Hackers Claim Credit for Destiny, CoD Crash

Hackers Claim Credit for Destiny, CoD Crash

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"Woah, I think there are some Ghosts haunting Destiny," Tweets Lizard Squad.

If you were among those who got booted from Destiny's servers this weekend, you may have hacking group Lizard Squad to thank. The problem has since been resolved, but for a while there "Lost Connection to partner service" kept people from their beloved Dinklebot.

The attack took place late Sunday evening, West Coast time. The problem didn't affect all users - an Australian player reported no difficulty logging on - and was resolved quickly. Call of Duty: Ghosts servers were also briefly affected, as were EA's Madden, FIFA and Sims 4.

Lizard Squad's the same bunch that hit Sony with DDoS attacks recently, as well as making a bomb threat that diverted Sony Online Entertainment President John Smedley's plane mid-flight. Smedley has continued to be a Lizard Squad target since that incident.

That said, it may not be the same Lizard Squad, or at least not the same people. Describing itself as "just a bunch of guys with too much free time," Lizard Squad announced it was disbanding after the FBI caught some of its members. "We have lives believe it or not, things to do, people to meet," it said. "Goodbye."

Perhaps it ought to have been au revoir.

Source: Forbes

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That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

I wouldn't call these people gamers, I'd call them idiots. Remember, these are the same people who called in bomb threats on the Sony executive's plane, and apparently the President of SCEO is still being targeted. No these guys aren't as gamers, they're sociopaths who just want to shit on other people's day.

Can we stop calling DDOS groups "HACKERS" it gives them way to much credit, its like calling a common thug a "gangster" or "mobster".

Neronium:

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

I wouldn't call these people gamers, I'd call them idiots. Remember, these are the same people who called in bomb threats on the Sony executive's plane, and apparently the President of SCEO is still being targeted. No these guys aren't as gamers, they're sociopaths who just want to shit on other people's day.

You can't throw people out from a label just because you don't like them. I mean they are gamers, they're within the community, as much as we don't want to admit it.

erttheking:

You can't throw people out from a label just because you don't like them. I mean they are gamers, they're within the community, as much as we don't want to admit it.

I'm not meaning to throw them out, and I'm sorry if it seems that way. But gamer isn't the only correct word to describe them, the correct one at this point due to the bomb threats now is terrorist. Doesn't help with the negative connotation that the word "gamer" seems to have with people nowadays either.

Neronium:

erttheking:

You can't throw people out from a label just because you don't like them. I mean they are gamers, they're within the community, as much as we don't want to admit it.

I'm not meaning to throw them out, and I'm sorry if it seems that way. But gamer isn't the only correct word to describe them, the correct one that this point due to the bomb threats now is terrorist. Doesn't help with the negative connotation that the word "gamer" seems to have with people nowadays either.

Hm. Didn't think of it from that angle. Fair enough. I was thinking of it from a "gamers doing things to gamers" perspective.

...why? Seriously, why? They gain nothing from this, it only annoys innocent people, it's not some big political or anti corporate thing, and they must know they'll get in trouble for it. Why would they do this? I don't understand.

Gearhead mk2:
...why? Seriously, why? They gain nothing from this, it only annoys innocent people, it's not some big political or anti corporate thing, and they must know they'll get in trouble for it. Why would they do this? I don't understand.

Bully mentality.
Because it makes others mad, and because they can.

So, in my 3 1/2 hours of TV time Sunday, there was a DDOS attack on Sony. Huh. Well, good thing I'm not all hardcore else this might've been an inconvenience. As a proponent for removing all negative connotations the "gamer" label implies, these idiots stand firmly outside the group if their idea of fun is to ruin it for everyone around them. I'm as far from a basement-dwelling, 4-chan and darknet-lurking overweight troglodyte but I suspect that these representatives for humanity might fit that description rather precisely.

They have lives, believe it or not?

I'll choose to believe they have no lives. Tools.

erttheking:

Neronium:

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

I wouldn't call these people gamers, I'd call them idiots. Remember, these are the same people who called in bomb threats on the Sony executive's plane, and apparently the President of SCEO is still being targeted. No these guys aren't as gamers, they're sociopaths who just want to shit on other people's day.

You can't throw people out from a label just because you don't like them. I mean they are gamers, they're within the community, as much as we don't want to admit it.

The thing is, a majority of them are probably not even gamers. This is something people who write code do in their spare time (***disclaimer*** I am not saying all coders are DDOsers)

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

As one of those people kicked from Destiny I can assure you I didn't miss out on any fun. I've played the game more than 10 hrs.

I don't see what they gain from this. I was playing, in the middle of the weekly strike when I was kicked out. I was lucky I could log back in, in no time, but had to restart the entire instance.

DDoS hackers are like children that wipe their shit all over the wall and then look to you for a complement.

Most DDoSers are barely more than script kiddies, it's mostly bullies trying to annoy people whose gaming tastes don't please them. You're free to think Origin users or Sims 4 players are sheeple, but actually spoiling someone else's fun for no tangible reason doesn't make a hacker out of you.

Hackers would've done the same thing - but then they would've published their findings online or would have contacted Sony, Activision and EA to help them up their security game.

erttheking:

You can't throw people out from a label just because you don't like them. I mean they are gamers, they're within the community, as much as we don't want to admit it.

I think they're the opposite of gamers by this point. Not only are they not playing games, they're actively stopping others from playing them as well. I vote to call them "Annoying Pricks" as the official term. Because they're Annoying Pricks.

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

#notallgamers, man, #notallgamers.

I can't believe you didn't include that!

xitel:

I think they're the opposite of gamers by this point. Not only are they not playing games, they're actively stopping others from playing them as well. I vote to call them "Annoying Pricks" as the official term. Because they're Annoying Pricks.

In my experience, they are gamers. Usually gamers who are pissed off at something. I wouldn't be shocked if Lizard Squad were angry gamers lashing out, given their targets. I mean, I'd wait for evidence they were, but I also wouldn't preclude them because they weren't gaming at that moment.

Eliam_Dar:
I don't see what they gain from this. I was playing, in the middle of the weekly strike when I was kicked out. I was lucky I could log back in, in no time, but had to restart the entire instance.

Often times, just pissing people off is its own reward for some people. Maybe even everyone. I've never DDOSed anyone, but I admit I've had a few moments of schadenfreude in gaming. Usually just outdoing someone who's being a dick or out-performing someone who's trash talking, but still. Some people just like to lash out entirely. Taking down the servers for big multiplayer games and then seeing the reactions? Gotta be a bunch of people who get their jollies off that.

Calling someone a hacker for using a DDos script is like calling me a mechanic because I know how to add washer fluid to my car.

synobal:
Can we stop calling DDOS groups "HACKERS" it gives them way to much credit, its like calling a common thug a "gangster" or "mobster".

What label might you suggest?

sleeky01:

synobal:
Can we stop calling DDOS groups "HACKERS" it gives them way to much credit, its like calling a common thug a "gangster" or "mobster".

What label might you suggest?

Script kiddies seems to fit best since all they are doing is injecting code into a system to crash it. What they are not doing is brute force hacking their way into the system infrastructure to inflict damage to the system or extracting info from it.

That explains why I got suddenly booted last night and couldn't get back on. At least I wasn't in a Strike or PvP match. Just doing some minor things to upgrade gear to break down for parts while searching for materials and such. Still annoying.

synobal:
Can we stop calling DDOS groups "HACKERS" it gives them way to much credit, its like calling a common thug a "gangster" or "mobster".

I am in 100% agreement to this. Downloading a DDOS program and hacking a system are two entirely different world's. You aren't FOX news you don't need to misinform people.

These people want attention, can we please stop giving it to them. I know that they took down 3 online games (BF4), but do something else in the mean time, play another game or something.

Gearhead mk2:
...why? Seriously, why? They gain nothing from this, it only annoys innocent people, it's not some big political or anti corporate thing, and they must know they'll get in trouble for it. Why would they do this? I don't understand.

Does this really need to be explained?

I don't see the point besides really, really boring trolls too unimaginative to piss someone off with proper wordplay.

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

these people may or may not be gamers. you dont have to be a gamer to ddos a gaming server. gaming is the biggest industry on the net and destiny is one of the most visible parts of it. anyone doing it for glory and luls will target something like that. epsecially since our industry has a tendency to report on it far more than, say, banking sector.

CrimsonBlack:
They have lives, believe it or not?

I'll choose to believe they have no lives. Tools.

they have died too many times and their lives are now 0?
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SonOfVoorhees:
DDoS hackers are like children that wipe their shit all over the wall and then look to you for a complement.

they do it for attention, not complement.

Waaghpowa:
Calling someone a hacker for using a DDos script is like calling me a mechanic because I know how to add washer fluid to my car.

more like calling you a mechanic because you know how to turn on your engine. DDoSing is as easy as googling LOIC, entering IP adress and pressing a button. now, please, dont use LOIC as its easily traceable and youll end up in jail (DDoSing is a criminal offence in most countries), but it is possible to DDoS as easily as that.

Raziel:

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

As one of those people kicked from Destiny I can assure you I didn't miss out on any fun. I've played the game more than 10 hrs.

And soon the fun shall be found, likely around the 12th or 15th hour. Maybe. Gotta keep the treasure hunt going.

Strazdas:

erttheking:
That the Hell is wrong with gamers nowadays? DDoS attack there, DDoS attack there. Why the fuck are we trying to stop others from having fun so much?

these people may or may not be gamers. you dont have to be a gamer to ddos a gaming server. gaming is the biggest industry on the net and destiny is one of the most visible parts of it. anyone doing it for glory and luls will target something like that. epsecially since our industry has a tendency to report on it far more than, say, banking sector.

CrimsonBlack:
They have lives, believe it or not?

I'll choose to believe they have no lives. Tools.

they have died too many times and their lives are now 0?
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SonOfVoorhees:
DDoS hackers are like children that wipe their shit all over the wall and then look to you for a complement.

they do it for attention, not complement.

Waaghpowa:
Calling someone a hacker for using a DDos script is like calling me a mechanic because I know how to add washer fluid to my car.

more like calling you a mechanic because you know how to turn on your engine. DDoSing is as easy as googling LOIC, entering IP adress and pressing a button. now, please, dont use LOIC as its easily traceable and youll end up in jail (DDoSing is a criminal offence in most countries), but it is possible to DDoS as easily as that.

Then I'll put the question to everyone.....If it's so easy to DDoS a network what can be done to prevent or inoculate a network to this?

If the local neighbourhood brats keep doing a run-by smash of your window, you would eventually set up a camera for the cops look at or put up a metal grate.

So, nothing was achieved, there was no point in the first place, and some of them were arrested. Great job, guys! You're all morons! Have fun sweating it out or doing something equally stupid to land you in the same or worse trouble.

sleeky01:

Then I'll put the question to everyone.....If it's so easy to DDoS a network what can be done to prevent or inoculate a network to this?

If the local neighbourhood brats keep doing a run-by smash of your window, you would eventually set up a camera for the cops look at or put up a metal grate.

Nothing. Thats why its so effective. there is no way to protect yourself agianst a DDoS attack other than to disconnect from the network. DDoS pretends to be normal traffic, and thus its impossible to differentiate it from normal users. as such, you can either keep responding to DDoS attack (which is why it works, your machine has to respond million times per second to the attacker saying something like "error: packet not recognized". by responding to atacker it has no juice left to repsonmd to legitimate costumers and thus the service stalls. you cant just ignore it, because that would both break the IP protocol and would not achieve anything since your service still has to process request.

There are some things you CAN do and some ways you can negate it.

First possible solution would be to have faster internet than the DDoSer. if you can route more traffic than he can spew, you will have a large load but still remain functional and thus they would not achieve the goal, evnetually get bored and quit. this of course is easy to do when its a neighboarhood kid on steam doing the DDoS and hard to do when its a horde of 1000 zombie computers doing the DDoSing. because then you have to outdo 1000 machines with 1.

another solution is you could try throttling that persons network in a similar way, but thats, just like DDoS itself, is not legal.

Of course, you should always call the police. DDoSing is illegal and if they catch the DDoSer or at least scare it away you won. sadly much police does not take it seriuosly (actually in German DDoSing is even recognized as legitimate protest).

BUt yeah, DDoS is kind a scary not because its somehow damaging but because there is nothing you can do to protect it. some big hosting companies try rerouting traffic so only the place where DDoS originated gets affected but they can afford multiple machine routing, most people dont.

imagine DDoS like if you had a store and a costumer would come in asking if you sell eggs, you say you dont, costumer leaves the store. no harm no foul right? imagine now that there are 1000 costumers coming in every minute asking same question again and again. and now you dont have time to service actual paying costumers. but you must answer the question, because you dont know if the costumer is legitimate one or one of the "Eggs" ones.

 

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