constraints (They had already pushed it back once) and because Activision was riding their ass trying to get this game out, they had to cut it and release it as DLC.

I guarantee that if Destiny would have been pushed back to 2015 and Bungie had been given more time to implement all of the content that they had planned, Destiny would have been a much better off game. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case, and the only one we have to blame is Activision.

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