Assassin's Creed: Victory Leaked, Releasing Fall 2015

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So...there are now four teams that have worked on this franchise I would imagine.

The core team that did the first Asscreed all the way to Asscreed: Brohood before they split into two teams.

Then one of those originals did Asscreed 3, while a completely new team did Asscreed 4: Black Flag

Then the other half of the original team did Asscreed: Unity, which they butchered and now they've got a another new team to make this latest installment.

I would be.....optimistic for this new one, seeing as it's a new team that might want to do something new with the formula but honestly, I would prefer the guys who made Asscreed 4.

Vault101:
ok Assasins creed here's the deal

I'll pick up where I left off and play ALL of the games...ALL of them if you give me a full honest to god release of a game where I can play as a female assassin

K?

cool

There is one, kinda. It is a sidescrolling AC with a Chinese female character set in (duh) China. Sounds great doesnt it? Now only if they actually paid attention to it instead of making it some kind of throw away downloadable game.

tf2godz:

Aerosteam:
Get the fuck out. Europe... again?

The only two places this series have been in so far are Europe and North America. Ubisoft, you do know there are five other different continents, Right?

Well they can't put it in Australia. The Local fauna would kill the protagonist long before the templars could.

Krantos:

tf2godz:

Aerosteam:
Get the fuck out. Europe... again?

The only two places this series have been in so far are Europe and North America. Ubisoft, you do know there are five other different continents, Right?

Well they can't put it in Australia. The Local fauna would kill the protagonist long before the templars could.

Actually, Botany Bay does sound like the sort of thing the Templars would come up with. And it would be a breeding ground for Assassin recruits, since "screw the authorities" would be a fairly common sentiment in a penal colony.

ok, so all the negative feedback for unity wasnt a lesson learned. 3 patches and i still keep reading about problems. so they already work on the next title. looks like AC4 is really the last AC title for me. and at times im still considering getting unity in hope i might be one of the lucky once who will not have any problems.

I don't get the shock and outrage. We all already knew that Ubisoft has multiple ACs in the pipe at all times, worked on by different teams.

Im up for a Victorian Assassins Creed, but good god Ubisoft next year? Unity was a broken beyond playability because you had to rush it out the door. It could have been a good game if you gave it time and effort and didn't lie through you teeth about why you it didn't run properly.

Give a rest for a year or two, make a real effort and for god sake learn how to optimize your games. I have a brand new PC that I spent good money on and it still struggled to play watch dogs

Vault101:
ok Assasins creed here's the deal

I'll pick up where I left off and play ALL of the games...ALL of them if you give me a full honest to god release of a game where I can play as a female assassin

K?

cool

But but but, it's too expensive and too hard to animate female characters.
Edit: That's moi impersonating an idiotic Ubisoft employee.

Vault101:

as much as I like the premise and appreciate the fact it exists...its not a coincidence that the only titles to feature women are spin-offs

so no, it doesn't

But this totally proves nobody wants to play as a woman. Why else would it not have sold with limited promotion on a portable virtually nobody owned?

FalloutJack:
Yes, this was 'leaked'. It's totally not a distraction, desperately tryng to draw attention from the stigma of Unity. Heh.

I would imagine this would have the opposite effect, really. With the "cancellation" of the season pass and whatnot, it looks like they're dropping this one to get on with the next one, which I don't imagine sits well with consumers who just bought this one full price.

VincentX3:

Not only did they release a bug filled, almost non playable alpha of a game with Unity (Seriously, when you have a GTX970 and the framerate can dip into single digits, your game has a problem) From this statement alone, not only did they not dedicate enough time and resources to make this game optimized but they have an entirely different team working on another assassins creed game without FINISHING THE FIRST ONE.

Ubisoft has had a multi-team, multi-year policy for a while. Unity started work around the time Brotherhood was released, I think. That's one of the things that makes this crap so unacceptable. However, it doesn't automatically mean the next game will suffer the same fate because of the same process.

Haerthan:

But but but, it's too expensive and too hard to animate female characters.
Edit: That's moi impersonating an idiotic Ubisoft employee.

Apparently, EVERYONE is too hard to animate.

Roboshi:

That said, an Egyption, Indian or another middle eastern setting wouldn't go amiss.

StormShaun:

When they make a Assassins Creed with a Japanese setting, then one of my ears will hear them ... barely.

I'm kind of surprised about the way that Ubi have linked, or rather apparently failed to link the last few Assassin's Creed games together. Since ACII,Bros and Rev followed a single character through his life and covered Florence+Venice / Rome and then Constantinople they formed a pretty solid trilogy.

So when ACIII was announced as taking place in the American Revolution with a new hero I assumed that they'd have a new trilogy. The obvious format that sprung to mind was.

1) Start in the American Revolution with an origins story. (Character in their twenties in 1775)
2) For the second game pop over to Paris with for the French Revolution (Character now in their thirties in 1789)
3) Third game covers the Napoleonic wars with London, Vienna and parts of Spain and Russia playable plus reused Paris (Characters now in fifties in 1812)

I was thus quite surprised that the game following ACIII was an apparently unrelated piratey jaunt, and that they have now done the French Revolution with yet another new character. I haven't played any of the recent ones so I don't know to what extent the stories are related, but I get the impression, not very.

So having failed miserably with predicting all that lot, I'll make more suggestions about how Ubisoft could structure another trilogy based on the Victorian setting.

1) Victorian London, not sure what the story is here. Great though a recreation of London would be, the Victorian era was surely fairly stable politically? The Luddites and Peterloo Massacres (which was in Manchester in any case) happened before Vicky took the throne. You have events like the Great Exhibition, the controversies over Darwin publishing the Origin of Species, the beginnings of Marxism and as others have said Jack the Ripper, but no real dramatic event to build a narrative around. Or am I missing something big here?
2) Hero travels to China. There's the First Opium War 1839-42 and then the Second one in 1856-62. The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom 1851-1864 and then Empress Cixi becoming the Empress Dowager in 1861 in a coup
3) Story set in India around Indian Mutiny/Great Rebellion in 1857.
4) In 1854 Commodore Perry sails into Tokyo and forces the Japanese to open their country to trade. In the next decade you have the civil war that leads to the Meiji restoration and the eventual end of the samurai way of life.

Unfortunately the dates don't quite work with the hero having to be in several places at once, but there is surely a chance to build a unified story out of the various conflicts between West and East during this period (I'm imagining the hero as being British but the British Empire/Army/East India Company being mainly composed of Templars).

We all knew that another Assassin's Creed game was in the works, and I have always wanted an AC game to be set in Victorian London, but for the love of god, give the series some breathing room. After AC:Unity (which is still broken), the series just needs a break so that they can get the games in a state worthy of releasing them. Unity has potential, but the game is covered in so many problems that it makes it hard for me to want to play it.

Hopefully they actually fix the game before releasing the next one this time (looking at you AC3).

Krantos:

tf2godz:

Aerosteam:
Get the fuck out. Europe... again?

The only two places this series have been in so far are Europe and North America. Ubisoft, you do know there are five other different continents, Right?

Well they can't put it in Australia. The Local fauna would kill the protagonist long before the templars could.

Nah, I reckon an AC: Australia edition could work. Jump across the four or five buildings clustered in one place, then run fifty miles through the fucking desert to get to the next location.

And instead of a hidden blade, the player can just hit X to glass the target.

Great, another one is found out before Unity is even finished.

Well, maybe after this whole no face glitch issue they'll ensure that Victory is a little more polished.
However, I wouldn't mind seeing the queen of England without a face on my Canadian coins

FalloutJack:
Yes, this was 'leaked'. It's totally not a distraction, desperately tryng to draw attention from the stigma of Unity. Heh.

I think it was sincerely leaked. I think they can't be so stupid to believe people already got over the bad press of Unity...
After all, the stigma of Unity is still too fresh. They even cancelled their future plans for DLC.
Even those that might be interested in Victorian London are still too sore because of the slugfest that was the previous game. No one is "yeah, more assassins creed", but "after the last one, forget it", which it the exact opposite direction that they would get from a distraction.

AidoZonkey:
Im up for a Victorian Assassins Creed, but good god Ubisoft next year? Unity was a broken beyond playability because you had to rush it out the door. It could have been a good game if you gave it time and effort and didn't lie through you teeth about why you it didn't run properly.

Give a rest for a year or two, make a real effort and for god sake learn how to optimize your games. I have a brand new PC that I spent good money on and it still struggled to play watch dogs

good to see im not the only one who has problems with watch dogs. got a brand new GPU that can handle the game but i set everything to low and the game was still freezing on me with some stuttering. surprisingly when i set everything to ultra, it ran fine besides the mentioned freezing. the game it self was fun but these problems are just beyond frustration.

search_rip:
"You know, why waste time giving you DLC for a failed product like Assassin's Creed: Unity if whe can use it later and sell it as a new game" sincerily Ubisoft :P

That's exactly how I would want Ubisoft to respond. If the product doesn't work as intended, doesn't reach the full audience, then no, don't bother with DLC for it. DLC is a curse on games anyway.

So...instead of falling through the floor because of a glitch while screaming "Ah mon dieu!", we'll be falling through the floors while screaming "Cor Blimey!"?

I have been something of a vociferous supporter of this setting - nice and grim, nice tall chimney's to jump off and stab people in the face, trains, social change, haves and have nots, so I am cautiously optimistic. Especially as AC games seem to follow the "Star Trek Film" quality control system - avoid odd numbered ones.

That said, I'm not going to pre-order it. I'm not stupid. I'm not even going to buy Unity until the blighters fix it.

Incidentally, is it just me whose noticed that the stupid naming/numbering system may be intentional? After IV, we had Unity ("U" being rendered as "V" in Roman script - i.e. 5), then Victoria (VI - 6). That said, there aren't exactly many words that start "Vii" so they'll bugger themselves up at the seventh one...

Micah Weil:
So...instead of falling through the floor because of a glitch while screaming "Ah mon dieu!", we'll be falling through the floors while screaming "Cor Blimey!"?

Best thing I've read so far.

OT: Yea, I'd actually be really pumped for this, but next year? Take your damn time. If they give it a break, then it might actually be somewhat nice. With Bioshock Infinite they actually took their time and it turned out pretty damn good.

Zachary Amaranth:

Haerthan:

But but but, it's too expensive and too hard to animate female characters.
Edit: That's moi impersonating an idiotic Ubisoft employee.

Apparently, EVERYONE is too hard to animate.

Oh yea. Everyone is too hard to animate, it is too hard to optimize their games. Only in the gaming industry can a company like Ubisoft survive.

Haerthan:

Oh yea. Everyone is too hard to animate, it is too hard to optimize their games. Only in the gaming industry can a company like Ubisoft survive.

I don't know about that. Ever looked at the automotive industry? And when they can't make something work, people can die.

Vault101:
ok Assasins creed here's the deal

I'll pick up where I left off and play ALL of the games...ALL of them if you give me a full honest to god release of a game where I can play as a female assassin

K?

cool

You'd slog through all the bugs, all the spinning NPCs and falling through floors just for that alone?

OT: Get bums on seats in the QA derpartment, stop pooping out boring, clunky and homogenized games so often and just work on improving what you have, Ubisoft. Someone at that company needs to be really anal about releasing games in working order posterior to proper QA testing. No butts.

StormShaun:
Yeah, no.
As we can see, this franchise is going down faster than a roller coastrer. Heck, I don't know how Ubisoft can do this better than the Call of Duty franchise. From the facts though, many people are noticing that far less people are buying these games, and pointing out the controversial issues.

Where the hell are the old Ubisoft, from when they did Assassins Creed 2?!
Well, they're probably dead in the cellar of the new regiment.

*sighs*

I'm ... I'm just done with Ubisoft at this point.
When they make a Assassins Creed with a Japanese setting, then one of my ears will hear them ... barely.

I wanna see one in China, preferably voiced by someone who doesn't speak English as their first language in a US accent. DAmn this "iconic franchise" approach. Where's the art?

hermes200:

FalloutJack:
Yes, this was 'leaked'. It's totally not a distraction, desperately tryng to draw attention from the stigma of Unity. Heh.

I think it was sincerely leaked. I think they can't be so stupid to believe people already got over the bad press of Unity...
After all, the stigma of Unity is still too fresh. They even cancelled their future plans for DLC.
Even those that might be interested in Victorian London are still too sore because of the slugfest that was the previous game. No one is "yeah, more assassins creed", but "after the last one, forget it", which it the exact opposite direction that they would get from a distraction.

Ubisoft said they would rework their review emargo policy after all the backlash from Unity.

Less than a week later, they announced they would not be sending out review copies of The Crew before launch

"They can't be so stupid," is a statement no longer worthy of being said about Ubisoft.

Fulbert:

Hairless Mammoth:
So have any of the bugs been leaked yet? Or are we going to have to sit in suspense until after the review embargoes are over next year?

tf2godz:
The only two places this series have been in so far are Europe and North America. Ubisoft, you do know there are five other different continents, Right?

I'd love to see them make an AC set in Antarctica.

The parkour in that one might be a tad boring. I mean, even more boring than it is now.

Beacause running around wooden huts in Africa would be so much better :D

Hmm Asia could be fun as they would have to make the bamboo free run engine for the obligatory bamboo forrest boss fight.

Zachary Amaranth:

Haerthan:

Oh yea. Everyone is too hard to animate, it is too hard to optimize their games. Only in the gaming industry can a company like Ubisoft survive.

I don't know about that. Ever looked at the automotive industry? And when they can't make something work, people can die.

Yea, fair enough, but in the automotive industry the government bails those bastards out. So the American automotive industry isn't in that good shape. At least there is some FORM of regulation there, although not anymore since they moved the factories to either Mexico, China or other places were the labour is so cheap that the costs of shipping is offset by cost of labour.

Oh dear. I do believe Assassin's Creed is going after Call of Duty's record.

Aerosteam:
Get the fuck out. Europe... again?

Sniper Team 4:
Oh dear. I do believe Assassin's Creed is going after Call of Duty's record.

YEEES and I predict they will make 3 games on WWI and 5 games on WWII alone.

To quote Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. You're going the wrong way, Ubisoft!!! Go East you fools, not further west! I'm tired of Assassin's Creed games in Europe and America. Head to China or Japan you bakas! This game sounds just as boring as Unity.

YOU wa SHOCK? I am most shocked so many people are shocked.
This is perfectly normal for a company as vast as Ubisoft, and I got no problem with it (though I'm not an avid player of AC games are they aren't good enough for me to get them all).

Zachary Amaranth:

I would imagine this would have the opposite effect, really. With the "cancellation" of the season pass and whatnot, it looks like they're dropping this one to get on with the next one, which I don't imagine sits well with consumers who just bought this one full price.

hermes200:
I think it was sincerely leaked. I think they can't be so stupid to believe people already got over the bad press of Unity...
After all, the stigma of Unity is still too fresh. They even cancelled their future plans for DLC.
Even those that might be interested in Victorian London are still too sore because of the slugfest that was the previous game. No one is "yeah, more assassins creed", but "after the last one, forget it", which it the exact opposite direction that they would get from a distraction.

At this point, I don't think any level is beyond them. I refuse to be surprised if it turned out to be true. Even still, bad iidea all around.

Rozalia1:
YOU wa SHOCK?

Seriously?

tf2godz:

Aerosteam:
Get the fuck out. Europe... again?

The only two places this series have been in so far are Europe and North America. Ubisoft, you do know there are five other different continents, Right?

Yeah, but making a game set in ancient greece, babylon, egypt or skipping over to east asia requires a bunch of research that the writers probably can't be bothered with.

Or they just don't understand how awesome it would be. I can't be the only one who wanted to see the lives of the other assassins as shown in the room below the villa in AC2, can I?

Thorn14:
Isn't Unity selling really well despite its horrendous state at launch?

I wonder if the sales for this will decline because of it?

Or are AAA consumers so conditioned to just BUY BUY BUY anything with Assassin's Creed in the name that it won't matter?

Review embargos til 12 hours after release so people didn't know it was a busted pile of crap until after they bought it.

Cybylt:

Thorn14:
Isn't Unity selling really well despite its horrendous state at launch?

I wonder if the sales for this will decline because of it?

Or are AAA consumers so conditioned to just BUY BUY BUY anything with Assassin's Creed in the name that it won't matter?

Review embargos til 12 hours after release so people didn't know it was a busted pile of crap until after they bought it.

Yeah, you'd think that would tip people off that something is very wrong and that perhaps a preorder is NOT a good idea.

Then again, I've talked to people on this forum who don't think reviews mean anything either, so I guess people can and will get fooled again...and again.....and again.

Dalisclock:

Cybylt:

Thorn14:
Isn't Unity selling really well despite its horrendous state at launch?

I wonder if the sales for this will decline because of it?

Or are AAA consumers so conditioned to just BUY BUY BUY anything with Assassin's Creed in the name that it won't matter?

Review embargos til 12 hours after release so people didn't know it was a busted pile of crap until after they bought it.

Yeah, you'd think that would tip people off that something is very wrong and that perhaps a preorder is NOT a good idea.

Then again, I've talked to people on this forum who don't think reviews mean anything either, so I guess people can and will get fooled again...and again.....and again.

Ehhh... the kind of people who come to sites like this don't have a huge overlap with the general consumer public, I think. People who take it as a hobby will have their tastes pretty set and reviews won't mean much to them personally because of that. Most people take this to mean that they should have some kind of adversarial relationship with a reviewer that doesn't agree with them for some reason.

Personally, I know of a couple reviewers who have tastes that far more often than not line up with my own so if I'm iffy about something I'll take their word for quality/enjoyment. I think many people would be really happy doing the same instead of getting all bent out of shape about the ones who don't.

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