FCC Votes, Approves Net Neutrality Rules For Broadband

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Ncrdrg:
Actually, edits was the technical term that used in the article but in simpler terms, it means for it to be finalized to be published to the public, the 2 republicans have to submit their dissents and so far, they refuse to do so. So until they get tired of protesting by not writing their dissenting opinions, we won't see that bill. So techdirt said it could take a few weeks. I'm in agreement with you about it being against the principle of transparency to hold a vote on something the public cannot see.

I was playing on semantics to prove my point actually. Everyone was saying that the two who voted against it had to submit edits before it could be released, and that is false. The thing is a law, it was voted on and it was passed. It's not in effect yet as it hasn't been made public and the shit storm of lawsuits and injunctions haven't started yet, but it was passed. The dissenting options, however, are not edits. I am fully aware they have to submit them so everything can be released at the same time, it's the exact same thing with the Supreme Court. But the fact is people didn't take the time to become informed themselves, took what the news pieces said at face value, and were wrong. It all ties back into my distain for willful ignorance.

I'm a paradox on this; "cynically hopeful".
In practice, the best we can hope is that the new policy doesn't openly legalize abusive practices carte-blanche' (as Wheeler's policy ideals intended a year ago).

Big ISPs will obviously hate the added scrutiny, but actually proving abuse in a court of law when one side has access to infinitely more evidence (and the ability to alter it at will) will prove especially difficult for customers, methinks.

The average citizen may find better piece of mind because of this, but I've worked in the networking and ISP industry; I know better.

"Write a good law, and an even better lawyer will weasel around it."

Adam Jensen:
As long as money in politics is a thing it will never be over. That's what you need to focus on in America. Getting the money out of politics once and for all with a constitutional amendment.

Politics is about the organization and leveraging of power (or ambition); and has been since the dawn of civilization.
In the modern world, money essentially IS a form of power (the most universal), and is thus, inseparable from the political system.

Strazdas:

Baldr:

Because majority of internet traffic comes from less than 5 sources: Netflix, Google, Amazon, and Apple. Which means people who only use the internet for like email and facebook are going to be paying higher prices for internet because people are clogging the internet for 4K Netflix streaming.

Netflix does not allow high enough quality (remmeber i said quality, not resolution) streams to clog anything. majority of internet traffic is porn anyway, so netflix isnt going to destroy the infrastructure. and if netflix alone cna clog your infrastructure thats some god damn awful infrastructure. please update at least once in two decades.

There are number of sources, but your wrong:
http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/11/21/netflix-now-accounts-35-overall-us-internet-traffic/

Add in 19.75% Youtube's share and that over 50% of all US download traffic right there.

Baldr:

Strazdas:

Baldr:

Because majority of internet traffic comes from less than 5 sources: Netflix, Google, Amazon, and Apple. Which means people who only use the internet for like email and facebook are going to be paying higher prices for internet because people are clogging the internet for 4K Netflix streaming.

Netflix does not allow high enough quality (remmeber i said quality, not resolution) streams to clog anything. majority of internet traffic is porn anyway, so netflix isnt going to destroy the infrastructure. and if netflix alone cna clog your infrastructure thats some god damn awful infrastructure. please update at least once in two decades.

There are number of sources, but your wrong:
http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/11/21/netflix-now-accounts-35-overall-us-internet-traffic/

Add in 19.75% Youtube's share and that over 50% of all US download traffic right there.

the nonavailable report you link to claims 34% of US traffic whereas i was talking global. your just linking on things that do not counter what i said.

And i stand by my position that netflix does not allow high enough bitrate streams to clog any network that was properly maintained. its hardly my fault that use ISPs still use nodes built in 80s.

P.S. a quarter of traffic as ACK packets? wow netflix is bloody inefficient. bitorrent only requires around 1% extra traffic for acknowledgements. Not that it really would make any problems since upload is as fast as download from any decent ISP.

Strazdas:

Baldr:

Strazdas:

Netflix does not allow high enough quality (remmeber i said quality, not resolution) streams to clog anything. majority of internet traffic is porn anyway, so netflix isnt going to destroy the infrastructure. and if netflix alone cna clog your infrastructure thats some god damn awful infrastructure. please update at least once in two decades.

There are number of sources, but your wrong:
http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/11/21/netflix-now-accounts-35-overall-us-internet-traffic/

Add in 19.75% Youtube's share and that over 50% of all US download traffic right there.

the nonavailable report you link to claims 34% of US traffic whereas i was talking global. your just linking on things that do not counter what i said.

And i stand by my position that netflix does not allow high enough bitrate streams to clog any network that was properly maintained. its hardly my fault that use ISPs still use nodes built in 80s.

P.S. a quarter of traffic as ACK packets? wow netflix is bloody inefficient. bitorrent only requires around 1% extra traffic for acknowledgements. Not that it really would make any problems since upload is as fast as download from any decent ISP.

We are talking US laws that effect US ISPs on US infrastructure. While I can't speak for all ISPs in the US, as a former employee of Time Warner Cable, I know that the nodes in my market were updated in the last 5 years to DOCSIS 3.0 and in the process of being updated to DOCSIS 3.1. There nothing currently better than that yet in Coax standards.

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