Nolan Calls Marvel-Bashing Quote "Inaccurate" - Update

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Nolan Calls Marvel-Bashing Quote "Inaccurate" - Update

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Did the Dark Knight director take a cheap shot at the competition while promoting Interstellar?

Update: BuzzFeed News is reporting that a quote attributed to him in a Guardian profile about the Marvel Studios superhero productions not being "real films" because of their post-credits codas does not reflect his real views on the subject: "The quote is inaccurate," the Interstellar filmmaker reportedly told BuzzFeed, after clarifying that "I would never say someone else's film isn't 'a real film.'"

Elsewhere, Badass Digest (one of the many sites along with this one to run stories based on the quote) points out that the Guardian quote is actually an out of context second-hand account of Nolan's words on the matter from Zack Snyder.

Original Story: Christopher Nolan may have left the superhero movie scene behind (he's not listed as a producer of any further DC Comics properties after Man of Steel,) but it seems the onetime Batman-auteur isn't above taking a departing swipe at the distinguised competition.

In a lengthy Guardian profile building up the famously-private director's mystique in advance of his hotly-anticipated sci-fi drama Interstellar, Nolan reveals that Warner Bros had asked him if a comedy coda (read: post-credits stinger) could be added to Man of Steel. According to Nolan, his response was:

"A real movie wouldn't do that."

Ever since the original Iron Man ended with a "secret" scene wherein Nick Fury revealed the existence of a broader Marvel Universe and "The Avenger Initiative," post-credit scenes revealing new characters or just goofing around have been a staple of the Marvel Cinematic Universe; while Nolan's superhero adaptations (encompassing the Dark Knight Trilogy and the first Man of Steel) were frequently positioned as a "dark and gritty" alternative in the fandom press.

At this time, there has been no indication as to whether Nolan's particular distaste for such scenes will continue to carry over into the post-Man of Steel DC Universe films, including Zack Snyder's Dawn of Justice and Justice League features which take place directly after the Superman reboot.

Sources: BuzzFeed, The Guardian

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Well, that's certainly a snotty response.

Eh the title of this article is a bit misleading, he didn't specify Marvel Films but rather the scene/clip idea which other film companies do as well now a days, and to be honest while I like those clips I can't be against Nolan having a different opinion.

Then again I don't find comic movies as anything special (their often good movies don't get me wrong just not special) so I wouldn't care if he was targeting comic movies specifically.

I like Marvel's movies better than the ones Nolan did. I'm sorry, but his were just too dark and depressing for my tastes. Having those little stingers at the end are always something I look forward to because a lot of the times, they're the best part of the movie. Or at least the best joke.

I supposed the first Batman movie had it's own version of this when the Joker's card was revealed at the end of the movie...

Seeing as these movies are often just advertisements for each other (particularly the first Captain America and Iron Man 2), and seeing as these post-credits bumps are always just ads for future Marvel movies, I can definitely see where he's coming from.

On the other hand, his involvement in Man of Steel makes it difficult to take anything he says about superhero movies seriously.

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Didn't Batman Begins end with Commissioner Gordon finding a mysterious calling card of a new criminal? The joker from a standard deck of cards?

Covarr:
and seeing as these post-credits bumps are always just ads for future Marvel movies

Indeed, I'm still looking forward to Marvel's little known hero Shawarma Man to make his theatrical debut! :P

Bedinsis:
Didn't Batman Begins end with Commissioner Gordon finding a mysterious calling card of a new criminal? The joker from a standard deck of cards?

End of the movie though, not end of credits, plus that actually happened in Batman: Year One

OT: Yeah get over yourself Nolan, just because you made some crime movies that you decided to call Batman, two of which were a bit shakey at best, and a shaky Superman movie, I don't think you can really decide what constitues a "real" movie.

Sniper Team 4:
I like Marvel's movies better than the ones Nolan did. I'm sorry, but his were just too dark and depressing for my tastes. Having those little stingers at the end are always something I look forward to because a lot of the times, they're the best part of the movie. Or at least the best joke.

I supposed the first Batman movie had it's own version of this when the Joker's card was revealed at the end of the movie...

Ugh, tell me about, I like dark and gritty, but Noalns movies are so dark and depressing even the sodding Joker can't crack a joke.

I feel like you're extrapolating a lot here. But any excuse to go after a guy who's films you don't like, right?

I find it weird how so many people want to discredit something by not saying it real. Why can't you just say Ï don't like this"instead of Ï don't like this so its not a 'real' thing".

Seems pointless and factually incorrect.

Hey Nolan, "Why so serious?"

The doesn't bode well for the DC 'true movies'.

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OH SNAP!
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
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Yeah, lets not take this over proportion please

I dig the hell out of Nolan's films to the point of bordering on fanboy territory. But man, that was really a childish thing to say.

Some books have teasers for the next entry in their series at the end, does that make them not real books?

He didn't mean that in the literal sense. You have to understand that some of these directors can be really eccentric. Nolan has his own ideas about what shouldn't go in a movie. Tarantino is the same way. I think he just meant that post-credit scenes are dumb. And I tend to agree.

I think Bettridge's law of headlines applies to this one.

If someone asks me when I'm cooking dinner to make spaghetti carbonara with cream and I say 'Real spaghetti carbonara is not made with cream', that is not in any way equivalent to making a public statement that takes a swipe at anyone who does make it with cream.

Adam Jensen:
He didn't mean that in the literal sense. You have to understand that some of these directors can be really eccentric. Nolan has his own ideas about what shouldn't go in a movie. Tarantino is the same way. I think he just meant that post-credit scenes are dumb.

This exactly. I can't wrap my head around why MovieBob would make this a story... except that he is now in the clickbait* business.

*I mean the bad type, if you were going to link me to this No Right Discussion.

To that, I would tell Nolan that a Batman movie wouldn't involve Batman quitting being Batman under any circumstance. I don't see Batman taking the time out to draw his insignia on a wall in lighter-fluid when he could be using that same time to save the city. Otherwise, his opinion is his own and I don't really care.

No, no he didn't; the producers the article mentioned said Marvel. Nolan just said that post-credits scenes like that are stupid. And he's right

Why would he care if anyone stays through the end of the credits? His name is first. Speaking for myself and a lot of friends in the industry, I know these scenes as well as their many variations (blooper reels over the credits in a comedy movie etc.) started as a clever bonus for fans willing to sit through the credits. Nobody actually reads them, obviously, we all know that, but for the people that pour themselves into these films, on some levels as much as some of the more visible players, it's a huge sign of respect when people sit through the few seconds their name is on screen, even if its for superficial reasons.

Personal crusades aside, I think Nolan's opinion is fairly narrow minded and worded in a way that it was definitely supposed to sting someone. He could have just said that he doesn't like stingers, or that he doesn't feel like it would fit well in the movies he's trying to make. That's fine, that's an artistic decision I can respect, but he specifically chose to phrase it in a way that would hurt someone. Maybe Marvel, maybe not, but you don't just tell a story like that, in the way he did (assuming the reporting is totally accurate), without wanting someone to feel the hurt of your words. Kinda childish if you ask me.

Marvel movies are just a manufactured product. The McDouble of the movie industry.

This is a silly headline. Are you trying to get a rise out of Marvel fans?
I like both styles of superhero movie so it makes no difference. Any member of the creative industry has specific tastes and ideas. Surely this is some stirring of the fanboy shit pot, and i think we all know who has to lick the spoon this time...

Aiddon:
No, no he didn't; the producers the article mentioned said Marvel. Nolan just said that post-credits scenes like that are stupid. And he's right

Why? It doesn't take away from a movie it can be important for fun or just a reward for sticking around which people do after credits anyway.

You know what's also stupid? Tints. Why who cares doesn't need an answer.

That sentence isn't true but that's what the opinion of PCS being "stupid" amounts to. Some of the best movies have those scenes and to speak in such a general term for a director of his caliber is insulting.

I shcaky cam is stupid too but it can be used to great effect, same with this.

ticklefist:
Marvel movies are just a manufactured product. The McDouble of the movie industry.

Well yeah, every movie is a manufactured product.
I don't see too many naturally occurring motion pictures. (though that'd be some surreal shit if they did)

Even so, Marvel's recent films are still far more palpable than the half-digested pigshit that was Man of Steel and Green Lantern. Good God, I can't believe I let myself get roped into watching that garbage.

ticklefist:
Marvel movies are just a manufactured product. The McDouble of the movie industry.

With that logic MOS is the is Fine Dinnig with toddlers, a pretentious mess.

You know what this article title is missing? Something like a lot of "?????!!!!!!1111!!!". That would bait even more people to rage about DC movies and Nolan. Ugh.

Lethos:
I feel like you're extrapolating a lot here. But any excuse to go after a guy who's films you don't like, right?

Of course he is. He has some personal vendetta against Nolan and isn't above using needlessly misleading headlines to get a rise out of Marvel fans.

If there's one thing the "clique" of this forum loves to hate just as much as #GamerGate, Steam, Call of Duty, and DC Movies, it's Christopher Nolan.

Nolan was asked about post-credit stingers; notably in the context of stingers designed to be ads for out-of-series films. And in that context, I partly agree with him. He probably could have worded his comment a bit better, but I understand what he was trying to say.

He by no means said Marvel's current crop of films aren't real films.

This is just low, Bob. You're better than this.

Covarr:
Seeing as these movies are often just advertisements for each other (particularly the first Captain America and Iron Man 2), and seeing as these post-credits bumps are always just ads for future Marvel movies, I can definitely see where he's coming from.

We're getting another Howard the Duck movie? Oh, for the love of-

Atmos Duality:

ticklefist:
Marvel movies are just a manufactured product. The McDouble of the movie industry.

Well yeah, every movie is a manufactured product.
I don't see too many naturally occurring motion pictures. (though that'd be some surreal shit if they did)

Even so, Marvel's recent films are still far more palpable than the half-digested pigshit that was Man of Steel and Green Lantern. Good God, I can't believe I let myself get roped into watching that garbage.

V4Viewtiful:

ticklefist:
Marvel movies are just a manufactured product. The McDouble of the movie industry.

With that logic MOS is the is Fine Dinnig with toddlers, a pretentious mess.

Yeah I'm not really nuts about the DC movies either. I just think it's funny how we stopped caring that our dumb summer action movies were still in fact dumb summer action movies the moment they began featuring the cartoon characters of our youth.

No. No, he fucking didn't, and you know he didn't.

Stop posting POS clickbait bullshit.

Vigormortis:

He by no means said Marvel's current crop of films aren't real films.

\but the statement was general enough to hit the Marvel films with no actual explanation. It's to broad a statement to make of a film technique mostly used by (in a certain way) his competitors. And even if it wasn't maybe some other director should tell Nolan that films that uses filters like blue, orange and grey aren't films? It amounts to the same thing.

I admit maybe Bob's stretching things a bit but it's still an odd thing for Nolan to say, in fact I'd go as far as to say it was rather arrogant.

Real movies, for one, put their title cards before the movie, not after.
Why the hell does his opinion really matter? It's been obvious for years that Nolan, while not a bad filmmaker (I enjoyed Inception quite a lot) can't make a comic book movie even if his life depended on it. The fact that he had Goyer write scripts for his Batman movies and Man of Steel only serves to support this.

By "real movie" I assume he means "movie I have any interest in making."

Being that the last Batman movie was shit, you wonder why he has the balls to insult other hero movies? Personally i wonder if he is trying to distant himself from them to look like he is a "proper serious" director.

It'd be nice if they stopped trying so hard to make a wheel square and just leave the damn fiction mostly intact instead of trying to inflict their bad fan fiction on us all....

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