Nintendo Confirms Work is Underway on New Consoles

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SonOfVoorhees:
Cant mean that. Hinting at a new console or no Mario until a new console will damage sales. So im sure its something else. Though no idea what that could be.

Why would it hurt sales though. It's not like this is a surprise to anyone. Everyone knows that they only release one big Mario game per console and leave the rest up to other titles.

I'm fairly certain Microsoft and Sony are doing the same. Granted this is probably just paper and writing shit at this point.

Zachary Amaranth:

Look. I don't care which of you is right, it's still wrong. The only demographic gaming should cater to is MEEEEEEE! Is it too much to ask that gaming consider my specific and personal desires as a priority?

Hold on man, your getting too ahead of yourself here. As we have learned these past few months- only a specific group of people are allowed to be catered to personally.

Everyone else are just non gaming whiners out to ruin vidya.

Zachary Amaranth:

Sampler:
In other news, water's wet.

woah woah woah woah...You got a source on that, buddy?

Colt47:

They aren't going to die out. Sega didn't disappear with the Dreamcast, and Nintendo certainly wouldn't disappear if they suddenly got into a similar situation. That being said, the transition to software only has done Sega no favors, so I doubt that nintendo would ever truly leave the console business. They might go full mobile with consoles and no longer produce home consoles, though.

It's done them no favours because they're still running the business in the same way they ran their consoles into the ground. I doubt Nintendo would be that out of touch. I mean, I do think they're somewhat out of touch, but they've managed to market games that still make people buy them, even when their consoles are questionable. If, and I do mean if they were to drop out of hardware, I'm pretty sure they'd be fine.

Well, it largely depends on how they handle their IPs and what kind of direction they take with those IPs. For example, bringing back Metroid Prime style games for the Metroid series would likely be a good move since the game type has proven itself, where as trying to do something like Super Mario Sunshine again might not be the best idea. On the hardware end Nintendo also needs it's producers to seriously ask themselves if being one generation in hardware behind Sony and Microsoft is such a good idea. So far the only thing it has done is hurt them since other AAA developers are looking at hardware and realizing releasing on the lower end platform is problematic. If someone owns a PS4 and a Wii U and the same game is released on both consoles for the same price, it makes sense they are going to buy the PS4 version.

People have been saying the best hardware historically has not resulted in the most successful consoles, but times are changing and following such old news in light of how hardware is getting priced now can be disastrous.

Dragonbums:
Hold on man, your getting too ahead of yourself here. As we have learned these past few months- only a specific group of people are allowed to be catered to personally.

Everyone else are just non gaming whiners out to ruin vidya.

Zachary Amaranth:

Look. I don't care which of you is right, it's still wrong. The only demographic gaming should cater to is MEEEEEEE! Is it too much to ask that gaming consider my specific and personal desires as a priority?

I think the two of you have reached peak sarcasm here. Perhaps you should stay away from its source. Clearly you should know that we tabletop gamers are the TRUE GAMERS OF THE EARTH!!! :P

Colt47:

Well, it largely depends on how they handle their IPs and what kind of direction they take with those IPs. For example, bringing back Metroid Prime style games for the Metroid series would likely be a good move since the game type has proven itself, where as trying to do something like Super Mario Sunshine again might not be the best idea.

100% agreed about Metroid prime style games. Those were and are some of the top tiers of the series, and it's a shame things with Metroid seem to have been a bit quiet since Other M.

I'd contest though about Super Mario Sunshine, since, while not everyone liked the FLUDD system, the gameplay itself still felt pretty decent, and the game followed Nintendos history of trying something different. That's part of what makes them an interesting company methinks, they don't always go the easy path ^^

What he's confirming is something that everyone who cares already knows.
Even Sony is working on the PS5. Works on the next console start when the current one released, maybe a small pause. The WiiU came out 2 years ago. If they want a reasonable life cycle of 5-6 years, it's about time for them to develop that thing.

2nd, he didn't really say that the next Mario game will be on the next console. He basically said that they will keep doing what they are doing right now, releasing Mario on every console. That's basically a confirmation that they won't change.

Dragonbums:

Hold on man, your getting too ahead of yourself here. As we have learned these past few months- only a specific group of people are allowed to be catered to personally.

Everyone else are just non gaming whiners out to ruin vidya.

Yes, but I've also learned that it's everyone ELSE who is ruining vidya games for ME. Damn those social justice warriors, demanding not-mes be pandered to.

Colt47:

Well, it largely depends on how they handle their IPs and what kind of direction they take with those IPs. For example, bringing back Metroid Prime style games for the Metroid series would likely be a good move since the game type has proven itself, where as trying to do something like Super Mario Sunshine again might not be the best idea. On the hardware end Nintendo also needs it's producers to seriously ask themselves if being one generation in hardware behind Sony and Microsoft is such a good idea. So far the only thing it has done is hurt them since other AAA developers are looking at hardware and realizing releasing on the lower end platform is problematic. If someone owns a PS4 and a Wii U and the same game is released on both consoles for the same price, it makes sense they are going to buy the PS4 version.

People have been saying the best hardware historically has not resulted in the most successful consoles, but times are changing and following such old news in light of how hardware is getting priced now can be disastrous.

But with Sega, they handled their properties the same way before and after they went out of the console business. We have no reason to believe that Nintendo would suddenly change their approach to their games simply because they went out of the hardware business. Their games might actually benefit from the transition. The biggest problem with Sega is that they kept trying to reinvent the turd. Nintendo's made the same quality of games (with, admittedly, some exceptions) whether their hardware's been good (in our estimation) or bad.

The hardware thing is true--somewhat. Sort of. There's a lot of factors, and cost is one of them. By standard logic, Microsoft should have been strong out of the gate--the middle child is often the best seller--except they didn't.

Why? Because one of the biggest deciding factors tends to actually be price. And even that's not set in stone, as the Wii U has demonstrated (in the short run, anyway). Microsoft's got a weaker console that cost more at launch, and when they dropped the price, they managed to get a temporary boost out of it. If the price stays at 350, then the console might actually pull ahead in the long run. Remember, this is what happened with the more expensive PS3. By the end of the console generation, the PS3 was second place and 360 was in dead last, even if only my slight margins. Once the rices become competitive, all bets are off.

I think the tablet is a large factor in putting off the average user, and I don't really care if that's particularly founded, because I'm just going on public perception. People don't go for the best hardware or even the facts. People go on what they've heard and what they think. If people think the tablet is necessary, it might as well be. If people think it's bulky and pointless, it might as well be. If people think there are no games on a console (any console, as it's been claimed for all three current genners), then there might as well be no games in reality.

It's the Liberty Valance effect--when the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

Or to borrow another line:

"The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

xaszatm:

I think the two of you have reached peak sarcasm here. Perhaps you should stay away from its source. Clearly you should know that we tabletop gamers are the TRUE GAMERS OF THE EARTH!!! :P

Pffft. This isn't peak sarcasm. I can go harder, and even achieve multiple sarcasm.

Kenbo Slice:

Remus:
I couldn't "Meh" harder. Nintendo doing its own thing as per usual, and in the process will likely further limit their audience to the 5 and 50+yr old circuit

Their audience isn't limited. Your mind is. They make games for everybody.

No, it's actually really limited. The only company making any notable games for Wii U is Nintendo, so the only people who are interested in its library are people who like Nintendo's games more than anyone else's or people who like Nintendo games and already own another system to satisfy their 3rd-party needs.

The PS4's and XBOne's libraries can appeal to people who like 3-rd parties more than their 1st-parties, people who like both equally and people who like their 1st-party more than 3rd-party.

Colt47:

ZZoMBiE13:
Oh what glorious times await us as the Wii-Thrii comes closer and closer to release.

The ever present "IS NINTENDO DEAD?" articles the first year, the inevitable "NINTENDO IS BOUNCING BACK!" articles after they get some games out and folks start buying the machine, and the usual arguments over tech versus design and how third parties just don't support Nintendo anymore. How eager I am to relive all of this again and again and again.

This must be what it feels like to be Link.

They aren't going to die out. Sega didn't disappear with the Dreamcast, and Nintendo certainly wouldn't disappear if they suddenly got into a similar situation. That being said, the transition to software only has done Sega no favors, so I doubt that nintendo would ever truly leave the console business. They might go full mobile with consoles and no longer produce home consoles, though.

He's not saying that about Nintendo. He's basically saying that he is sick of the SAME DAMN CYCLE THAT HAPPENS EVERY GENERATION. Because it is like clockwork; people try to downplay any successes Nintendo has and jump on any troubles they encounter, milking far past their expiration date, and then are SHOCKED when Nintendo is not only still around but are successful and have evolved. It is STUNNING at how people are surprised by this. You'd think by now they would just cut out the middle man and say "it's Nintendo, no matter what happens, they're the only constant in the industry." But apparently being that intelligent is far too much for people to attain thus the tiresome cycle

You know, the comments sections for those Nintendo news section pieces always look the same. Oh man, sure is popular to hate the everliving crap out of Nintendo. Yet they did pretty well this year, and have great stuff in the pipeline for next year. Nintendo will be just fine.

I question where consoles could possibly go from here? How exactly is Nintendo going to improve on the Wii-U? I suppose there's slightly more room to grow than with the Xbone with the PS4, but not much. Maybe they should devote 100% of their effort into supporting the Wii-U and trying to inject new life into the Mario franchise, because as much as I love it, the formula has gotten a bit stale. I mean I love the platforming, don't change that too much, but can we have Mario and Co. do something other than rescuing things? Mario 3D World was a step in the right direction with Bowser kidnapping something other than Peach for once, but he was still kidnapping something. I'm not even sure what he was hoping to gain by kidnapping those fairies. I've said before that an opprotunity was missed with the Mario Galaxy games to show Mario as a much more selfless hero than he otherwise is when only rescuing Princesses.

CrystalShadow:

RatGouf:
I got myself all excited for a new Nintendo console.... Then instantly lost interest when the Wii U touch screen was mentioned....

If only Nintendo would learn from their mistake with Wii U & Microsoft's mistake with Window's 8. That being that most people DON'T want touch screens with their non portable devices.

The only reason I can imagine (right now) that Nintendo is making a new console is because Wii U is now 3rd in Global sales and they hope to release a new console before Wii U is 2nd in Japan sales.

Meh. They're probably doing no such thing. This is just a typical console life-cycle. To release a new system every 5 years or so requires starting design work on the new system almost as soon as you have to old one out the door. (if not before, even.)

Zachary Amaranth:

RatGouf:

The only reason I can imagine (right now) that Nintendo is making a new console is because Wii U is now 3rd in Global sales and they hope to release a new console before Wii U is 2nd in Japan sales.

As Crystal said, the more reasonable explanation is that they're working on a new console because that's what you do. I'd be surprised if Microsoft and Sony weren't working on new consoles, too. Like, literally the only people who should be shocked by this news are the ones who think consoles are dying.

My post wasn't intended as being shocked that Nintendo is working on a new console. Rather it was the lack of shock that Nintendo announced that they were working on a new console.

Both Sony & Microsoft were quiet about their 4th & 3rd consoles until prior to an E3 a year or so ago. So Nintendo announcing that it'll have a new console 3 years from now is kind of pointless if you've already assumed Wii U has a 5 year life cycle.

On the other hand my only assumption right now when It comes to PS5 & the 4th Xbox is that they might do 4K HD. So I wouldn't expect those consoles to be released until some time after 4K TVs became cheap.

Davroth:
You know, the comments sections for those Nintendo news section pieces always look the same. Oh man, sure is popular to hate the everliving crap out of Nintendo. Yet they did pretty well this year, and have great stuff in the pipeline for next year. Nintendo will be just fine.

Hate? I see a bunch of people that are indifferent to Nintendo and a bunch of people that are excited for a hypothetical sequel to one of their favorite Nintendo games, but no hate. Heck, you could say there's more Sony/MS hate in the thread than there is Nintendo hate.

Zachary Amaranth:

Pffft. This isn't peak sarcasm. I can go harder, and even achieve multiple sarcasm.

But you might not survive multiple sarcasm! Calm down! Think of the children!!!

RatGouf:

My post wasn't intended as being shocked that Nintendo is working on a new console. Rather it was the lack of shock that Nintendo announced that they were working on a new console.

It doesn't even really do that. It talks about potential future hardware.

Davroth:
You know, the comments sections for those Nintendo news section pieces always look the same. Oh man, sure is popular to hate the everliving crap out of Nintendo. Yet they did pretty well this year, and have great stuff in the pipeline for next year. Nintendo will be just fine.

Not sure if serious. I mean, the "hate" seems to be mostly fictional, the finance stuff is wrong (their one wuarter of gain doesn't even offset the previous quarter's loss, and relies partially on a weakening of the yen), and it mostly just seems like cheerleading. Perhaps you want Nintendo to "win," but it doesn't change reality.

canadamus_prime:
I question where consoles could possibly go from here?

Personally, I can't wait for Nintendo to pioneer smellovision with their new "Wii-poo." It'll do poorly, but in 30 years they will revisit the tech and be called innovative geniuses.

st0pnsw0p:
Hate? I see a bunch of people that are indifferent to Nintendo and a bunch of people that are excited for a hypothetical sequel to one of their favorite Nintendo games, but no hate. Heck, you could say there's more Sony/MS hate in the thread than there is Nintendo hate.

"Hate" these days seems to indicate anyone who expresses something that doesn't exactly match how I feel on the subject. As such, your slightly different response to mine might constitute "hate."

I don't know. It just comes off, so often as "how dare you address something I like with less than complete and glowing praise?" I'm probably even a hater for pointing out the facts of Nintendo's financial reports.

I just bought a WIIU, so, holiday 2016 is an acceptable time for a new console, NOT BEFORE

Zachary Amaranth:

st0pnsw0p:
Hate? I see a bunch of people that are indifferent to Nintendo and a bunch of people that are excited for a hypothetical sequel to one of their favorite Nintendo games, but no hate. Heck, you could say there's more Sony/MS hate in the thread than there is Nintendo hate.

"Hate" these days seems to indicate anyone who expresses something that doesn't exactly match how I feel on the subject. As such, your slightly different response to mine might constitute "hate."

I don't know. It just comes off, so often as "how dare you address something I like with less than complete and glowing praise?" I'm probably even a hater for pointing out the facts of Nintendo's financial reports.

That does seem to be the consensus among morons these days. I once saw a guy a couple of weeks ago on Google+ outright state that anyone who criticized Assassin's Creed (at least I think it was Assassin's Creed) was a hater. I wanted to slam me face through my desk so hard it'd have left an imprint.

They always say they're working on the next console, even immediately after releasing one.

Nintendo is working on new consoles? Well no shit Sherlock.

The R&D dept doesn't take a 1-2 year holiday right after a new console releases; R&D is an ongoing process.
It's whether or not that R&D produces something the company feels safe approving past concept and prototype that matters.

ABC Article:
AP: I know you're working on "Star Fox," but beyond that, will you continue to design games for the Wii U, or are you already thinking about new hardware?

Miyamoto: We're focused on providing a robust line-up of Wii U software for next year. It seems like we've managed to do that this year and people are very happy with what we've done on Wii U. For the time being, our focus is on the Wii U hardware, but Nintendo as a whole has groups working on ideas for new hardware systems. While we're busy working on software for the Wii U, we have production lines that are working on ideas for what the next system might be.

What a surprise! That pretty much describes what I just said.
Until we get something more concrete than the clickbait nothings presented here, don't bother get too excited.

Well, yeah. I imagine that both Sony and Microsoft are also looking at what they are going to do after this console cycle ends. You cant just sit on your hands. Making a standardised hardware platform that is meant to last for at least 5 years is long and hard work, but I cant imagine that any platform is even past the concept stage yet.

I love how Japanese execs or company directors have the art of empty speech down pat. Miyamoto's stuck to the obvious: the company cares about the Wii U and is planning ahead for its own "next-gen" console, insert fingerquotes here because Nintendo hasn't been concerned about generational parity in awhile.

That's it, though. He might as well have stated that the sky is still blue and oxygen is still breathable.

Great, Awesome,

where's my new Metriod? >.< you guys owe us a good one to make up for Other M, and not another FPS (Even though the Prime games are good, and are the only FPS I can stand playing) Something that plays like Other M, minus the retarded missile controls and retarded story.

Laggyteabag:
Well, yeah. I imagine that both Sony and Microsoft are also looking at what they are going to do after this console cycle ends. You cant just sit on your hands. Making a standardised hardware platform that is meant to last for at least 5 years is long and hard work, but I cant imagine that any platform is even past the concept stage yet.

Well, with those companies you know they wont release some new piece of hardware for at least a few years. Nintendo tends to pump new hardware out in spades to the point that Gamestop is probably a cesspool of perfectly functional Nintendo handhelds and peripheral devices. It's this fact that makes the headline to the article such a "click bait" ordeal, as some would put it. Nintendo probably needs to slow down on handheld revisions and just test and release a handheld game console that works for their audience at large. If all they released was a XL sized 3ds the world probably would be a happier place.

Kenbo Slice:

Remus:
I couldn't "Meh" harder. Nintendo doing its own thing as per usual, and in the process will likely further limit their audience to the 5 and 50+yr old circuit

Their audience isn't limited. Your mind is. They make games for everybody.

Hmm, must have just been my limited mind when Nintendo completely abandoned core gamers with the release of the Wii and instead focused on the casual market almost exclusively. Or when they came running back with their tail between their legs with the Wii U because the casual market abandoned them for tablets and smartphones. I suppose it's also just in my head that they're still not garnering much third party support and their first party games are largely rehashes of the same old stuff.

I'm so glad you set me straight. Now that I know Nintendo's problems are in my head and aren't really problems I'll rush right out and buy a Wii U post haste.

Remus:
I couldn't "Meh" harder. Nintendo doing its own thing as per usual, and in the process will likely further limit their audience to the 5 and 50+yr old circuit, alienating the vast expanse of gamers in between. Suspected system specs of the Wii-Me? (we all know that will be the name) - slightly below PS4 specs, because as we all know, better technology does not make better games. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to play Dragon Age: Inquisition, and might play Far Cry 4 soon after.

Hi ^^

33 white, male and straight, and Nintendo is the only one with games on their console That I conciser 'worth getting the console for'

I mean really... why should I waste money on a PS4 or XBone when their exclusives aren't the slightest bit note worthy and anything they have worth playing, the MAYBE, two or three titles out there I am interested in, I can get on Steam or some other such digital distributer.

Which is the problem with this generation, it's really got no reason to exist. Nothing the PS4 or XBone are doing is any better or more interesting then the last, it's just 'prettier'.

woo hoo...

Vivi22:

Kenbo Slice:

Remus:
I couldn't "Meh" harder. Nintendo doing its own thing as per usual, and in the process will likely further limit their audience to the 5 and 50+yr old circuit

Their audience isn't limited. Your mind is. They make games for everybody.

Hmm, must have just been my limited mind when Nintendo completely abandoned core gamers with the release of the Wii and instead focused on the casual market almost exclusively. Or when they came running back with their tail between their legs with the Wii U because the casual market abandoned them for tablets and smartphones. I suppose it's also just in my head that they're still not garnering much third party support and their first party games are largely rehashes of the same old stuff.

I'm so glad you set me straight. Now that I know Nintendo's problems are in my head and aren't really problems I'll rush right out and buy a Wii U post haste.

Yeah...there were so few years between Pikmin, Mario Kart, Smash, and many others. Please tell me how many Cock of Duty and Assassin's Creed games we've had in the last 5 years alone.

Every console maker starts on the next console just after releasing a new one. Everyone knows that.

Kenbo Slice:
Yeah...there were so few years between Pikmin, Mario Kart, Smash, and many others. Please tell me how many Cock of Duty and Assassin's Creed games we've had in the last 5 years alone.

By that logic, Activision doesn't rehash either because there hasn't been a new Spyro or Crash game in like 5 years. But of course, that doesn't change the fact that CoD is an annual franchise, just like Pikmin 3 coming out 9 years after 2 doesn't change the fact that there's been 8 Marios (9 if you count NSLU as a separate game) over the last 9 years.

Lunar Templar:

Remus:
I couldn't "Meh" harder. Nintendo doing its own thing as per usual, and in the process will likely further limit their audience to the 5 and 50+yr old circuit, alienating the vast expanse of gamers in between. Suspected system specs of the Wii-Me? (we all know that will be the name) - slightly below PS4 specs, because as we all know, better technology does not make better games. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to play Dragon Age: Inquisition, and might play Far Cry 4 soon after.

Hi ^^

33 white, male and straight, and Nintendo is the only one with games on their console That I conciser 'worth getting the console for'

I mean really... why should I waste money on a PS4 or XBone when their exclusives aren't the slightest bit note worthy and anything they have worth playing, the MAYBE, two or three titles out there I am interested in, I can get on Steam or some other such digital distributer.

Which is the problem with this generation, it's really got no reason to exist. Nothing the PS4 or XBone are doing is any better or more interesting then the last, it's just 'prettier'.

woo hoo...

There are a lot of people who buy consoles to play games commonly found on PC and on steam simply because that is how they prefer to play them. Plus the consoles provide services and benefits that, while doable with a PC, require significantly less work to get running.

If anything, home consoles are not directly competing with the PC as much as they are directly competing with TV set top boxes that occupy that off-hours portion of our life. This is something a lot of pro-PC people (including myself up until recently) didn't think about when talking about consoles vs PCs.

Edit: as for nintendo being the only console worth purchasing thanks to unique games, I've yet to see this notion manifest in better sales...

Colt47:

Lunar Templar:

Remus:
I couldn't "Meh" harder. Nintendo doing its own thing as per usual, and in the process will likely further limit their audience to the 5 and 50+yr old circuit, alienating the vast expanse of gamers in between. Suspected system specs of the Wii-Me? (we all know that will be the name) - slightly below PS4 specs, because as we all know, better technology does not make better games. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to play Dragon Age: Inquisition, and might play Far Cry 4 soon after.

Hi ^^

33 white, male and straight, and Nintendo is the only one with games on their console That I conciser 'worth getting the console for'

I mean really... why should I waste money on a PS4 or XBone when their exclusives aren't the slightest bit note worthy and anything they have worth playing, the MAYBE, two or three titles out there I am interested in, I can get on Steam or some other such digital distributer.

Which is the problem with this generation, it's really got no reason to exist. Nothing the PS4 or XBone are doing is any better or more interesting then the last, it's just 'prettier'.

woo hoo...

There are a lot of people who buy consoles to play games commonly found on PC and on steam simply because that is how they prefer to play them. Plus the consoles provide services and benefits that, while doable with a PC, require significantly less work to get running.

If anything, home consoles are not directly competing with the PC as much as they are directly competing with TV set top boxes that occupy that off-hours portion of our life. This is something a lot of pro-PC people (including myself up until recently) didn't think about when talking about consoles vs PCs.

Edit: as for nintendo being the only console worth purchasing thanks to unique games, I've yet to see this notion manifest in better sales...

I'm just saying, Nintendo is the only one out there with exclusive titles I find desirable enough to warant buying the console, not that I'm going to get one.

I'm on PC not because I think it's better 'mechanically', but because it's more cost effective, all the games I'm generally interested in are 3rd party and those are cross platform now, and that's where all my friends are. ;) I mean I'm still rocking a controller for games like MGR and Dark Souls, cause your playing them wrong if your not. (yeah, I said it, what.) So I'm not coming from a 'PC Fanboy' perspective, just, ya know, some one who's been in this since the Atari 2600 and after viewing the current land scape doesn't see the need for consoles with out any good exclusive titles to make them desirable.

I mean really, for me Blood Borne and Killer Instinct are it for both consoles as far as reason to buy one. and with both I have suitable alternatives, in the form of Dark Souls 1 and 2 and the greatness, the GLORIOUS SPECTACLE that are BlazBlue, Guilty Gear and Skull Girls for my fighter fix.

So yeah, I've pretty much hit the point where a console needs to prove it self worthy via it's line up. Not specs, not a myriad of features I'm never going to use, give me a reason to be excited your stupid looking box exist because of the games I can only get there, or don't waste my time.

You know, I sometimes get tired of people saying Nintendo is gonna crumble.

They're still getting huge sales on their IP, heck, even their oldest games are still being played and talked about to this very day, especially if you take their Virtual Console thing into account.

I've met people who still talk about Mario, Link, and Kirby, do you think 30 years later people will still be talking about say... Sergeant Paul Jackson from Call of Duty: Modern Warfare? The nameless protagonist from Sunset Overdrive? the Rabbids from Raving Rabbid? who who temporary took some of the spotlight away from Rayman?

I don't really think so, why? because Nintendo's characters have something that not many video game characters have; timelessness.

Nintendo has almost never had to worry about 'getting with the times' because most of their characters and settings never had to resort to pop cultural references or modern spins, Nintendo always simply did their own thing even before they took up video games, and they've been around since 1889! I don't know of many companies that lasted this long.

Even when Nintendo does occasionally 'get with the times', it's usually in response to certain advancements in technology, and even then, most of the time they're the ones that made the trends other game companies are following. Yeah, You Xbox fans remember Kinect? yeah, Microsoft made it in response to the Wii's motion controls.

Frankly, I always considered Nintendo to be a video game company equivalent of Disney, another that's been around for long time for reasons similar to that of Nintendo. And I've never heard anyone talk about Disney crumbling from what bad moves they made, so why should we say such things about Nintendo?

Heck, even if Nintendo does somehow collapse, their games have such a massive and loyal following that someone with the skill and dedication will likely take action to make more Mario or Zelda games to keep the legacy alive.

Far as I'm concerned, I'll sum up my idea of how long Nintendo will likely be around with this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0H6R7xRytk (please start at 0:06)

Misterian:
I've met people who still talk about Mario, Link, and Kirby, after being around do you think 30 years later people will still be talking about say... Sergeant Paul Jackson from Call of Duty: Modern Warfare? The nameless protagonist from Sunset Overdrive? the Rabbids from Raving Rabbid? who who temporary took some of the spotlight away from Rayman?

Did you purposefully try to find the least-memorable characters for that comparison? Because it certainly looks that way.

Sargeant Paul will only ever appear in that one game, Sunset Overdrive was far from amazing and might not get a sequel and the rabbids games were all mediocre party games for Wii. How's about some actually iconic characters, like Cloud, Master Chief or Lara Croft? Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon and Banjo? Sonic, Gordon Freeman, Pac-Man, even Duke Nukem. Most aren't as old as Mario, but still quite old and still fairly well-remembered, even the ones that haven't seen a new release in years and years.

By the time it's out, the hardware used will be subpar or obsolete.

Glaice:
By the time it's out, the hardware used will be subpar or obsolete.

All hardware is obsolete the second it's released. And that's not the point of consoles; they're not supposed to be bleeding edge, they're supposed to be EFFICIENT.

Remus:

Whatislove:

Remus:
I couldn't "Meh" harder. Nintendo doing its own thing as per usual, and in the process will likely further limit their audience to the 5 and 50+yr old circuit, alienating the vast expanse of gamers in between. Suspected system specs of the Wii-Me? (we all know that will be the name) - slightly below PS3 specs, because as we all know, better technology does not make better games. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to play Dragon Age: Inquisition, and might play Far Cry 4 soon after.

Just so your rants can be more accurate in the future.

I think you mean the next console will have "slightly below PS4* specs", since, the Wii U is more powerful than the PS3.

Also, by the current count of games on each console, I'd say that better technology doesn't even equal better performance, since the Wii U has more games running at 1080p/60fps than both the Xbone and PS4 combined :D

You could just save up and get yourself more than 1 console, it is possible to own both a Wii U and a PS4/Xbone (or all 3, plus a pc, ps3, x360, 3ds, and vita like I do!).

I could run a game at 1080p/60FPS too if I limited my poly count to 1/10th of the competition.
Fanboys are funny when they're angry, ya know that? And yes I'm calling you a fanboy if you're calling my post a rant. TBH I liked Nintendo at one point - many years ago, their "innovations" were cool and were imitated by the other companies. All the cool games were being released on their systems. What happened? They went more Disney than Disney. They self-censored to the point of irrelevance. Rather than letting other publishers come in and release games on their system, they locked them out completely, thus limiting the audience to 5 yr olds who have never been allowed near a controller at this point, or 50 yr olds who are nostalgic for the Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt combo pack. The demographic isn't shrinking. They've just moved on. So then Nintendo abandoned Moore's Law completely, refusing to reasonably upspec whenever a new console is released, further limiting the games hat can be created for that system. You may enjoy Mario, but when I look for games, I look for an experience I've not yet had, an enthralling story, visually stunning area in which to kill things, compete, explore, build on, or whatever. I've saved the princess multiple times across multiple platforms. This time, she can save her own damn self, or perhaps hire Liam Neeson.

1. You're post wasn't a "rant" but it was "jerkish" in nature
2. I'm 32 and still like classic games, retro style games, and AAA. I had as much fun with Rouge Legacy and Shovel Knight as much/or more than Ass Creed Unity or Last of Us.
3. What's wrong with wanting wholesome, family friendly content? A game doesn't have to have blood, murdering hookers, or evil protagonists that I'd rather kill than play as (GTA V) to be fun or compelling.
Yeah, some of the censorship is silly (mainly in the 80s), and they should be more open to 3rd Parties, but that's the same criticism they've had for 20 years.
4. The Wii and Wii U are only a few of the underpowered systems Nintendo has made, and probably did it for the lower middle class to afford. The GameCube was more powerful than the PS2 (which sold more). The N64 had better specs than the PS1 (which sold more) and the SNES was basically on par (or less so) than the Sega Genesis, and the SNES sold better. So it isn't all about specs and 1080p. The Wii KILLED the Xbox 360 and PS3, which people seem to forget that Nintendo won the 7th Generation and has tons of bank to try new things and make mistakes. They are more financially stable than Sony is even with the Wii U issues.
The DS and 3DS have graphics like an N64 and sell better than the Vita, which is the same price with PS2 or higher level with all the share play with PS3 and 4
5. IF you want a compelling story, Far Cry 4 is going to disappoint you

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