Student Writes Star Wars Math Problem, Abrams Solves It

Student Writes Star Wars Math Problem, Abrams Solves It

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One student wrote a Star Wars-themed word problem involving a kidnapped J.J. Abrams and rental fees.

Last week eighth grade student Cody Swanek wrote a word problem using elements of the Star Wars universe for an assignment in converting algebra expressions into word problems. J.J. Abrams, director for Star Wars Episode VII solved the problem and sent Swanek a personal reply.

Swanek's problem is as follows:

"J. J. Abrams is making Star Wars Episode 7. He rented three speeder bikes which was 700 imperial credits to start. He must pay 100 imperial credits to keep his speeder bikes daily. If he does not pay daily, Prince Xizor and other Black Sun members will kidnap J. J. Abrams, bring him to Mustafar, and sacrifice him.
J. J. Abrams is also paying 5 bounty hunters to keep separatist spies out. That costs 200 imperial credits to start, then 50 imperial credits for each bounty hunter every time they capture a spy. The Separatists send 2 spies every day.

In how many days does J. J. Abrams spend the same amount of imperial credits on speeders and bounty hunters?"

Abrams wrote to Swanek with the answer to the problem and then wrote a Star Wars word problem of his own.

"If I needed to hire passage to the Alderaan system at a rate of 17,000 credits a day - and had to travel 12 Parsecs at a velocity of 1500 times the speed of light, how much would this trip cost me? This, I think, is the real issue here."

Can you solve Abrams' math problem?

Source: Aggressive Comix

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Must be a refreshing change from the thousands of 'YOU ARE GOING TO KILL STAR WARS' letters he gets a day.

I believe the answer is around 5 shit tons

... Ok, I'm going to point out that it's stated that the separatists send two spies a day, and the Bounty Hunters get the 50 bonus if they CATCH two spies a day. The capture rate average isn't even defined (i.e: On average, the Bounty Hunters captures 5~7 spies a week).

Step your Variable definition game up, son. Some of us don't like ballparking it.

"One student sent wrote a Star Wars-themed word problem involving a kidnapped J.J. Abrams and rental fees."

Has anyone seen an editor, we need an editor here.

roseofbattle:

"If I needed to hire passage to the Alderaan system at a rate of 17,000 credits a day - and had to travel 12 Parsecs at a velocity of 1500 times the speed of light, how much would this trip cost me? This, I think, is the real issue here."

Regardless, Ill give the captain 2000 now, plus 15 when we reach Alderaan.

If you are travelling faster than the speed of light, you would arrive before you left.... meaning that the trip takes negative time... The captain has to pay you.

Unless the captain never boards the ship, and instead observed the time taken to travel at 9.5 days... Which is impossible, because he wouldn't know that the ship arrived until 14285.5 days later.

Fasckira:

roseofbattle:

"If I needed to hire passage to the Alderaan system at a rate of 17,000 credits a day - and had to travel 12 Parsecs at a velocity of 1500 times the speed of light, how much would this trip cost me? This, I think, is the real issue here."

Regardless, Ill give the captain 2000 now, plus 15 when we reach Alderaan.

No, no I don't think so. This is ep. 7+ we're talking about here after all. I believe that you'll be giving him 2,000 now, then all the rest of it once you're on his ship to prevent being flushed into space. Maybe you'll get to Alderaan. Maybe you'll be sold to a Hutt. Flip a coin.

P-89 Scorpion:
"One student sent wrote a Star Wars-themed word problem involving a kidnapped J.J. Abrams and rental fees."

Has anyone seen an editor, we need an editor here.

An editor? There ain't been no editors around these parts for a long time, traveller.

OT: That's nice of Abram, though I can't imagine it's too hard to work out.

1 parsec = 3.26 light years
Distance 12pc = 39.2ly
1pc can be travelled in 3.26 years at the speed of light, but at 1500X it can travel the same distance in 0.02 years... or (365x.02) 7.11 days per parsec
At 17,000 credits, the cost would be $121,997 credits per parsec x 12
$1,451,970 credits* , give or take some rounding error.

*Does not account for delays caused by Imperial blockades

The real question is not this mathematical problem, but:
Was this a hint for a location in the new Star Wars movie??? ;)

It's a trick question. Prince Xizor is no longer canon (it's cool a kid knows about Shadows of the Empire, though).

I could answer Abram's problem if I wanted to but, you know, MATH.

Besides, it appears Triaed did it for us.

The answer to Abram's question is easy,the answer is 0 credits.

Alderaan no longer exists.

Nami nom noms:
The answer to Abram's question is easy,the answer is 0 credits.

Alderaan no longer exists.

Alderaan is a planet, and if that's where they were travelling, you'd be right. However, it's a trip to the Alderaan SYSTEM, you know, the galaxy where Alderaan used to be? Even if the planet is gone, I doubt they renamed it.
Also, the initial question is unsolvable without knowing how competent the bounty hunters are.

JJ is a pretty cool guy. I wonder if he'll solve my life problems if I mail them to him.
I have faith that whatever he puts out in the new Star Wars film will be entertaining. Certainly far more entertaining than the last 3 films Lucas made. It wont, however, please any of the fans who will bawwww like mad. Movie Bob will burn effigies of Abrams for not making the film exactly how he envisioned it in his dreams.

But it'll be just another popcorn movie which will be worth a watch. Nothing more.

"If I needed to hire passage to the Alderaan system at a rate of 17,000 credits a day - and had to travel 12 Parsecs at a velocity of 1500 times the speed of light, how much would this trip cost me? This, I think, is the real issue here."

12 Parsecs * 3.26 ly/parsec * 365 day/year = 14,279 light days distance.
1,500 light days per day travel speed.
14,279/1,500= 9.5 day trip.
so 10 days about for a total of 170,000 credits.

The initial question is easy as pie to solve (as opposed to pi, which is impossible to solve)

He pays 100 credits per day for rental in the speeder bikes

The bounty hunters cost either nothing (if they catch no spies) 250 credits if they catch 1 spy, or 500 if they catch 2 spies. (Note the bounty hunters are paid 50 credits each if ANY of them catch a spy, but the question asks how much is spent on them as a group.)

Thus he will never pay an equal amount on both security and speeder bikes.

Now back to hell for further studies of diabolic contracts.

I got to roughly 162010 credits. Basically, I found how many light seconds it would take to travel 12 parsecs, and divided by 1500 to get the time taken travelling at 1500c. This gave me the journey time which I then divided by 60, then by 60 again, to get the number of hours, then divided by 24 to get the number of days journey time - roughly 9.53 days. Then I just multiplied 9.53 (as the rounded figure) by 17000 credits per day to get my total.

Anyone want to argue, go for it. I'm a Maths BSc and a quantity surveyor by trade. Numbers are my business, I will wreck your shit... ;D

Just kidding on the whole 'wreck your shit' thing. We're cool, we're cool...

HaileStorm:
I believe the answer is around 5 shit tons

Is that Imperial shit tons or metric shit tons?

Gmano:
If you are travelling faster than the speed of light, you would arrive before you left.... meaning that the trip takes negative time... The captain has to pay you.

I know you're probably joking, but every sci-fi franchise with FTL travel has some sort of technical mumbo-jumbo to explain away time dilation. Star Wars just never bothered pointing it out in the movies.

Li Mu:
JJ is a pretty cool guy. I wonder if he'll solve my life problems if I mail them to him.

"Dear Mr. Abrams: I'm deathly allergic to lens flares and shaky-cam. Is there anything you can do to help?"

Tom Roberts:
The initial question is easy as pie to solve (as opposed to pi, which is impossible to solve)

He pays 100 credits per day for rental in the speeder bikes

The bounty hunters cost either nothing (if they catch no spies) 250 credits if they catch 1 spy, or 500 if they catch 2 spies. (Note the bounty hunters are paid 50 credits each if ANY of them catch a spy, but the question asks how much is spent on them as a group.)

Thus he will never pay an equal amount on both security and speeder bikes.

+1

If you write them out as equations they overlap at 1.25 days, but 1.25 isnt a valid option for paying the bounty hunters - they get paid twice per day (0.5 day intervals, on average).

Gmano:
If you are travelling faster than the speed of light, you would arrive before you left.... meaning that the trip takes negative time... The captain has to pay you.

Unless the captain never boards the ship, and instead observed the time taken to travel at 9.5 days... Which is impossible, because he wouldn't know that the ship arrived until 14285.5 days later.

Not even negative time!

The trip take imaginary time (as t = to / root(1-V^2/C^2) and root(negative) cant be done unless you make it imaginary)

Don't break the speed of light kids... its the law!

Li Mu:
But it'll be just another popcorn movie which will be worth a watch. Nothing more.

And that is exactly the problem. Everyone on this site hates on Michael Bay for making great modern-adaptations of classic cartoons that only ran for a few years, but when J.J. Abrams destroys 30 YEARS of material, WE are the problem when we are angry about it.

Spade Lead:

Li Mu:
But it'll be just another popcorn movie which will be worth a watch. Nothing more.

And that is exactly the problem. Everyone on this site hates on Michael Bay for making great modern-adaptations of classic cartoons that only ran for a few years, but when J.J. Abrams destroys 30 YEARS of material, WE are the problem when we are angry about it.

Ahhh, so you've seen the new Star Wars film already? In what way did he destroy it? Also, how did you get to see it so early?
Oh wait...are you taking unconfirmed speculation, assumptions and your own imagination and treating it as fact? Oh my. Silly rabbit.

Michael Bay isn't a good director in any conceivable way. Abrams, on the other hand, does have some skill. Sure, he has some odd addiction to lens flare, but he's nothing like Bay.

The fact is that you people will NEVER be happy with anything that is created because it will never meet your insanely high expectations.

I think it's nice when these things happen and busy people like Abrams or some actor, sportsman or whatever take time to do these "unnecessary" things like answering a letter or hanging around with fans after a day of work.
Just shows that they are also people! and pretty funny that he put that witty counterquestion in for the kid to solve :)

Captcha: This is sparta
So we're going to see someone being kicked into a sarlac pit in the 7th movie?

Triaed:
1 parsec = 3.26 light years
Distance 12pc = 39.2ly
1pc can be travelled in 3.26 years at the speed of light, but at 1500X it can travel the same distance in 0.02 years... or (365x.02) 7.11 days per parsec
At 17,000 credits, the cost would be $121,997 credits per parsec x 12
$1,451,970 credits* , give or take some rounding error.

*Does not account for delays caused by Imperial blockades

Google: 12 Parsec / (1500 x C) = 9.53 days

12 parsec =/= 39.21y nm LY not 1y XD

Man use to make these unit errors all the time.

Also kids have it so easy when you can just type the question and get the answer XD

Li Mu:

Ahhh, so you've seen the new Star Wars film already? In what way did he destroy it? Also, how did you get to see it so early?
Oh wait...are you taking unconfirmed speculation, assumptions and your own imagination and treating it as fact? Oh my. Silly rabbit.

Michael Bay isn't a good director in any conceivable way. Abrams, on the other hand, does have some skill. Sure, he has some odd addiction to lens flare, but he's nothing like Bay.

The fact is that you people will NEVER be happy with anything that is created because it will never meet your insanely high expectations.

I never implied that I had seen the new movie, you just created a straw man of that when I said that they were ruining 30 years of previous material. When Lucasfilm wiped out the EU, everything I had spent $1,000 collecting, reading, and learning about the characters and universe meant precisely NOTHING to the new movies is what I meant. Also, he is going back to Tatooine, again, which is all that I needed to hear to know that these new movies are narrowing the galaxy yet again, rather than expanding it. Rather than adding new planets and locations, nope, right back to Tatooine, again.

Also, J.J. Abrams and Michael Bay make exactly the same type of movies, only instead of explosions, J.J. uses lens flare to tell stories. The very fact that I enjoyed both of the Star Trek movies tells me everything I need to know about Abrams' ability to be faithful to the original. His Star Treks were action movies, in space. Kirk was a generic hero type who got in fist fights, drank too much, and had sex with a lot of different women. He was James Bond without the suave sophistication, and much less cool clothes and guns.

That is what we fans are afraid he is going to do to the new movies, but we have PROOF that he is narrowing the galaxy, and no matter how much you want be a dick about my opinion, you can't deny that the facts point to his narrowing of the galaxy, and gimmicky film making style. Special effects and digital cameras were NEVER the problem with the Prequel Trilogy, yet he acts like using film (SERIOUSLY, I haven't missed film since the first time I knew they weren't using it for a movie) and practical special effects (Whoo, back ground characters that are really there! SO IMPORTANT!) I knew that this was just going to be a cheesy Cash-in-on-our-childhoods movie, and that to get excited about this was to be a waste of my energy.

If you want to camp out for tickets, go right ahead. I won't be seeing this opening WEEK, much less opening night. Disney and Abrams have stated that they don't care about us Die-Hard fans or our money, they want "New Fans," and that is who they are catering to with these films. Why shouldn't I be allowed to see the writing on the wall for what it is, and stop being a die-hard fan based on their stated intentions to fuck me over?

Spade Lead:
////snip\\\\....Why shouldn't I be allowed to see the writing on the wall for what it is, and stop being a die-hard fan

I mean, it's great that you love SW so much. But again, the problem lies with the fact that no director could ever live up to the expectations of the die-hard fans. I've seen people claim that Joss Whedon is the only man who could have done it. Perhaps he could have. He can certainly competently juggle multiple action scenes, as proven in The Avengers. But personally, while he is good at surgically constructing the action, I found the rest of The Avengers film to be good. It was 'good' and 'enjoyable', but (IMO) not the amazing piece of cinematography people claim it to be.

So perhaps HE could have made the SW film amazing. But who else? It's a poisoned chalice. What director would be insane enough take up such a project when they are certainly going to be torn to pieces by die-hard fans because they failed to capture the subtle nuances of the Chiss language?

I'd personally like to see a non-genre director take the helm of Star Wars. Imagine Lars Von Trier directing the film!

Honestly, while you can complain and hate and dread and bemoan what has happened to the SW universe, I think you should just go into the film with an open mind and judge it for what it is. Judge it for what it is and not what it's not.

You'll hate me for saying it, but I found Jedi to be rather flawed in parts of its plot line. Jedi wasn't anything spectacular, it was just really fun. If the new film turns out to be more enjoyable than Jedi, I'll be pleased.
I just really hope you can find some enjoyment from the film.

Li Mu:
If the new film turns out to be more enjoyable than Jedi, I'll be pleased.
I just really hope you can find some enjoyment from the film.

You aren't wrong, I just see what Disney did with Rebels, and with their threats to aim it at new fans, I just don't think what I want from Star Wars, a universe that feels more like Episode 3 rather than the end of Episode 6, is going to happen. But then, those new pictures leaked today (which look amazingly authentic) just changed my mind a whole hell of a lot today.

DTWolfwood:

Triaed:
1 parsec = 3.26 light years
Distance 12pc = 39.2ly
1pc can be travelled in 3.26 years at the speed of light, but at 1500X it can travel the same distance in 0.02 years... or (365x.02) 7.11 days per parsec
At 17,000 credits, the cost would be $121,997 credits per parsec x 12
$1,451,970 credits* , give or take some rounding error.

*Does not account for delays caused by Imperial blockades

Google: 12 Parsec / (1500 x C) = 9.53 days

12 parsec =/= 39.21y nm LY not 1y XD

Man use to make these unit errors all the time.

Also kids have it so easy when you can just type the question and get the answer XD

Oh man, I was so proud of myself having resolved a question for a 13 year-old boy! :-)
So what was my error? I don't get it

Triaed:

DTWolfwood:

Triaed:
1 parsec = 3.26 light years
Distance 12pc = 39.2ly
1pc can be travelled in 3.26 years at the speed of light, but at 1500X it can travel the same distance in 0.02 years... or (365x.02) 7.11 days per parsec
At 17,000 credits, the cost would be $121,997 credits per parsec x 12
$1,451,970 credits* , give or take some rounding error.

*Does not account for delays caused by Imperial blockades

Google: 12 Parsec / (1500 x C) = 9.53 days

12 parsec =/= 39.21y nm LY not 1y XD

Man use to make these unit errors all the time.

Also kids have it so easy when you can just type the question and get the answer XD

Oh man, I was so proud of myself having resolved a question for a 13 year-old boy! :-)
So what was my error? I don't get it

Keep the units the same. Since you want to use LY as the measure of distance we'll go with that. And since we are solving for how many days as well, let get it all in one go.

What is the speed of light in LY per day?

Google: Speed of light in LY/days = 0.00273790926 LY/day
(there is a lot of unit conversion involved if you don't take the speed of light in Meters/Second, which is why it is better to keep Parsec in terms of Meters as well.)

Since we are going 1500 times faster than the speed of light
1500 x 0.00273790926 LY/day = 4.1068639 LY/day
So we know the ship can go 4.11 Ly in one day.

Then you just solve for how far 12 parsec is in LY which you did.
1 Parsec = 3.26 LY
12 parsec = 39.2 LY

LY / (LY/day) = Days

39.2 LY/ 4.11LY/day = 9.5~ days (Significant digits)
Its not as precise but will get you the same answer. So long as you keep all your units consistent when solving the problem.

Now when you are paying a bodyguard you don't pay him in Half days. So you round up to 10 days fee at 17,00 credits a day.

Edit: As a side note, If you look up what is 1500 times the Speed of Light in Parsecs/day you'll get your answer even faster.

DTWolfwood:
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Very cool! I got it
Thank you

 

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