"Intentional" Gas Leak Injures Furry Convention Attendees

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I won't even pretend to be surprised. In the dregs of the Internet, you've got these little cliques who just love to tell each other how awful furries are, with terms like "dogfuckers" and "faggots", how they're so much less than human and deserve to be made to suffer just for their fandom. Wasn't it really just a matter of time before some mental reprobate internalized all that garbage and actually went out to make it happen?

Now, Im not a fan of furries, infact to be honest they kinda creep me out sometimes but despite all that Chlorine Gas is a very excruciatingly painful and long death I wouldn't wish upon anyone except Nazis and Orks

Edit: Im honestly surprised this didn't happen sooner given all the stigma and hate they have to deal with regularly.

False Messiah:

I wonder why this isn't bigger news, it's awefully close to terrorism but none of the major news outlets mentio anything.

Same reason attacks on gay clubs and "pagan" groups used to not get much coverage most of the time. Because nobody cares (or nobody is perceived to care) when someone deemed undesirable is harmed.

templar1138a:

Can you imagine how Fox "News" would report on this? Those assholes make me want to vomit enough as it is.

I'm not even sure I want to imagine.

The Lunatic:

And... It's actually.. Well, it's not bad, actually.

Because it's a 90 second news byte and a piece that's mostly AP writing.

Atmos Duality:
Well that's a historic event: The first genuine act of attempted "fursectution" ever.

Probably a poor time to say that.

RicoADF:

This is literally terrorism with chemical weapons, those responsible should be hunted down and charged accordingly.

Even assuming it's an attack, that doesn't make it "literally" terrorism. That's not to say it makes an attack right, but at this point my assumption would be closer to "hate crime." Still not a good thing, still in no way right.

Holy shit, this is messed up. Thank god that no one was harmed by this, but seriously, all of these hate crimes are just too much.

Zachary Amaranth:

RicoADF:

This is literally terrorism with chemical weapons, those responsible should be hunted down and charged accordingly.

Even assuming it's an attack, that doesn't make it "literally" terrorism. That's not to say it makes an attack right, but at this point my assumption would be closer to "hate crime." Still not a good thing, still in no way right.

Hate crime wouldn't apply unless you somehow tied furries under sexual orientation. I mean, I can see HOW you could do it, but whether anyone would actually give enough fucks about furries to do so is entirely another matter.

On topic!

Yeah, this shit is garbage. No one was severely hurt, but someone could have died from this. Its barely possible that this wasn't a directed attack at furries, but I'm more willing to believe that than any of the other alternatives. Its sick, wrong, and scummy that someone would hate someone like that.

Hell, its not even like furries stand for anythin as a group. We're not campaignin for anythin, we're not shoutin at anyone, we're just hangin out in our corner of the internet and sometimes hoppin over into conventions that bring the cities they're in a ton of business. Yet that seems bad enough that people literally want to kill us? What the fuck yo.

Daaaaaaaamn, someone went to A LOT of effort to hurt some people who are into stuff he/she doesn't like.

Silver lining: maybe this'll remind some people that furries are people too, and don't deserve the particularly vile harassment the Internet tends to fling at them.

Whoa, the Edgelord Uprising of 2014 finally kicked in?

In all seriousness: gassing a furry con, of all things is just sad.

First thing I thought was "lol, furries", then I read "gas leak." I feel terrible now.

This is ridiculous if it was intentional, extremely unfortunate if not. I understand furries are the "in-thing" to hate right now, but terrorism is not the right way, or even a slightly productive way to deal with that. Hope the fuckwit gets some justice if it is intentional and the attendees recover quickly.

shintakie10:

Hate crime wouldn't apply unless you somehow tied furries under sexual orientation. I mean, I can see HOW you could do it, but whether anyone would actually give enough fucks about furries to do so is entirely another matter.

Unless I'm trying them in court or saying they should be tried in court, a hate crime applies, as it applies to people being targeted for their membership of a social group. Since I'm not a lawyer and have been warned in the past against trying people on the streets, I think I'm on safe ground. Keep in mind that the term "hate crime" was used to describe attacks on homosexuals before sexual orientation was added to the list of legally recognised groups and it's still used to describe attacks on trans individuals despite the lack of legal recognition in the states of gender identity as a protected group. Also, this varies on a state level, so I don't know what applies in any given state.

Simply put, they appear to have been targeted for who/what they are. I don't care if you consider furries a sexuality, gender identity, race, religion, or disability, the term as is used applies. Terrorism usually comes down to the intent of terror for some end. This may or may not apply, but it seems less likely. It seems like someone just wanted to kill some furries.

MPerce:
Daaaaaaaamn, someone went to A LOT of effort to hurt some people who are into stuff he/she doesn't like.

It's kind of a shock to think that they went from "fire alarms pulled" to "chemical attack." From dick move to attempted murder. It's like something you'd see in a TV show where you have that one guy (I call him Farva) who doesn't just go too far, he goes waaaaay too far. Except it's real.

Vigormortis:

That said, neither CNN nor MSNBC have reported on the incident yet.

Actually, they did. Or well.... tried to...

As for on-topic, I consider myself part of the fandom and glad to see that everyone was alright. Most of what I'd say here is pretty much a repeat of what people have said here before.

Vigormortis:
That said, neither CNN nor MSNBC have reported on the incident yet.

MSNBC have now. Albeit a little less professionally than Fox.

OT: Glad to see that people are alright. No one should face this kind of treatment.

Chessrook44:
Actually, they did. Or well.... tried to...

Your video embed's borked.[1] See here for how to do it and other things.

[1] I presume it is the same video I'm linking.

Zombie_Fish:

Vigormortis:
That said, neither CNN nor MSNBC have reported on the incident yet.

MSNBC have now. Albeit a little less professionally than Fox.

OT: Glad to see that people are alright. No one should face this kind of treatment.

Chessrook44:
Actually, they did. Or well.... tried to...

Your video embed's borked.[1] See here for how to do it and other things.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/07/us/illinois-furry-convention-evacuation/
CNN has a report aswell
There is a rather jarring half truth in it but, it's at least done strait.

[1] I presume it is the same video I'm linking.

This strikes me as very.... peculiar. Im not reffering to furries here although yeah that too. What i mean is, chlorine gas, and the worst that happened is some people felt nauseous? If it was really a chemical attack people would feel their lungs burn from the inside out and suffocate while desperately gasping for oxygen.

Something not quite right about this story, least thats what my gut tells me. But maybe the psychopath is just real incompetent as well, in that case crucify them for attempted mass murder.

Reasonable Atheist:
This strikes me as very.... peculiar. Im not reffering to furries here although yeah that too. What i mean is, chlorine gas, and the worst that happened is some people felt nauseous? If it was really a chemical attack people would feel their lungs burn from the inside out and suffocate while desperately gasping for oxygen.

Something not quite right about this story, least thats what my gut tells me. But maybe the psychopath is just real incompetent as well, in that case crucify them for attempted mass murder.

Hazmat teams found the source of the chlorine in a stairwell on the ninth floor of the Hyatt Regency O'Hare.

They left it in a stairwell, probably a decent distance away from the convention it's self. The attacker maybe didn't want to actually kill anyone and probably meant it as a joke all in all, however it's a very sick and dangerous joke that could've gotten someone killed (in a very slow and painful way) had they ventured into that particular stairwell and did make several people sick even from a distance.

Eclipse Dragon:

Reasonable Atheist:
This strikes me as very.... peculiar. Im not reffering to furries here although yeah that too. What i mean is, chlorine gas, and the worst that happened is some people felt nauseous? If it was really a chemical attack people would feel their lungs burn from the inside out and suffocate while desperately gasping for oxygen.

Something not quite right about this story, least thats what my gut tells me. But maybe the psychopath is just real incompetent as well, in that case crucify them for attempted mass murder.

Hazmat teams found the source of the chlorine in a stairwell on the ninth floor of the Hyatt Regency O'Hare.

They left it in a stairwell, probably a decent distance away from the convention it's self. The attacker probably didn't want to actually kill anyone and probably meant it as a joke all in all, however it's a very sick and dangerous joke that could've gotten someone killed (in a very slow and painful way) had they ventured into that particular stairwell and did make several people sick even from a distance.

I never met anyone who thought chemical weapons were funny, I cannot imagine a mustard gas joke. Well shit maybe I can lets try it. "How do you spice up your sandwich in 1915 Belgium? (intentionally poor taste joke was in too poor taste even for me, deleted punch line in edit)" ..... just does not work

Reasonable Atheist:
I never met anyone who thought chemical weapons were funny, I cannot imagine a mustard gas joke. Well shit maybe I can lets try it. "How do you spice up your sandwich in 1915 Belgium? (intentionally poor taste joke was in too poor taste even for me, deleted punch line in edit)" ..... just does not work.

That's because you're mature and level-headed. In today's day and age, tons of idiots with zero maturity would look at this thread and chortle without having the decency of going "God, I'm so horrible for laughing", like most people have in this thread. Don't forget: smack-cams are a thing, now, where two decades or so ago they would've been really stupid attempts at humor you send to Bob Saget in VHS format.

I don't have too much trouble imagining a moron with about two seconds' worth of research on the effects of chlorine under his belt prepping up his little scare because "lulz, furries, man". I have even less trouble imagining some foaming bigot doing the exact same thing because he perceives that subculture as being unnatural.

Chessrook44:

Actually, they did. Or well.... tried to...

Zombie_Fish:
MSNBC have now.

Oh, I had assumed they would eventually. But at the time of writing my post, they hadn't reported on the story on either of their respective sites.

Ryan Hughes:
Before you decide to post a joke or laugh at this:

Chlorine gas enters the lungs via the victim's airway. On contact with water, the chlorine forms hydrochloric acid, HCl. Victims feel excruciating pain as acid is generated inside their lungs, throat, and mouth. The chemical reaction is also exothermic, and can burn victims to cause additional tissue damage.

Think for a minute about this before you decide to laugh or make fun of these people.

You should see the comments sections of the YouTube videos covering this. They are 90% anti-furry bile with a suspicious number of up-votes.

So have they decided upon whether this was attempted meth production (and thus a really bad accident) or have they settled on it being domestic terrorism yet?

Jesus fucking christ. This is terrifying. And the thing is that recently during a feminist meetup in sweden they had hired a movie parlor to show this movie which had abortion as a central theme. In the middle of it someone kicks up the door, tosses in a smoke grenade screaming "this is a bomb!". This is the hatred that breeds these days, people are actually TARGETED like this and I don't give a shit if it's a "joke" or not (like SWATting!), this needs to be stopped. I don't know how, but somehow we have to put a stop to these things.

thaluikhain:

major_chaos:
chemical weapons are not EVER a valid response to fandoms you don't like.

...

I agree with you, but it just struck me that this is something that actually needs to be said.

Leonardo Huizar:
Thats attempted murder times 19, plus a literal terrorist act. This idiot is going to jail the moment hes stupid enough to brag about it online. Because you know those idiots tend to do so just to talk how bad ass they are for picking on a culture they think is beneath themselves.

To join the chorus: Thankfully no one was seriously hurt.

This kind of hate is atrocious no matter who its directed at, there is no justifying it.

Sort of a minor bright side, though; to me the whole thing smacks of amateur hate-crime, I get the feeling whoever is responsible will be slipping up and getting caught. All I can ask is that nobody take this to a revenge level. Let the law do what it's meant to do and let the jerk(s) involved serve their time. The last thing the community needs is to drag this out, because if someone attacks the perp personally, there's bound to be a risk of backlash and an even worse strike against the Furry community.

Oh shit, I hope The Dropout Dragon is all right!

Furries being the butt of internet jokes from silly uninformed people is common enough but this? Hope they catch the fucker.

Reasonable Atheist:

I never met anyone who thought chemical weapons were funny, I cannot imagine a mustard gas joke. Well shit maybe I can lets try it. "How do you spice up your sandwich in 1915 Belgium? (intentionally poor taste joke was in too poor taste even for me, deleted punch line in edit)" ..... just does not work

People are idiots, and don't understand how dangerous chemicals are? I see enough of that kind of stuff in different contexts where people think safety equipment is 'ridiculous'.

Also you'd be surprised how many people think 'mustard gas' sounds like something akin to fart gas...

I would just like to say thank you Escapists for the positive response to this. Its rather unusual for me to see support for my favorite fandom online, and it means a lot that even those who don't get the whole furry thing are showing their support and best wishes.

Props to you Escapists!

Zombie_Fish:
Your video embed's borked.[1] See here for how to do it and other things.

Fixed it. Turned out I had linked the wrong one anyway. I could never figure out the YouTube embeds...

[1] I presume it is the same video I'm linking.

This is really, really sad. I'd be a little disappointed in humanity, but my empathy is boring me.

But seriously, this is going to make a hilarious headline when the police investigate it further.

Zachary Amaranth:

Even assuming it's an attack, that doesn't make it "literally" terrorism. That's not to say it makes an attack right, but at this point my assumption would be closer to "hate crime." Still not a good thing, still in no way right.

To quote the UK's Terrorism Act 2000:


Out of the 3 point's I've bolded the one I'm thinking of here, although all 3 are applicable since it's an act intended to scare the section of the population (furries) into hiding/not displaying their err, hobby? That said we're going into semantics, I was referring to the general view of terrorism, that being someone using violence or threats of violence to scare people (usually with the intention of changing them against their will in some form or another). I agree hate crime is also correct.

"This group of people does something different to what I do.

Gas them."

I dont understand this logic. Glad that nobody was hurt.

Laggyteabag:
"This group of people does something different to what I do.

Gas them."

I dont understand this logic. Glad that nobody was hurt.

People WERE hurt though. 19 were hospitalized.

Micalas:
While some probably were, the majority of them weren't having Caligula-esque blood orgies in their hotel rooms while a guy in a wolf suit windmills his penis for the delight of the crowd.

Okay, that has to be the greatest description of a furry convention I've ever read.

VanQ:
That's just plain nasty. I don't get furries but I don't wish any harm on them. .

Don't worry, this is furry in a nutshell: People who like art and writing or write and draw centered around the theme of just humanistic intelligent animal characters.

Lots of them just happen to be horndogs but when it boils down to it, it's just what I told you, it's like all the bioware fans are all bioware romance sex crazed lunatics, that's not what bioware is, but its what many do who associate with being a bioware fan.

on a on topic note, I hope everyones fine o.o

Vigormortis:

Chessrook44:

Actually, they did. Or well.... tried to...

Zombie_Fish:
MSNBC have now.

Oh, I had assumed they would eventually. But at the time of writing my post, they hadn't reported on the story on either of their respective sites.

Want the fun part? :ook up how other smaller sites are coverin that steaming pile of crap.

Instead of noticing how utterly fucked up it is that she found a segment about 19 people being hospitalized was so funny she had to leave the set, they're commenting on how utterly hilarious it is that she broke down laughing on camera.

Lots of people labeling it as "Priceless" "Hilarious" "Must watch"

In fact, the only article I've found so far about just how fucked up that segment was ended up being this one.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273282/speedreads-on-monday-morning-joes-mika-brzezinski-learned-what-a-furry-is-on-live-tv

Disgusting is all I can think of.

edit - Found another one! This one is far less nice about how unprofessional the morning joe segment was.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273282/speedreads-on-monday-morning-joes-mika-brzezinski-learned-what-a-furry-is-on-live-tv

roseofbattle:
19 people complained of nausea and dizziness and were then transported to local hospitals.

Im more willing to believe those were caused by the panic of evacuation more than the gass themselves since they are consistent with chlorine gas symptoms. If it was actual chlorine gas related injury the reported problem would be pain. a lot of it. so i am assuming noone got hurt, so theres at least that.

shintakie10:

Want the fun part? :ook up how other smaller sites are coverin that steaming pile of crap.

Instead of noticing how utterly fucked up it is that she found a segment about 19 people being hospitalized was so funny she had to leave the set, they're commenting on how utterly hilarious it is that she broke down laughing on camera.

Lots of people labeling it as "Priceless" "Hilarious" "Must watch"

In fact, the only article I've found so far about just how fucked up that segment was ended up being this one.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273282/speedreads-on-monday-morning-joes-mika-brzezinski-learned-what-a-furry-is-on-live-tv

Disgusting is all I can think of.

edit - Found another one! This one is far less nice about how unprofessional the morning joe segment was.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273282/speedreads-on-monday-morning-joes-mika-brzezinski-learned-what-a-furry-is-on-live-tv

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Fuck's sake...like I needed ANOTHER reason to be misanthropic today...

The hell's wrong with people? Had this been a different convention these people would be screaming for someone's head on a pike. There'd be constant claims of "terrorism" across all news-media channels and endless interviews with the attendees, their families, and anyone and everyone with a word to say on the matter.

But no. The people involved were dem creepo furry freaks. So naturally the proper response is to lose your shit laughing on national television..

Excuse me. I need a drink. The stiffer, the better.

False Messiah:
I wonder if someone/somegroup will claim this as an attack. Furries have been the butt of many jokes and hate on the internet for years now so it's not that hard to think that someone did it intentional.

I wonder why this isn't bigger news, it's awefully close to terrorism but none of the major news outlets mentio anything.

The same reason you barely hear about attacks in middle eastern countries.

The Western news doesnt consider it to be terrorism unless they approve of the group targeted. Its only news if the news corps think you matter in the first place.

And on point:

Trying to hurt people isnt okay.

RicoADF:
-snip-

Now prove that the Midwest moved to the UK and that you know in any way the attack was intended to intimidate rather than simply to kill.

Then we might have something.

The only thing we know is who was targeted. We do not know why, unless you have some insight you can offer the police. Last I knew, nobody was caught, and no group has been considered.

Jeez, some people are really fucked in the head. Keep the stupid internet arguments on the internet. To attempt to commit mass murder because you don't like that people enjoy dressing up or identify a certain way is just about as psychotic as you can get.

Shame too, because it'll be hard to catch the perp. I imagine catching someone who started a gas leak presumably hours ago is going to be tough as hell to catch, but hey, hopefully it will at least keep the police occupied enough to to avoid killing any unarmed citizens like they seem to like doing so much lately.

My heart goes out to those in the hospital and their families. Hope they catch the sick fuck. The courts will tear his ass to shreds for it and they'd likely never see the light of day again.

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